3008? Pray to God after buying it. Stupiak high pressure fuel pump or coil plugs will kaput within a year of ownership.
SUV with Turbo - comparison, crv, tucson, tiguan, 3008
SUV with Turbo - comparison, crv, tucson, tiguan, 3008
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Dec 9 2017, 10:17 PM
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3008? Pray to God after buying it. Stupiak high pressure fuel pump or coil plugs will kaput within a year of ownership.
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Dec 10 2017, 12:20 PM
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Dec 10 2017, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(bob @ Dec 10 2017, 01:15 PM) Well. I'm the current owner of the previous gen 3008. Year 2012. Since bought, already spent close to RM 15K to fix it. And it is still not done. Sell also no RV. RM 30K also people don't want it. Had to keep it and use it sparingly.French people only know how to make beautiful things but never reliable. Don't compare modern Peugeot with 1940s Peugeot. Back then, their vehicles are meant for war so it has to be reliable. Now, they gotten lazy. |
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Dec 13 2017, 08:52 AM
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QUOTE(bob @ Dec 12 2017, 10:32 AM) The smaller the engine, the turbo will need to work very hard unlike bigger turbo charged engine.As for Peugeot 3008, many complaints of turbo failing after 1-5 to 2 years but older turbo SUVs like Airtrek only need to replace the turbo after 7-8 years. |
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May 4 2018, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ May 2 2018, 09:59 AM) Nope, I own a 208 GTi, but I have 2 friends that own a 3008 2018. The EP6 has several design flaws and no stress test can reveal them immediately. Need at least several years then only show up. If u selling the car after 3-4 years then ok. Next buyer will suffer the most. My 3008 since new had several parts replaced when the car is barely 5 years old. In 12 months, it sat at the workshop for 3 months.Cars bought prior to 2015 was given additional 2 years warranty for drivetrain parts (which totals to 7 years) in an effort to win back consumer's confidence.. The newer cars are 5 years, because 2015/2016 onwards the reliability issues have been reduced significantly compared to previous (remember the huge issues with Prince engine on Peugeot cars between 2010-2014)? I can agree that reliability is a separate issue. No matter how you look at it, Continental's perceived and actual reliability is still lower than their Japanese counterparts. There is no question about it. Now why is that so, sure both camps have their own reasons. The Japanese camp will say their engineering is better, more time devoted to testing. The Continentals will say their cars are chock full of sensors, NEW technology, things that are important and some regulatory mandated, but not long term tested/refined, whereas Japanese cars (especially the ones that are super reliable), have nothing inside them to breakdown, etc etc. But what I can say specifically on the Prince platform is that because it is 12 years old, it has been improved many times over, and the Prince engine you see now is not the same it was 5 years back. The current Peugeot 308 launched in 2015/6 has much lower engine issues (let's not kid ourselves, still have, its not completely gone) compared to the prior models which was notorious. That said, after driving a Conti for a fair bit, and after seeing many accident photos of friends and others' conti car, people who got into massive accident but lived to tell the tale, there is one huge factor conti owners continue to purchase contis, and that is because of the amount of engineering that goes into chassis design. I cannot speak with absolute certainty on how Japanese chassis are being done, but it has never elicit confidence in terms of safety, at least for me. Plus, if you do take a part of typical mass produced segmet (B segmet, entry level C) and compare crash bar thickness, chassis sheet metal strength, etc, I daresay you'll end up feeling safer being inside a continental car. Unfortunately this "benefit" is something that most people won't "claim" until an accident. But sometimes when you are in an accident, it may be too late to want this benefit. Whoa relax brother, why are you so hostile? The new 3008 (based on the 1.6 THP Engine (FDTM, 3rd Gen THP Engine) was tested here in Malaysia by being stress driven for 100,000 km within 4 months time. It was actually driven non stop for 24 hours, with 3 shift of drivers. Of course they stopped every 10,000 km for service. The test was completed without any failures, leakages or sensor damage. This info was shared to me by a close friend working in Peugeot Malaysia. Perhaps you can verify it with their Marketing team. The current latest gen engine that is used has been changed iteratively many times since the original Prince that was initially launched and is now in the 3rd generation. Lot's of improvements have been made. The THP200 that I am using now only had 1 HPFP failure in the 3 + years i've used, and that HPFP was recalled and changed to an improved design just last year, also applicable for all the other THP engines. So even after 12 years they are still improving the engine. Arguable it should've been fixed from the get go, but we all know how it is difficult to have an engine work perfectly in all global conditions, especially if there are not many localised parts. While I'll steer away from recommending the Prince engine back in 2010-2015, but from 2016/2017 onwards, with all the improvements, the Prince engine has become much more reliable. 12 years of low pressure turbo experience will have to amount to something, and I'd expect the Puretech engine with is PSA's 2nd type of turbo engine to be much more reliable than it's predecessor (Prince). And because of the birthing pains I'll trust the Europeans to have more experience and knowledge building low-pressure turbo cars than the Japs, which only started mass producing low-pressure engines a decade after the Europeans started. |
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May 4 2018, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ May 4 2018, 12:16 PM) EP6 indeed had several design flaws, but many has been rectified throughout the 2nd and 3rd iteration. I'm sure there are still issues but mostly its in the auxiliary components due to skimping of materials and/or lack of ability to acclimatize well in our country's terrible heat & humidity. Mine may not be a good comparison, but it is EP6 based nonetheless. I've been using mine for 100+k km, 4 years, zero issues with turbo. Only on HPFP which has since have been improved under recall, and the diverter plastic adapter which is a notorious problem for PSA & VAG turbos (this I one major cost related issue which IMO shouldn't have happened in the first place). Mine after recall even worse. Now suffering from turbo underboost and high FC. Worse engine ever. Even BMW gave up on it. |
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May 4 2018, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ May 4 2018, 03:20 PM) That is odd, because after recalled most that I know had no issues. Do you mind telling me where did you send it to? Naza @ GlenmarieI do not know of many SC, but I have a few whom I trust to solve issues, perhaps I can recommend. In any case after recall there should not be issues, provided of course the car is maintained regularly a per manufacturer requirement. Other than the air-cond compressor (which admittedly is an issue plaguing most continental cars due to their lack of localization experience) the rest to my knowledge aren't big issues anymore. |
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