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jamespaul
post May 1 2018, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Apr 26 2018, 01:51 PM)
The latest gen Peugeot 3008 has a lot of problems solved from previous gen. It was also long term stressed tested on Malaysian road without any major breakdown.
Besides the interior, the handling prowess is something that is lacking in any Japanese makes.

If not the Peugeot 3008 won't be getting so many major awards:
European Car of the Year 2017
CarBuyer Car of the Year 2017
DieselCar Magazine Car of the Year 2017
DieselCar Magazine Best Medium SUV 2017

And good thing the structural chassis as well as parts used here and Europe are 100% the same. There is no "downgraded" parts used here to lower cost. They only removed certain features to keep the cost below certain bracket, but everything that isn't there you can see with your eyes, not skimped from below the bonnet.

I think the since the current 308 e-thp there was a big change over from the previous Peugeot, a lot of problems related to reliability has been solved. The only thing that still needs catching up is the quality of SC under Naza.
Also recently Peugeot's main group PSA has bought over 51% of Gurun plant. They plan to stay here long term and use the plant for future CKD models. This is good news because it shows long term commitment to the market.
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Winning awards and reliability are two very separate things.

The famous Golf gearbox issues, former Car of the Year winner.
VW dieselgate cars also won World Car of the year
First gen fiat 500 (unreliable as hell), also winner of COTY

I dont think the parts are downgraded from European side, but they may not be fully homogenized here for our weather (our weather killed many Euro make cars)

In terms of looks, 3008 is definitely the best. CRV is butt ugly.

CX5 looks good, but interior space is really compact.

I hope, they increase their warranty period (7 years) and then perhaps change the people's mindset.
jamespaul
post May 2 2018, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ May 2 2018, 10:41 AM)
I don't disagree, I think their biggest weak point is still on the aircond, but the entire aircond system (cooling coil, condensor & compressor) underwent a total recall last year too. It applied to all Peugeot cars IINM, mine including which was a 2014 year car. I'm guessing the newer cars will be better, but time will tell.

It seems to be an inherent weakness in continental car, parts that are not long lasting in our severe weather. Which is why with PSA coming into Malaysia and building cars here in Gurun (for their SEA market), the chance for localisation is there, and things can only improve. Until then, it will still be a trade off, between chassis superiority/safety vs absolute reliability/resale value.

And like I said previously, all the issues and the lack of resale value will put a downer to many owners, but specifically to those owners that have the unfortunate experience of being themselves (or their loved ones) in a major accident inside a continental car, they will appreciate the fact that they've bought one, despite the problems faced. Because ultimately you can't put a value to life. And I personally know a couple of these people, that walked away from total loss cars with just scratches. When it happened, resale value and inconveniences became "cheap prices" in comparison to the gain that was reaped, which was a saved life.

And it is precisely the reason above why I will always recommend a continental car regardless of the brand to people. Their regulatory requirements means safety is inherent in their chassis design.
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Ah. I just had an interest debate with my cousin the other day.

Safety is important. Are continental car's safer? Maybe. They do feel better in terms of driving confidence and dynamics

But, my cousin mentioned that reliability must be factored in as a safety item. A car that is safe, should score well on safety, and also reliability.

A car is dangerous if it breaks down. Like, my uncle's Ford Mondeo. Was it a top rated car in terms of safety? Yes. Was it reliable? No. Gearbox issues, ignition timing, Turbo leaks and etc. So overall, it is not as safe as it can be.

Lexus is the only brand I know that is as good as the Germans in terms of "feel". I own both at the same time, so, I can give a decent feedback.

 

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