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Y_vonne
post Dec 22 2017, 11:06 PM, updated 7 months ago

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What do you guys think of the Olympus M10 Mark II for a mirrorless camera?

Any better recommendations for camera around this price rm3000-4000.

Which brand is better for mirrorless?

Thanks
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post Dec 23 2017, 01:16 AM

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check that in Qoo10... they are much cheaper.. RM2600... additional 2nd 150mm lens...
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post Dec 23 2017, 01:32 AM

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i like sony a 6k series
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post Dec 23 2017, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Dec 23 2017, 01:32 AM)
i like sony a 6k series
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Sony or olympus better?
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post Dec 24 2017, 09:35 AM

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Sony punya sensor bigger
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post Dec 24 2017, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Y_vonne @ Dec 22 2017, 11:06 PM)
What do you guys think of the Olympus M10 Mark II for a mirrorless camera?

Any better recommendations for camera around this price rm3000-4000.

Which brand is better for mirrorless?

Thanks
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Sony.
Best if you actually try it out with your hand..
Y_vonne
post Dec 24 2017, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(rikimtasu @ Dec 24 2017, 11:22 AM)
Sony.
Best if you actually try it out with your hand..
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Sony Better in what sense? smile.gif
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post Dec 24 2017, 12:25 PM

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Serious question.

How would this camera or even any other mirrorless camera be better than a phone camera?

What's your use case?

I have seen many friends buy these stuff only to not use them after a few months because bulky etc
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post Dec 24 2017, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ Dec 24 2017, 12:25 PM)
Serious question.

How would this camera or even any other mirrorless camera be better than a phone camera?

What's your use case?

I have seen many friends buy these stuff only to not use them after a few months because bulky etc
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Way better, you get the real bokeh (not the artificial shitty one from phone), tonal range and detail. The headroom for cropping is also more (phone picture is hopeless with the pixel-level detail).

QUOTE(Y_vonne @ Dec 24 2017, 12:19 PM)
Sony Better in what sense? smile.gif
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Better ISO performance & dynamic range. The video option is also better with full sensor readout & S-Log.
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post Dec 24 2017, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Dec 24 2017, 03:01 PM)
Way better, you get the real bokeh (not the artificial shitty one from phone), tonal range and detail. The headroom for cropping is also more (phone picture is hopeless with the pixel-level detail).
Better ISO performance & dynamic range. The video option is also better with full sensor readout & S-Log.
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I'm asking ts.

I shoot 14 bit raw.
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post Dec 24 2017, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ Dec 24 2017, 12:25 PM)
Serious question.

How would this camera or even any other mirrorless camera be better than a phone camera?

What's your use case?

I have seen many friends buy these stuff only to not use them after a few months because bulky etc
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It would be useful if you
-shot a lot of low light photo
-have time to edit photo right after you shot it
-Not just viewing those photo on phone,but more on pc.

If you actually want to do this only then you buy a mirrorless.
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post Dec 24 2017, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Dec 24 2017, 03:01 PM)
Way better, you get the real bokeh (not the artificial shitty one from phone), tonal range and detail. The headroom for cropping is also more (phone picture is hopeless with the pixel-level detail).
Better ISO performance & dynamic range. The video option is also better with full sensor readout & S-Log.
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but still cannot reach iso 20 like negative did ///
Y_vonne
post Dec 24 2017, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ Dec 24 2017, 03:56 PM)
I'm asking ts.

I shoot 14 bit raw.
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Yep. Bokeh and details basically. Resolution.. Phone will never beat cameras no matter how good phone camera is.

Mirrorless are less bulky compared to dslr thus thinking of getting one, so can bring it out anywhere to shoot will be less troublesome smile.gif it’s an in between between a phone and a dslr haha
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post Dec 24 2017, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(Y_vonne @ Dec 24 2017, 07:23 PM)
Yep. Bokeh and details basically. Resolution.. Phone will never beat cameras no matter how good phone camera is.

Mirrorless are less bulky compared to dslr thus thinking of getting one, so can bring it out anywhere to shoot will be less troublesome smile.gif it’s an in between between a phone and a dslr haha
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If bulk is an issue, and you want that look, it is best you feel the camera in your hands.

You can try Sony a6000 - usually that is good enough for most people.

The other issue though with buying these cameras is that people put small aperture kit lens on it, resulting in less bokeh and also increasing the iso causing noise etc.

You may want to factor in the lens of your choice into that budget. Prime lenses are recommended for its size, weight and aperture.

Edit: the camera you suggested is fine too btw. I use the old 20mm 1.7 pancake.

This post has been edited by sakuraboo: Dec 24 2017, 08:13 PM
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post Dec 25 2017, 04:46 AM

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QUOTE(Y_vonne @ Dec 22 2017, 11:06 PM)
What do you guys think of the Olympus M10 Mark II for a mirrorless camera?

Any better recommendations for camera around this price rm3000-4000.

Which brand is better for mirrorless?

Thanks
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girls loves olympus because of the exterior design but the sensor is peanut. for the price, the image quality is nothing to scream about. the only micro four third sensor camera i would get is a panasonic, just because of the video.

well anyway, if you would like form and function, i suggest fujifilm xa10, xa3, xe2, xt10, x70, xe3 or xt20. the kit lens are quite good, both 16-50mm or 18-55mm.
canon eos m100 or m6 + 22mm f2.
sony is well rounded, but girls doesn't like the design. a6000 + sigma 30mm f1.4.

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post Dec 25 2017, 09:16 AM

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I jumped to E-M5 Mark II from D7000.
The size and the weight make me enjoy traveling more.
The quality is good enough for my blog and microstock photography.
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post Dec 25 2017, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(rikimtasu @ Dec 24 2017, 05:53 PM)
It would be useful if you
-shot a lot of low light photo
-have time to edit photo right after you shot it
-Not just viewing those photo on phone,but more on pc.

If you actually want to do this only then you buy a mirrorless.
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Other advantage would be the battery. I don't want my phone to be out of power during travel or carry many powerbanks.
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post Dec 26 2017, 01:31 PM

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phone tend to have more shaky shoot than camera, u may only notice it after view those photos in PC.
also, indoor lightning easily fukup phone pictures.

This post has been edited by sI Taufu: Dec 26 2017, 01:31 PM
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post Jan 3 2018, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Dec 24 2017, 05:55 PM)
but still cannot reach iso 20 like negative did ///
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Then go and get a film camera.
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post Jan 3 2018, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(bibirbieber @ Jan 3 2018, 02:11 PM)
Then go and get a film camera.
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I still have it ...
Any problem ?
what a kiasu modern mentality.. .


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