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TSvoscar
post Dec 22 2017, 11:26 PM, updated 7y ago

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Hi all, I would like to try performance tyre on size 185/60/R15.
In dilemma now as I'm trying to maintain same aspect ratio while exploring performance tyre.
Reason is my current problematic car still under warranty, it's been through steering column, steering rack coupling replacement/fixed in this year. I don't want if (touchwood better not) steering component or suspension at fault again, SC got reason to blame it's caused by "thinner" profile tyre while I working at potholes road area. thanks.
so far i see all 185/60/R15 tyres are Eco-based, Yokohama ES32, Bridgestone Ecopia EP300, Michelin XM2. Performance tyre i mean like falken 914, kumho PS31.. don't see have this size..
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post Dec 29 2017, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 22 2017, 11:26 PM)
Hi all, I would like to try performance tyre on size 185/60/R15.
In dilemma now as I'm trying to maintain same aspect ratio while exploring performance tyre.
Reason is my current problematic car still under warranty, it's been through steering column, steering rack coupling replacement/fixed in this year. I don't want if (touchwood better not) steering component or suspension at fault again, SC got reason to blame it's caused by "thinner" profile tyre while I working at potholes road area. thanks.
so far i see all 185/60/R15 tyres are Eco-based, Yokohama ES32, Bridgestone Ecopia EP300, Michelin XM2. Performance tyre i mean like falken 914, kumho PS31.. don't see have this size..
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Hello brother, this size itself is not performance tyre, how you expect it to have good performance?!
This size is all for Comfort category. whistling.gif

If x60 is thin ah, then those x40 or x35 is razor thin liao lo... bangwall.gif

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post Dec 30 2017, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 22 2017, 11:26 PM)
Hi all, I would like to try performance tyre on size 185/60/R15.
In dilemma now as I'm trying to maintain same aspect ratio while exploring performance tyre.
Reason is my current problematic car still under warranty, it's been through steering column, steering rack coupling replacement/fixed in this year. I don't want if (touchwood better not) steering component or suspension at fault again, SC got reason to blame it's caused by "thinner" profile tyre while I working at potholes road area. thanks.
so far i see all 185/60/R15 tyres are Eco-based, Yokohama ES32, Bridgestone Ecopia EP300, Michelin XM2. Performance tyre i mean like falken 914, kumho PS31.. don't see have this size..
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As mentioned above, unfortunately no real good performance tires available at this size. The Falken 914 is NOT a performance tire, just a mediocre mid range one. Then the PS31 claims to be UHP but very questionable if true as stated in the below test by Tire Rack (some highlight quotes: "Dry performance falls short of "Ultra High," rubbery steering feel. ...not a tire for the driving enthusiast. Kumho's Ecsta PS31 fails to deliver on its Ultra High Performance Summer promise")

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDi...ay.jsp?ttid=217
TSvoscar
post Dec 31 2017, 07:17 PM

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Is Bridgestone Potenza RE080 a good gripping tyre on this size?
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post Jan 3 2018, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 31 2017, 07:17 PM)
Is Bridgestone Potenza RE080 a good gripping tyre on this size?
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Well the Potenza line up usually at least offers a decent performance for its respective class but not sure. Looks like it's the lowest model of the Potenza too with only an H speed rating so don't expect much out of it.
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post Jan 3 2018, 07:11 PM

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Potenza RE003. I am very satisfied with it
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post Jan 4 2018, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jan 3 2018, 07:11 PM)
Potenza RE003. I am very satisfied with it
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RE003 doesn't have the size that TS wants.
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post Jan 4 2018, 01:46 PM

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ok bought yokohama es32. surprisingly very soft and "Q feel" over bumpy road. but highway drive can feel the car was floating. dunno is it i used lower pressure @31 psi...
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post Jan 4 2018, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Jan 4 2018, 01:46 PM)
ok bought yokohama es32. surprisingly very soft and "Q feel" over bumpy road. but highway drive can feel the car was floating. dunno is it i used lower pressure @31 psi...
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You can try, what is your car btw?
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post Jan 4 2018, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jan 4 2018, 02:40 PM)
You can try, what is your car btw?
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Polo Sedan
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post Jan 4 2018, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Jan 4 2018, 04:56 PM)
Polo Sedan
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Hmm small car, normally 30-32psi is sufficient already but again you can always try to increase if will be more suitable. Note though that too high pressure will also reduce traction and therefore decrease stability. So besides increasing, you may also want to try reducing the pressure and see it that improves.

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post Jan 20 2018, 03:33 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Jan 4 2018, 04:56 PM)
Polo Sedan
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Use 195/55/r15 michelin pilot sport 3
TSvoscar
post Jan 20 2018, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Jan 20 2018, 03:33 AM)
Use 195/55/r15 michelin pilot sport 3
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cannot lar, reduced ground clearance will scrap the bump more. currently i'm already scraping bump from time to time.
maybe 195/60/R15 would be more suitable, increased ground clearance within 2% allowance.
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post Jan 20 2018, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Jan 20 2018, 01:02 PM)
cannot lar, reduced ground clearance will scrap the bump more. currently i'm already scraping bump from time to time.
maybe 195/60/R15 would be more suitable, increased ground clearance within 2% allowance.
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Go brothers get spring buffer and then settle lor... anyways, my friend using this spec on his polo sedan, without spring buffer. He didnt complain about any bump issue... he lives in klang someore...
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post Jan 20 2018, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Jan 20 2018, 06:04 PM)
Go brothers get spring buffer and then settle lor... anyways, my friend using this spec on his polo sedan, without spring buffer. He didnt complain about any bump issue... he lives in klang someore...
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My original polo sedan Indian made absorber kaput within 1 year, so I change outside getting polo hatchback Germany made absorber. Polo sedan using oil based absorber no scrap bump, but polo hatchback gas absorber very stiff to compress but it's scraping bump easily, although both absorber same shaft length...
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post Jan 20 2018, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Jan 20 2018, 07:41 PM)
My original polo sedan Indian made absorber kaput within 1 year, so I change outside getting polo hatchback Germany made absorber. Polo sedan using oil based absorber no scrap bump, but polo hatchback gas absorber very stiff to compress but it's scraping bump easily, although both absorber same shaft length...
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Weird, not making much sense. Dampers should not have such effect. If your car still using the same spring and the spring seats on your absorbers are also still the same height then the car height should be the same hence the ground clearance should also be the same. Absorbers also if stiffer then actually should have more resistance to compress hence the car should not go down as much.
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post Jan 21 2018, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jan 20 2018, 11:11 PM)
Weird, not making much sense. Dampers should not have such effect. If your car still using the same spring and the spring seats on your absorbers are also still the same height then the car height should be the same hence the ground clearance should also be the same. Absorbers also if stiffer then actually should have more resistance to compress hence the car should not go down as much.
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Yeah, keep wondering myself too.
I suspect it could be the gas rebound is too fast which is the comfort settings, while the previous version of oil absorber doesn't rebound by itself. Car height and ground clearance still same unchanged, but more hitting bumps easily.
Some Russian translated explanation the Indian made version 6RF improved on this aspect, but it's bad quality and doesn't lasts long.

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