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 OTM Capital scam or not?, Opinion?

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dazesa P
post Aug 3 2019, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(mini_me @ Aug 3 2019, 02:27 AM)
Exposing the Sure Lose Investment / Scam OTM Capital / Trust- Sharing my Story

1)What is this?
I’ve made a foolish ‘investment’ - OTM Capital. OTM Trust & I’m exposing this so that others will not do the same.
https://www.otmtrust.com/
https://partner.otmcapital.com/
https://www.facebook.com/OtmCapital.Malaysia2u/

2)How much did I lose?
Input: RM 23K in Nov 2017
Output: RM 8K as of July 2018. No more successful withdrawal after that 
Loss: RM 15K + A Friend

3)What did I gain?
A slap in my pride! A hole in a pocket!

4)Why did I invest in the first place?
Greed, Foolishness
Trusting wrong person: Dr T***** is my uni mate, who introduced me to this investment.  Like all of u, I do believe that he is the mastermind / ringleader behind this.

5)What did this investment promise?
Invest RM23K = USD 5k (accd to their exchange rate).
5% return per month (ROI)
18 months lockdown period. Full return of capital by 18 months
5% withdrawal fees each time

6)How everything went wrong?
Nov 2017: Sign up with RM 23K ie USD 5K
Dec 2017- July2018: ROI as promised. No problem with withdrawal of ROI
Nov 2018: ROI given is the system. But unable to withdraw USD 1K = RM4K
Nov 2018 - Apr 2019: I asked Dr T**** several times rgd the fail withdrawal, but I wasn’t too pushy, so things were delayed
May 2019: Told to convert my ROI + Capital (~USD 6.5k) from OTM Capital to OTM Trust. Previous investment agreement/ promise became void. No alternative offered. It is compulsory to use the fund to trust units, then to trade it off, before being able to cashout.
Bought USD 6.5k worth of units at the price of USD 0.1228/ unit.
Tried reselling the unit back at same price of USD 0.1228/unit - fail
June 2019: The selling rate by the company has appreciated 0.1243/unit. Suggest by Dr T**** to resell the units at lower price USD 0.088/unit (30% loss) - Done, but fail
August 2019: Unable to sell the units even at 30% loss, was suggested by Dr T**** to resell the units at USD 0.04/unit (70% loss)- I told him bullshit!

I am ready to expose as I have nothing more to lose - so I am planning for more things.

Disclaimer: Though Dr T**** has suggested for me to get family & friend to join, I have never once done so.

The Investment & Honeymood Period
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The Troubled Water
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OTM Trust that has no value and cannot be liquefied even by cashing by 30% below the recommended price
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The team of Investment Con Artist
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Hello.. just want to add my experience with OTM. They have been around for more than 5 years that I know of.. which is unreasonably long if it is a pure scam...

I was an early investor also put in around USD10,000 (yes I know haha)

In the beginning since the company is doing well, the units was sold quite fast (see attached), but lately company doing transition and different models so even though unit price increase but the number of people buying and selling units not as much as before. So the units can still be sold but the price might not be good.

My agent recommended I sell at lower since I want to use money urgently, so I sold at a low price and it was successful!

So I think in terms of any investment, even unit trust or traditional investments, have to take risk into account. There is no fast money = low risk + high return. Maybe high return, then wait longer lor...

I think if you wait a bit longer then the units would be sold successfully tongue.gif

Anyway, just my experience la.. DON'T SHOOT ME laugh.gif laugh.gif


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dazesa P
post Aug 5 2019, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(Xithyl @ Aug 5 2019, 01:18 AM)
how come you are buying @ $0.1207 at 2018-02-23? from what we all know, this 'trust' thingy started on 1 June 2018 at a starting price of $0.1000?  hmm.gif

and you are willing to buy @ $0.1207 and sell @0.0650? hmm.gif
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Don't make me regret my decision to sell at $0.065 sweat.gif sweat.gif

But that time really needed money la haha.. I also sold off my guitar, old phone doh.gif Now I still have some units left so my agent ask me to wait first, no rush to sell.. see how lor in next few months
dazesa P
post Aug 9 2019, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(oinkoink @ Aug 8 2019, 10:37 PM)
well i do know i'm not the only one not able to sell. i just want to try luck and see if anyone able to sell the units with success before and what amount to put.
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hey bro! If I'm you I'll try to sell at 0.03 or 0.05 to try out with a few units.. Good luck! smile.gif
dazesa P
post Oct 3 2019, 11:20 AM

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Due to ur request ask everyone group and report police I did seek advise from my friend police in commercial department

Police said these kind of cases very hard actually catch and jail people one.. let’s say they cheat .. how they cheat when they cheat what ur meaning by cheat ?

Me and my partner units also sometimes can sell, sometimes cant get sell

It’s not like totally this company disappear or what .. if we instead wanna make report of course he can do report paperwork but at the end ? Police go ask ur agent go court case we have to go court too .. then u think the judge will judge ur agent what case ? Send him jail 10 year ? U can see many example in here .. what zhang jian ? wht moon space ? What jjptr ? What MPA ? What u fun ? What mbi ? Which u see them inside jail and hang till die ?

for me I think is an experience .. now everything talking evidence or prove .. I did read all their rules before we register .. there really have a rules that company can change their rules anytime .. I also headache for this issue me and my best friend money inside .. I most headache is because company still paying .. I cannot make report say they are cheating me also .. or fault my money .. I’m the one willing hand up the money to them ..

another case is Buang his medical license if can good la haha biggrin.gif .. but I thought medical license kena buang only for medical reasons no meh.. DT sure will say this one is outside his work one.. investment bukan under Medical Board .. impossible u work car engineer u invest this or become agent of this investment anything I make report police then u cannot have license to do car engineering anymore it’s not logic and doesn’t make sense ..

BUT.... don't worry.. I got a plan hehe.. everyone PM me, we start one group and take things further!! biggrin.gif smile.gif
dazesa P
post Oct 4 2019, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(jamesbond008 @ Oct 3 2019, 11:52 PM)
Wow! Seems that you indeed had many experiences in money game schemes  notworthy.gif

You and Dr. Thong should be close friends? What he will say you already can guess  rclxms.gif

Why not share your plan with everyone here instead of hiding behind the keyboard? I think most of the people here are willing to hear what you have in mind.

Or you want us to believe in some other lies your upline "Ahem...Thong" have to say?

Don't take my word too seriously, just saying  biggrin.gif  smile.gif
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haha I get it bro no worries.. everyone is on edge and no one knows what's going to happen and how to get the results we want so normally will be suspicious of one another hmm.gif

I'm just sharing my experience (yes I invested in quite a few money game, some invested early managed to get returns back, some invested late in the game, then rugi...) biggrin.gif

 

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