ECRL fares will be affordable

By NST TEAM - November 28, 2017 @ 5:49pm

KUALA LUMPUR: Passengers will pay as little as 20 cents per kilometre for the 688km East Coast Rail Link (ECRL).

Deputy Finance Minister Datuk Othman Aziz said this is to ensure that the fare will not to burden the people.

"As an example, the fare for a trip from Gombak to Tumpat will cost about RM120.

"The fare will not burden the people," he said this in reply to Datuk Dr Ewon Ebin (BN-Ranau) in Dewan Rakyat today.

Ewon had asked the ministry to state the country's projected revenue from the ECRL project and whether the income would be sufficient to pay the cost of the project.

Othman said ECRL's revenue will not be focused on just passenger fares alone.

He said ECRL, which will cut travel time between the east and west coast from 12 hours on average to a mere four hours, will also harness freight charges to boost revenue.

In August, state federal action council chairman Datuk Seri Mustapa Mohamed said the cost of operation for the train service would be high but the government was willing to subsidise it up to its capability.

He noted that no country makes a profit from public transport and just like the Mass Rapid Transit (MRT), the ECRL is subsidised by at least 50 percent.

The Opposition had criticised that the high cost of the ECRL project would lead to an expensive fare. --Reporting by FERNANDO FONG, VEENA BABULAL and ARFA YUNUS

Mahal setan

can get AA from KL to KB for that price or less

For that, you have to do advanced booking. If you book early, one way on flight can be below RM 100, but that's if you book very early

Airport (KLIA 2) is still 60 km south of KL.

For that, you have to do advanced booking. If you book early, one way on flight can be below RM 100, but that's if you book very early

Airport (KLIA 2) is still 60 km south of KL.

Mahal setan

Yup true. But still RM120 is quite expensive for east coast people..they might stick with regular overnight bus.

Yup true. But still RM120 is quite expensive for east coast people..they might stick with regular overnight bus.

Not necessarily.

If the fare really at RM 120, we have to look at other examples...

Bus option is RM 50, but takes 8 hours.

Airline, fare itself can be more than RM 120 one way, if book last minute, but then KLIA 2 is very far from the city.

So, electric train, which takes 4 hours from Gombak to KB at RM 120 is pretty competitive.

if 3-4 fella take 1 car drive there from kl, is how long journey? will it be 6-7hours also ah? i dont think hwy cover all the way right?

if 3-4 fella take 1 car drive there from kl, is how long journey? will it be 6-7hours also ah? i dont think hwy cover all the way right?

driving kl-kb it would take roughtly 8-9 hours on casual driving. do not believe what google map say. 8 hour drive, u need to stop to pee, eat and so on.
those who make it in 6 hours either bluffing or driving macam babi.

Currently, the expressway network doesn't go all the way to Kelantan.

For that, need to wait for the completion of Central Spine Road (CSR).

Even if the dual carriageway (not talking about expressway) goes all the way to KB, say the Karak highway to Bentong then add the Central Spine Road, then add the Kuala Krai - KB highway, physical distance is still about 500 km.

500 km if all dual carriageway, assume average automobile speed of 90 km/h...still need 5 hours 30 minutes or so by car.

Go Kelantan, can do what there?

Serious question, not trolling

The shorter the distance, the cost of ticket per kilometer is likely to be higher.  As can be seen in the northern EDTP, it can go up to more than 0.40 MYR per kilometer.

This has obvious negative implications.  Private vehicles are not going away.  Public transport needs to discourage the use of private vehicles.  However, with the direct cost of private vehicle at 0.15 to 0.20 MYR per kilometer, public transport cannot produce a desirable impact.  At 0.40 MYR per kilometer, it is worse.

If private transport cannot be made much more expensive, there is a need to channel funds to greatly reduce the price of public transport.  I would say 0.10 MYR per kilometer is attractive.

It is not right to cite the lack of trains as the excuse for not providing cheaper public transport options.  There is no immediate plan to get those trains.  So, the only option is to reduce the ticket prices of the current trains.

Imagine Uber and Grab Car that cost more than taxis, because they are available through the Internet, and are "safer".  How can that sort of pricing strategy change anything?

Not necessarily.

If the fare really at RM 120, we have to look at other examples...

Bus option is RM 50, but takes 8 hours.

Airline, fare itself can be more than RM 120 one way, if book last minute, but then KLIA 2 is very far from the city.

So, electric train, which takes 4 hours from Gombak to KB at RM 120 is pretty competitive.

as expected

since kl - padang besar already near rm80

4 hours from Gombak to KB? For real?

Do these trains have stops or lavatory in it? I don't think anyone can hold no 1 and 2 during these 4 hours travel time or find some time to eat.

The thing is, the current railway network in terms of coverage is essentially unchanged since the British days.

Travelling between east and west coast by rail need to go all the way to Gemas. At least with the ECRL, the route would be more direct, and in terms of travel time, train with new alignment will definitely be much faster than car.



With ECRL, towns like Bentong can be closer economically to the Klang Valley and obviously it's a good thing.

But the question is how much is the ridership from KL to Terengganu?

Can RM120 recover the investment spend? Is it politically motivated just for the erection? jeng jeng jeng...

DarkNitenoienahchunkevraulketchum come gip your pendapat bernas...

The route of ecrl doesn't look efficient. Why design it like that?

To me it just looks like they want to connect port Klang with kuantan port. Then the additional route to Kelantan is just some side idea that might never be realized. It looks more like an afterthought.

But the question is how much is the ridership from KL to Terengganu?

Can RM120 recover the investment spend? Is it politically motivated just for the erection? jeng jeng jeng...

DarkNitenoienahchunkevraulketchum come gip your pendapat bernas...

4 hours from Gombak to KB? For real?

Do these trains have stops or lavatory in it? I don't think anyone can hold no 1 and 2 during these 4 hours travel time or find some time to eat.

I doubt majority org Kelantan can afford that fare...

I doubt majority org Kelantan can afford that fare...

True, take grab additional RM75 including tolls to KL city center

Not necessarily.

If the fare really at RM 120, we have to look at other examples...

Bus option is RM 50, but takes 8 hours.

Airline, fare itself can be more than RM 120 one way, if book last minute, but then KLIA 2 is very far from the city.

So, electric train, which takes 4 hours from Gombak to KB at RM 120 is pretty competitive.

if 3-4 fella take 1 car drive there from kl, is how long journey? will it be 6-7hours also ah? i dont think hwy cover all the way right?

normally it take me about 4 hour to drive from KL to KB through Gua Musang. Toll around rm10, gas rm80, divide by 4 still the cheapest way to go

driving kl-kb it would take roughtly 8-9 hours on casual driving. do not believe what google map say. 8 hour drive, u need to stop to pee, eat and so on.
those who make it in 6 hours either bluffing or driving macam babi.

On first glance RM120 looks a bit pricey, especially for Kelantan people with lower average income. But if you consider the fact that:
> It's distance is 600km+.
> It will cut road traveling time nearly by half to 4 hours.

Then I would say this is a fair price.
I don't know about you guys but if I'm from Kelantan I'll take this train anytime.

I doubt majority org Kelantan can afford that fare...

Mahal setan

Wah so fast oh.

But the question is how much is the ridership from KL to Terengganu?

Can RM120 recover the investment spend? Is it politically motivated just for the erection? jeng jeng jeng...

DarkNitenoienahchunkevraulketchum come gip your pendapat bernas...

Raya with family of 4 person will be RM120x4=RM480.

What is the price using a car ?

normally it take me about 4 hour to drive from KL to KB through Gua Musang. Toll around rm10, gas rm80, divide by 4 still the cheapest way to go

Cost of ETS platinum today from Sentral to Padang Besar is RM102.

Considering how much lower the ridership will be to east coast, RM120 from Gombak to KB seems optimistic.

Cost of ETS platinum today from Sentral to Padang Besar is RM102.

Considering how much lower the ridership will be to east coast, RM120 from Gombak to KB seems optimistic.

Wow how u cilok

? Gua Musang somemore. Usually it takes 5.5 hrs on a good day with light traffic.

wah so long journey, i guess this service is pretty good then 4hours.

Only syurgo pipu said KB is the best, lots of scenery, jange pecoh etc etc. Reality is the city sux big time, people will either go to Kuantan or KT. Or to KB bekoz wanna cheong at Thai.

Only syurgo pipu said KB is the best, lots of scenery, jange pecoh etc etc. Reality is the city sux big time, people will either go to Kuantan or KT. Or to KB bekoz wanna cheong at Thai.

Not everybody can afford one shot rm120 tho
And, not surprising if it's up to rm200 few

cant the train move faster?

I tot they use standard gauge already? Can go 300km/h wei. please go faster.

Mahal setan

I still think RM120 is quite cheap, factoring the inflation in future. Even travelling to KT with toll also cost u around RM60 already.

can cancel this project.no body care.too expensive.