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post Dec 1 2017, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(Lyu @ Dec 1 2017, 12:40 PM)
I laffed
I wanna know actually, y kuok butthurt n left
I know dumno tried to steal his asset but what the detail
Any Google link?
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post Dec 1 2017, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(PLOUFFLE @ Dec 1 2017, 12:44 PM)
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QUOTE(Lyu @ Dec 1 2017, 12:40 PM)
I laffed
I wanna know actually, y kuok butthurt n left
I know dumno tried to steal his asset but what the detail
Any Google link?
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he didnt

basically what happened was, he was a commodity trader that slept with the government and became the sugar king.

during that period majority of his sugar deals were JV with Felda, up untill 70' where kouk realised that the local market is insufficient and expanded into singapore, which had terrific growth

later in his years after singapore got big, he expanded into china at the start of their terrific growth.

teh reason why he is rich the way he is, is of all the Malaysian tycoons, kouk is the only one that forsaw the growth in SEA in the 70s and china in the late 90's.

its a business choice if you think about it
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QUOTE(Lyu @ Dec 1 2017, 12:40 PM)
I wanna know actually, y kuok butthurt n left
I know dumno tried to steal his asset but what the detail
Any Google link?
All those are just rumors.

The real reason is just plain common sense and business.

Where you want to set up international company with lowest tax rate? Ease of doing biz and have bigger pond and market access, in the end you are still trying to run a biz and not doing charity.

Malaysia hard to do that, with all the political interferences and asking for favor etc. Also you cannot use the best people in Malaysia and people asking for bribes.

Why you want to setup a biz in Malaysia, if you are imposed with many regulation and laws to handicap you? Even Donald Trump also recognized regulations kills business and try to reduce US regulations and lower the corporate tax rate.

Malaysia, you build up wealth, then suddenly UMNO comes in and scream this and that supremacy and wants free 30% share given foc. No different then daylight robbery. Or bailout this company or that UMNO company when in financial trouble.

Look at MARA....noble idea setup to help poor Malay( a better idea is to help all poor Malaysian)...but badly mismanage and corruption by greedy politician.

1MDB, money use to by painting, launder in AMerica and everywhere....1MDB is the pinnacle and typical example of a corrupt and mismanage of wealth by UMNO.

If a party like that can manage such corrupt as 1MDB...how does a party like that can govern a country?? No matter how much wealth, all will be gone in a generation and they will think of ways to rob others again....


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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Dec 1 2017, 12:51 PM)
he didnt

basically what happened was, he was a commodity trader that slept with the government and became the sugar king.

during that period majority of his sugar deals were JV with Felda, up untill  70' where kouk realised that the local market is insufficient and expanded into singapore, which had terrific growth

later in his years after singapore got big, he expanded into china at the start of their terrific growth.

teh reason why he is rich the way he is, is of all the Malaysian tycoons, kouk is the only one that forsaw the growth in SEA in the 70s and china in the late 90's.

its a business choice if you think about it
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So he left coz of biz opportunity?
Then y he comes back with Massimo?

Actually got prawn behind the rock la
Maybe gonna buy his memoir n read
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post Dec 1 2017, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(mssv19 @ Dec 1 2017, 12:54 PM)
All those are just rumors.

The real reason is just plain common sense and business.

Where you want to set up international company with lowest tax rate? Ease of doing biz and have bigger pond and market access, in the end you are still trying to run a biz and not doing charity.

Malaysia hard to do that, with all the political interferences and asking for favor etc. Also you cannot use the best people in Malaysia and people asking for bribes.

Why you want to setup a biz in Malaysia, if you are imposed with many regulation and laws to handicap you? Even Donald Trump also recognized regulations kills business and try to reduce US regulations and lower the corporate tax rate.

Malaysia, you build up wealth, then suddenly UMNO comes in and scream this and that supremacy and wants free 30% share given foc. No different then daylight robbery. Or bailout this company or that UMNO company when in financial trouble.

Look at MARA....noble idea setup to help poor Malay( a better idea is to help all poor Malaysian)...but badly mismanage and corruption by greedy politician.

1MDB, money use to by painting, launder in AMerica and everywhere....1MDB is the pinnacle and typical example of a corrupt and mismanage of wealth by UMNO.

If a party like that can manage such corrupt as 1MDB...how does a party like that can govern a country?? No matter how much wealth, all will be gone in a generation and they will think of ways to rob others again....
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QUOTE(mssv19 @ Dec 1 2017, 12:54 PM)
All those are just rumors.

The real reason is just plain common sense and business.

Where you want to set up international company with lowest tax rate? Ease of doing biz and have bigger pond and market access, in the end you are still trying to run a biz and not doing charity.

Malaysia hard to do that, with all the political interferences and asking for favor etc. Also you cannot use the best people in Malaysia and people asking for bribes.

Why you want to setup a biz in Malaysia, if you are imposed with many regulation and laws to handicap you? Even Donald Trump also recognized regulations kills business and try to reduce US regulations and lower the corporate tax rate.

Malaysia, you build up wealth, then suddenly UMNO comes in and scream this and that supremacy and wants free 30% share given foc. No different then daylight robbery. Or bailout this company or that UMNO company when in financial trouble.

Look at MARA....noble idea setup to help poor Malay( a better idea is to help all poor Malaysian)...but badly mismanage and corruption by greedy politician.

1MDB, money use to by painting, launder in AMerica and everywhere....1MDB is the pinnacle and typical example of a corrupt and mismanage of wealth by UMNO.

If a party like that can manage such corrupt as 1MDB...how does a party like that can govern a country?? No matter how much wealth, all will be gone in a generation and they will think of ways to rob others again....
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Dumno asked 30% share for free?
Kuok got give them or not?

Wonder wat made them think they entitled for 30% shares...
So shameless
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post Dec 1 2017, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(Lyu @ Dec 1 2017, 12:59 PM)
Dumno asked 30% share for free?
Kuok got give them or not?

Wonder wat made them think they entitled for 30% shares...
So shameless
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Misc


Malaysia international shipping company
Old rm 50 have this logo also!!!!!

Now government own. Under petronas

Petroliam Nasional Berhad- CIMB Group Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn. Bhd. Exempt An for Petroliam Nasional Berhad 2,797,459,800
62.67 percent!!!!!!!!




MISC Berhad (MISC) was incorporated in 1968 and is a world leading provider of international energy related maritime solutions and services. We take pride in our asset and service reliability, commitment to uphold the highest standards of health, Safety and Environment (hSE), fostering a culture of excellence amongst our employees, operating responsibly and caring for the environment as well as making a positive difference to the communities in which we operate.

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QUOTE(Lyu @ Dec 1 2017, 12:56 PM)
So he left coz of biz opportunity?
Then y he comes back with Massimo?

Actually got prawn behind the rock la
Maybe gonna buy his memoir n read
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he never left, its just he now based in hong kong as the boss of kerry group, due to his business interests in China. People look at it as if kouk is an employee, he builds the business up then he lets someone else manage

so his sugar business with FELDA was built up, at the side he was building 2 other businesses, this was flour and feed. So the flour and feed went up while the sugar went down, he went to sg build shangrila and wilmar, then after those were built up, he went to HK

Massimo, is a small side business from his Flour business, only natural coz since he makes flour why not make bread. likewise he also has interests in malaysia on other fronts Development (Leisure Mall) , Entertainment (GSC) and vice versa

actually dont even need to read the memoir tho i would recommend it, but a lot of his info can be found here

https://www.ppbgroup.com/our-businesses/flour-milling.php

things like the sugar thing, what people often ignored is our government paid kouk 1b to let go of the sugar business.


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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Dec 1 2017, 01:05 PM)
he never left, its just he now based in hong kong as the boss of kerry group, due to his business interests in China. People look at it as if kouk is an employee, he builds the business up then he lets someone else manage

so his sugar business with FELDA was built up, at the side he was building 2 other businesses, this was flour and feed. So the flour and feed went up while the sugar went down, he went to sg build shangrila and wilmar, then after those were built up, he went to HK

Massimo, is a small side business from his Flour business, only natural coz since he makes flour why not make bread. likewise he also has interests in malaysia on other fronts Development (Leisure Mall) , Entertainment (GSC) and vice versa

actually dont even need to read the memoir tho i would recommend it, but a lot of his info can be found here

https://www.ppbgroup.com/our-businesses/flour-milling.php

things like the sugar thing, what people often ignored is our government paid kouk 1b to let go of the sugar business.
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You also buy stock???
I think wilmar now cheap.how do you think????

MISC BHD. 3816
Last Price Today's Change
7.05 +0.04 (0.57%)


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QUOTE(Lyu @ Dec 1 2017, 12:56 PM)
So he left coz of biz opportunity?
Then y he comes back with Massimo?

Actually got prawn behind the rock la
Maybe gonna buy his memoir n read
He's a smart fellow, as long where this is money can make. Hey at least you get choices....no monopoly. Else one roti company raise prices like toll and fuel rises. You don't like roti Massimo, eat other roti la....

Felda Global Venture share price, from RM4.5 in 2013 drop to RM1.8 in 2017....In 4 years drop 60%, that's Najib for you. Brain stupid, do on air business, dunno what transform, corruption strong. People create value and increase wealth, he pulak decrease wealth. Another idiot Bung Mokhtar, asking come back so can rob again. This kind of people put as leader.......mean stupid and bunch of cows worship. I'm sure there are other better leader....definitely not Najib...


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QUOTE(PLOUFFLE @ Dec 1 2017, 01:05 PM)
Misc
Malaysia international shipping company
Old rm 50 have this logo also!!!!!

Now government own. Under petronas
MISC Berhad (MISC) was incorporated in 1968 and is a world leading provider of international energy related maritime solutions and services. We take pride in our asset and service reliability, commitment to uphold the highest standards of health, Safety and Environment (hSE), fostering a culture of excellence amongst our employees, operating responsibly and caring for the environment as well as making a positive difference to the communities in which we operate.
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What u trying to tell?

Misc mmg gomen punya, this wat I thought at the beginning
I tot misc a IT company sweat.gif

QUOTE(+3kk! @ Dec 1 2017, 01:05 PM)
he never left, its just he now based in hong kong as the boss of kerry group, due to his business interests in China. People look at it as if kouk is an employee, he builds the business up then he lets someone else manage

so his sugar business with FELDA was built up, at the side he was building 2 other businesses, this was flour and feed. So the flour and feed went up while the sugar went down, he went to sg build shangrila and wilmar, then after those were built up, he went to HK

Massimo, is a small side business from his Flour business, only natural coz since he makes flour why not make bread. likewise he also has interests in malaysia on other fronts Development (Leisure Mall) , Entertainment (GSC) and vice versa

actually dont even need to read the memoir tho i would recommend it, but a lot of his info can be found here

https://www.ppbgroup.com/our-businesses/flour-milling.php

things like the sugar thing, what people often ignored is our government paid kouk 1b to let go of the sugar business.
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Gardenia tu he punya ka at the beginning?

GSC... I read from dunno bizinsider that he wanna sell it but no one wan to buy from him...
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QUOTE(mssv19 @ Dec 1 2017, 12:54 PM)

Malaysia, you build up wealth, then suddenly UMNO comes in and scream this and that supremacy and wants free 30% share given foc. No different then daylight robbery. Or bailout this company or that UMNO company when in financial trouble.

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this doesnt really happen, all you need is a bumi entity to buy 30%,

often times this is taken up by KWSP, EPF, Nominees from banks

QUOTE(PLOUFFLE @ Dec 1 2017, 01:08 PM)
You also buy stock???
I think wilmar now cheap.how do you think????

MISC BHD.  3816
Last Price Today's Change
7.05    +0.04 (0.57%)
This also.
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dont really look at SG stocks honestly, then again i dont buy that often, only get if something strikes my fancy and i have spare cash to waste.

looking at IHH and KPJ for the moment cos i know both those companies very very well
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QUOTE(Lyu @ Dec 1 2017, 01:10 PM)
What u trying to tell?

Misc mmg gomen punya, this wat I thought at the beginning
I tot misc a IT company sweat.gif
Gardenia tu he punya ka at the beginning?

GSC... I read from dunno bizinsider that he wanna sell it but no one wan to buy from him...
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Ya.dulu gardenia is his company
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Dec 1 2017, 01:11 PM)
this doesnt really happen, all you need is a bumi entity to buy 30%,

often times this is taken up by KWSP, EPF, Nominees from banks
dont really look at SG stocks honestly, then again i dont buy that often, only get if something strikes my fancy and i have spare cash to waste.

looking at IHH and KPJ for the moment cos i know both those companies very very well
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Genting also good.later wait 8.50 i will buy.

Sure untung

52 Weeks Range: 5.42 - 6.45
Ihh 5225 now 5.64

What price do you think can buy????


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post Dec 1 2017, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(PLOUFFLE @ Dec 1 2017, 01:12 PM)
Ya.dulu gardenia is his company
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Y he no close the biz before he leave

If he closed gardenia, then the Massimo less one competitor
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QUOTE(Lyu @ Dec 1 2017, 01:10 PM)

Gardenia tu he punya ka at the beginning?

GSC... I read from dunno bizinsider that he wanna sell it but no one wan to buy from him...
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im not entirely sure , havent seen anything solid about his gardenia ownership

what people often ignore is Kouk is still doing a business that needs close government ties (after all Bernas controlls the rice), hence if you look at the page i linked, you'd quickly notice the 1Malaysia Flour on the top.

He supplies most of the flour and feed in malaysia, so chances are almost everything you eat has his stamp on it.

QUOTE(PLOUFFLE @ Dec 1 2017, 01:13 PM)
Genting also good.later wait 8.50 i will buy.

Sure untung
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Genting? lol i dont know them well enough

i tend to buy shares i know the company very well, like their accounts seem legit, the company seems visonary and well run

hence i buy like only once or twice a year, keeps the fees down lol
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QUOTE(mssv19 @ Dec 1 2017, 01:08 PM)
He's a smart fellow, as long where this is money can make. Hey at least you get choices....no monopoly. Else one roti company raise prices like toll and fuel rises. You don't like roti Massimo, eat other roti la....

Felda Global Venture share price, from RM4.5 in 2013 drop to RM1.8 in 2017....In 4 years drop 60%, that's Najib for you. Brain stupid, do on air business, dunno what transform, corruption strong. People create value and increase wealth, he pulak decrease wealth. Another idiot Bung Mokhtar, asking come back so can rob again. This kind of people put as leader.......mean stupid and bunch of cows worship. I'm sure there are other better leader....definitely not Najib...
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Same like Eco World punya crita
Dunno his which property company got stolen, then he open another one

He said something like "u can stole the asset, but not the skills"

But Ewint saham mcm a bit meh
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post Dec 1 2017, 01:19 PM

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If you look at Robert Kuok biznes, he is on the "Clean" side of the biz...maybe because his mother told him...his biz, hotel, flour, sugar, shipping, mainly traditional....I say "Clean" aspect...maybe buddhist teaching or his mother advice or what

You look at Vincent Tan, crony of Mahathir, on the "Bad" of biz...Toto, Gambling, Genting, Alcohol like Mahathir son.......

The so call "Crooks" biz is the one gather by Najib....those like Jho Low....pure crook....swindle......

You can see......how their relationship.....and each biz type...Maybe this is what Robert Kuok mention those "Bad" chinese and geng with UMNO crooks....
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QUOTE(babykon101 @ Dec 1 2017, 11:57 AM)
don't even admire him. he got there not by hard work, may be sucking M Cock is hard work? I don't know.
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