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TTDI residents fail to stop massive Rimba kiara pr
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TScorleone74
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Dec 15 2017, 12:27 PM, updated 9y ago
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What a surprise. http://www.starproperty.my/index.php/artic...-kiara-project/KUALA LUMPUR: Taman Tun Dr Ismail (TTDI) residents have failed to stop a proposed mixed development project at Taman Rimba Kiara. High Court (Appellate and Special Powers) judge Justice Kamaludin Md Said handed down the decision on Thursday (Dec 14), dismissing the stay order against the project sought by the 10 applicants. Justice Kamaludin said it was his opinion that there would be greater prejudice to the respondents if the court granted a stay. He added that the respondents would suffer more damage if a stay was granted, in light of the huge expenditure incurred by the fourth respondent (Memang Perkasa Sdn Bhd) with the third respondent (Yayasan Wilayah Persekutuan). Justice Kamaludin directed for RM10,000 in costs to be paid to the mayor of Kuala Lumpur, Yayasan Wilayah Persekutuan, Memang Perkasa and the Bukit Kiara Public Housing Residents Association each. The 10 applicants were the management bodies of the Trellises Apartment, the Kiara Green Townhouses, the Residence Condominium, TTDI Plaza Condominium, The Greens Condominium, the TTDI Residents Association and four TTDI residents and house owners.
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Orzie
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Dec 15 2017, 12:40 PM
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What a pity, it was a nice park... https://cilisos.my/uh-oh-dbkl-may-have-pick...an-rimba-kiara/Thought the residents would stand a chance to protect the park, but eventually money won...
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asiabrickfields
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Dec 15 2017, 12:56 PM
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Susah one la.
This post has been edited by asiabrickfields: Dec 15 2017, 01:10 PM
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sosobear
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Dec 15 2017, 03:08 PM
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election coming ma...Money from where?
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SUSNew Klang
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Dec 15 2017, 03:17 PM
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Nice location. Very fresh air. Time to consider buying.
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acbc
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Dec 15 2017, 03:19 PM
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Kunan will make sure residents won't win.
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Nikmon
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Dec 15 2017, 04:08 PM
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group A want the highway to be build as current access cant cope the traffic.
Group B want to halt the highway construction cause it mess up their living environment.
no mater who is judge or govement, their decision may not able make both parties happy.
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Celeste767
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Dec 15 2017, 04:13 PM
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New Member
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OMG😭😭😭 Taman Tun Dr Ismail (TTDI) residents were stunned today with the costs of RM40,000 ordered by the High Court here upon losing their application to temporarily halt all actions in a condominium project in Taman Rimba Kiara. http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia...2pHx5M4JxvFr.97
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SUSempatTan
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Dec 15 2017, 04:14 PM
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Wats d details ar...?
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8sg9ft
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Dec 15 2017, 04:26 PM
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I'm sure it would have been totally fine if they just were gonna build that 29-storey, 350 unit affordable apartment. But that 42-54 storey, 8 blocks of service apartment is quite crazy. Lol
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JonathanIB
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Dec 15 2017, 04:45 PM
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four TTDI residents and house owners.
So few owner only... oh my
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nexona88
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Dec 15 2017, 05:26 PM
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Too bad lost the case.. anyhow BBB the project.. good location
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DS4
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Dec 15 2017, 05:34 PM
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It was a sad day for TTDI residents It was a good day for Fat Lady.
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_dan
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Dec 15 2017, 06:00 PM
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Is this mean they will close the park entirely?
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JustNobody
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Dec 15 2017, 06:04 PM
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DBKL needs $$, the park not generating any $$ but only cost more $$ to maintain.
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nexona88
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Dec 15 2017, 06:30 PM
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everything can make $$$, they would developed.. pity, gone green area
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kamilnu
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Dec 15 2017, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE(DS4 @ Dec 15 2017, 05:34 PM) It was a sad day for TTDI residents It was a good day for Fat Lady. Fat lady sings again
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TScorleone74
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Dec 15 2017, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE(JonathanIB @ Dec 15 2017, 04:45 PM) four TTDI residents and house owners. So few owner only... oh my no lah, those are house owner. There are also about 6 condo MC, should be expense out from their respective funds. But what a waste of money.
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acougan
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Dec 15 2017, 08:28 PM
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Tmn desa is the next sure lose case then?
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oxm8
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Dec 15 2017, 08:34 PM
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Kunan is too powerful
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A.B.D.
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Dec 15 2017, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE(oxm8 @ Dec 15 2017, 08:34 PM) He don’t need any KL people to like him, current federal government won’t lose, so too bad lol
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nexona88
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Dec 15 2017, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE(acougan @ Dec 15 2017, 08:28 PM) Tmn desa is the next sure lose case then? What u expected.. Win? No way.. Its Malaysia..
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asiabrickfields
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Dec 15 2017, 10:48 PM
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If TTDI also cn lost, Taman Desa mmg no hope. So after this can aim this TTDI project liao. Not much new launch here.
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djvixx
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Dec 16 2017, 12:08 AM
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I guess nothing above one million as other than golden triangle of KL no approval for more than one million in value.
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BEANCOUNTER
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Dec 16 2017, 01:02 AM
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The tropicana rendering macam high cost flats nia....massive 6 blocks + 1 block for settlers.
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JonathanIB
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Dec 16 2017, 02:34 PM
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Lesser n lesser park in malaysia
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DS4
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Dec 16 2017, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(oxm8 @ Dec 15 2017, 08:34 PM) Kunan, Fat Lady, Desmond... Power, Politic, Money TTDI residents Rakyat biasa....
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TScorleone74
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Dec 17 2017, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 16 2017, 01:02 AM) The tropicana rendering macam high cost flats nia....massive 6 blocks + 1 block for settlers. with the massive development and furthermore if lower cost than surrounding, will affect TTDI as a nice place to stay.  lets see in future whether such development 1000-2000 units with low cost/ mid cost will also come to places like taman duta. This post has been edited by corleone74: Dec 17 2017, 03:14 PM
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A.B.D.
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Dec 17 2017, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Dec 17 2017, 03:13 PM) with the massive development and furthermore if lower cost than surrounding, will affect TTDI as a nice place to stay.  lets see in future whether such development 1000-2000 units with low cost/ mid cost will also come to places like taman duta. taman duta is where the private residence of many VVIPs are including our PM, same with bukit damansara, with respect i doubt residents in ttdi are the same level. how can dbkl force 2116 apartment units and a 6 lane highway conversion for jalan datuk sulaiman if the residents are really so high level VIP? it's a slap in the face for many owners of the bungalows and semi ds along this leafy shaded road.
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hazwan_zohdi
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Dec 17 2017, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE(JonathanIB @ Dec 16 2017, 02:34 PM) Lesser n lesser park in malaysia U wana buy here, too?
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asiabrickfields
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Dec 17 2017, 09:43 PM
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TTDI and taman desa no longer "exclusive" but still got bukit tunku, kenny hills, damansara heights, bangsar, DPC, hartamas & dutamas which is not so crowded. YET. =D
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TScorleone74
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Dec 17 2017, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE(asiabrickfields @ Dec 17 2017, 09:43 PM) TTDI and taman desa no longer "exclusive" but still got bukit tunku, kenny hills, damansara heights, bangsar, DPC, hartamas & dutamas which is not so crowded. YET. =D actually DH, bangsar and hartamas now getting crowded with new development also.
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asiabrickfields
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Dec 18 2017, 12:30 AM
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TTDI residents seek donation for legal fees https://www.edgeprop.my/content/1257338/ttd...tion-legal-feesThis post has been edited by asiabrickfields: Dec 27 2017, 06:58 PM
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adamhrdn
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Jan 5 2018, 02:58 PM
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This latest video posted by the longhouse community shows that the park will be left untouched. They're on fb now, looks like the first generation is supporting the project https://www.facebook.com/TTDILonghouse/vide...99465333641024/
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A.B.D.
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Jan 5 2018, 03:42 PM
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looks like going to be a successful project. the serviced apartments here have a nice big park at doorstep. golf club views. ttdi address. 600m from MRT. negative point is high density. should be much cheaper than nearby neighbour, the greens, RM1200 psf subsale! https://www.edgeprop.my/content/1260527/don...ominium-ttdi-kl
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AskarPerang
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Feb 7 2019, 04:16 PM
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BEANCOUNTER
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Feb 7 2019, 10:30 PM
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but the project will proceed....bcos gov got no money to pay compensation.
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DesRed
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Feb 8 2019, 12:43 AM
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Even if Ku Nan is charged in court for this fiasco, will this stop the Malton group from developing that land? I really doubt so. Looks like the repeat of the Atria Shopping Centre redevelopment saga ( link). For a moment, DBKL were bragging about seizing back 13 plots of land from certain developers where 3 aren't too happy and planned to take legal action. Now, doing the same thing against Malton is now a pipe dream at this stage and the TTDI folks seem to realise this. Will be interesting to see what the outcome will be.
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BEANCOUNTER
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Feb 8 2019, 09:58 AM
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mayor of KUL already said mah…...no way dbkl can stop a commercially legally signed contract without paying huge compensation (out of tax payers money).
but what I don't understand is that IF dbkl can prove that the reason malton get the building licence is via illegal means surely dbkl can stop the project rite?
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A.B.D.
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Feb 8 2019, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Feb 8 2019, 09:58 AM) mayor of KUL already said mah…...no way dbkl can stop a commercially legally signed contract without paying huge compensation (out of tax payers money). but what I don't understand is that IF dbkl can prove that the reason malton get the building licence is via illegal means surely dbkl can stop the project rite? whatever the background story, i bet ttdi residents will be the first to buy when this is launched
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AskarPerang
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Aug 14 2019, 12:33 AM
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DesRed
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Aug 14 2019, 01:10 AM
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I posted this at the DBKL area Projects ON HOLD, for example? thread before, but I'll repost it as below: Latest update on the now DBKL 97 plots saga (jump from 64 plots initially) MACC approves 64 of 97 DBKL land deals under scrutiny: QUOTE KUALA LUMPUR (July 1): The Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) has approved 64 Kuala Lumpur City Hall land deals under 97 transactions scrutinised by the city hall's new administration. The Kuala Lumpur City Hall is also known as Dewan Bandaraya Kuala Lumpur (DBKL).
According to news reports, the land sales were conducted by DBKL during former federal territories minister Datuk Seri Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor's tenure, for a value of around RM5.63 billion.
Federal Territories Minister Khalid Abdul Samad told the Parliament today that out of the 97 transactions, 33 deals do not "principally" require the MACC's investigation.
Khalid, who was responding to a question by Tumpat MP Datuk Che Abdullah Mat Nawi, said out of the 97 transactions, DBKL has allowed 81 deals to continue.
"However one [out of the 81] was brought to court, not by the developer but by third parties," Khalid said.
According to Khalid, 14 of the 97 deals have been cancelled via mutual agreements between DBKL and the respective developers.
He said DBKL also intends to cancel the remaining two land deals, one of which is under mediation because the developer refused the cancellation. DBKL is waiting for a response from the developer on the other deal. For the full proceedings, read the Parliament Hansard dated 1st July. Looks like this project got the clean bill of health after all, since the initial 64 land plots reported by Tan Kok Wai and Lim Lip Eng are cleared by MACC.
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AskarPerang
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Sep 16 2019, 08:44 PM
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DesRed
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Sep 17 2019, 12:01 AM
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https://www.nst.com.my/property/2019/09/518...TnN8jfl8GgeJXVsQUOTE On Nov 28 2018, the High Court decided that DBKL’s planning permission and Development Order (DO) for the high-rise residential project in Taman Rimba Kiara was proper and valid, following all procedural compliance.
This means the original DO for the 4.86ha mixed development is still valid and the developer had the legal right to have started its construction last year.
But the legal tussle is still ongoing between TTDI’s RA and authorities following their appeal against the High Court’s decision that denied its application for a judicial review of the mixed development project last year.
The Court of Appeal’s hearing is set on Sept 10. Should it uphold the High Court’s decision, this would mean that the construction of the affordable apartment block could commence anytime without further delay.
The revised DO is expected to be issued in October after the court’s decision.
According to YWP, there will be a relocation exercise, whereby trees will not be disposed of but replanted in the park.
The completion period for the one-block affordable apartment and four-block serviced apartments is three and eight years, respectively. I wonder what is the outcome of the Sept 10 case.  Either way, I will never ever support any move to cancel a project outright and end up having to pay compensation via taxpayers' monies. Money that should be put to better use for the benefit of the Rakyat.
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AskarPerang
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Jan 28 2021, 05:58 PM
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DesRed
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Jan 28 2021, 06:20 PM
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Added Malaymail's article to support the above. QUOTE » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Appeals court quashes DBKL’s approval for condo in TTDI’s Taman Rimba Kiara
KUALA LUMPUR, Jan 27 ― The Court of Appeal today quashed a development order for a proposed high rise project in Taman Rimba Kiara, allowing an appeal by the residents association of the adjoining Taman Tun Dr Ismail against a government decision.
Datuk Mary Lim, who chaired the three-judge panel, ruled that there were sufficient grounds to set aside the development order dated July 13, 2017.
She also said the residents association has locus standi to challenge the earlier government decision.
In her judgment today, Lim also stated that the court could not accept the justification given by the Kuala Lumpur Mayor (Datuk Bandar) that the development order was issued to resolve the housing issue faced by the Bukit Kiara longhouse community.
“The Datuk Bandar as well as other respondents had sought to cite the Bukit Kiara longhouses and the reason to grant the DO (development order) was in their interests and their welfare.
“With respect, we cannot see how the matter of Bukit Kiara longhouses is a planning issue. It’s a legacy or political issue which has no place in the consideration that the Datuk Bandar is required to take into account in exercising discretion per Section 22 of Act 267,” said Lim in reference to Section 22 of the Federal Territory (Planning) Act 1982 which covers development orders.
“The Development Order granted was also disproportionate to the purported resolution of the matter of the Bukit Kiara longhouses.
“This proposed development was and is, in truth and in reality, a pure business and commercial joint-venture between two entities, that is Yayasan and Memang Perkasa, as evidenced by the clear terms of the JVA ‘(joint venture agreement),” Lim further explained.
The proposed development project was part of a joint venture between Yayasan Wilayah Persekutuan and Memang Perkasa Sdn Bhd.
The Court of Appeal also concurred with the appellant’s reasoning that the development order contradicted city development plans which demarcated Taman Rimba Kiara as a public open space, green area and city park.
Lim further stated that the proposed development would permanently affect Taman Rimba Kiara’s status as public open space and was unclear about how the KL Mayor intended to address the matter.
The Court of Appeal also found there were sufficient grounds to believe, as filed by the appellant, that a conflict of interest exists in the KL Mayor’s role as the city’s planner and as a member of Yayasan Wilayah’s board of trustees.
“The chronological records of how the Development Order came to pass, how the process and circumstances of the grant of the Development Order were facilitated, the details of the JVA and the involvement of the Datuk Bandar are amongst the paramount reasons why we find further evidence of the existence of a conflict of interest in addition to the findings of procedural irregularity.
“No matter how the Datuk Bandar attempts to separate or distance itself from the JVA and also from the impugned decision and now claiming in the affidavits filed that the development was to relocate the Bukit Kiara Longhouses, it is undeniable that the terms of the JVA, looked at as a whole, all point inexorably to the existence of a conflict of interest,” she said.
The proposed development project was first introduced during Datuk Seri Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor’s tenure as the Federal Territories minister in 2016. It was carried forward into the Pakatan Harapan government, where Khalid Samad fulfilled the same role. Tan Sri Annuar Musa now holds the portfolio in the Perikatan Nasional administration.
The development, which has been mired in controversy since mid-2016, was to include high-end service apartments as well as affordable housing units for TTDI longhouse residents.
The proposed development was to consist of a 17-storey block of 204 affordable housing units meant for the Bukit Kiara longhouse community, and four blocks of 41- to 45-storey condominiums, comprising 1,082 units in total. Follow-up articles as below: 1) TTDI Residents’ Association says committed to helping longhouse occupants, after winning appeal against DBKL’s approval for Taman Rimba Kiara condo project2) After Taman Rimba Kiara residents’ court win, Segambut MP Hannah Yeoh vows to assist longhouse dwellersWon't be surprised that appeals from the DBKL side will come soon. IMO, those longhouse folks really deserve proper housing after waiting for decades, regardless of who wins this case. This post has been edited by DesRed: Jan 28 2021, 06:43 PM
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nexona88
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Jan 28 2021, 08:09 PM
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U mess the wrong people..... There's many influence people around staying... From past to current senior top government officials, businessman etc.
Anyway.. Let see how they would deal with the long house residents.... Got "cheated" by many influence people / past & present regime... False hope given over the years..
This post has been edited by nexona88: Jan 28 2021, 08:10 PM
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aspartame
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Jan 28 2021, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 28 2021, 08:09 PM) U mess the wrong people..... There's many influence people around staying... From past to current senior top government officials, businessman etc. Anyway.. Let see how they would deal with the long house residents.... Got "cheated" by many influence people / past & present regime... False hope given over the years.. Am I right in saying that those longhouse residents are going to get free housing just because they were chased out of their estate dwellings somewhere else but in the first place, they did not even own the estate dwelling place right?
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DesRed
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Jan 28 2021, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jan 28 2021, 09:33 PM) Am I right in saying that those longhouse residents are going to get free housing just because they were chased out of their estate dwellings somewhere else but in the first place, they did not even own the estate dwelling place right? The gov't already promised the longhouse folks new homes when they got evicted from the Bukit Kiara Estates in June 1982 and relocated to the current longhouse which was meant to be temporary accommodation. This was already widely reported in the mainstream media. Yet to materialise till this day. https://www.thestar.com.my/metro/metro-news...house-residentshttps://www.edgeprop.my/content/1501844/lon...nt-wait-anymorehttps://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/201...do-proj/1514851Lumping them together on the same level as squatters isn't fair as the latter group just took advantage of unoccupied land and build their dwelling there, which is clearly breaking the law. These estate folks didn't do such a thing and obeyed the gov't instruction to be relocated to those longhouses. This post has been edited by DesRed: Jan 28 2021, 11:07 PM
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AskarPerang
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Jan 29 2021, 09:31 AM
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ZackQ
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Jan 29 2021, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(DesRed @ Jan 28 2021, 11:06 PM) The gov't already promised the longhouse folks new homes when they got evicted from the Bukit Kiara Estates in June 1982 and relocated to the current longhouse which was meant to be temporary accommodation. This was already widely reported in the mainstream media. Yet to materialise till this day. https://www.thestar.com.my/metro/metro-news...house-residentshttps://www.edgeprop.my/content/1501844/lon...nt-wait-anymorehttps://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/201...do-proj/1514851Lumping them together on the same level as squatters isn't fair as the latter group just took advantage of unoccupied land and build their dwelling there, which is clearly breaking the law. These estate folks didn't do such a thing and obeyed the gov't instruction to be relocated to those longhouses. When these jokers were in power, talk differently. When they lost the power, suddenly become hero to those elites. Hypocritical at max!
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AskarPerang
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May 6 2023, 12:19 PM
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nexona88
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May 6 2023, 06:43 PM
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some political parties trying to play R&R issues... how about the long house resident?... already stay there like 40 years when the original plan is like 5 years living only third class citizen of Malaysia.... no new housing for them all... This post has been edited by nexona88: May 6 2023, 06:43 PM
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Cavatzu
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May 7 2023, 09:33 AM
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Has the mayor been sued Kow Kow or asked to step down for all his “decisions”?
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qwerty223
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May 7 2023, 10:49 AM
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40 years they are still there, enough said.
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Onetwothreeeee
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May 9 2023, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ May 7 2023, 09:33 AM) Has the mayor been sued Kow Kow or asked to step down for all his “decisions”? Long house residents where got budget to sue
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