These are the specs im looking for,

* 8x optical zoom
* 2.5" LCD display
* 7 megapixel or higher
* Any brands

Well, the truth is, my budget is around RM1000-1300
Any recommendations of which i should take?
I know that my budget is a little low or what
So, just give me some reviews about this matter
Thanks

no such digital SLR at that price.

you don't use 8x optical zoom for DSLR either.

set your budget to at least RM 2k for a decent USED unit. 3k if you wish to get NEW unit.

dang
My bad on the 8x optical zoom
What should it be?
'USED' unit for 2k?
If it's 3k for a new set, it would be high freaking end
I just need a simple and easy to use digital SLR

DSLR for 1k? with 8X optical zoom? wow.......i regretted buying my D40 XD
maybe you want to buy a prosumer instead? S3 IS?

This post has been edited by Whos Your Daddy: Apr 23 2007, 08:44 PM

the last time i keep up with the photography news, nikon d40 was the cheapest among the entry level dslr. take a look at this model

i think pentax should be cheaper

Ohh...
But isn't Nikon D40 is kinda rare now?
I couldn't find it at my place here in Kuantan
Anyone knows where i can get them near me? or KL?

p/s : What's a S3 IS?

CAnon s3 is is a prosumer
has 12x optical zoom
tifting lcd

LOL, maybe because all the beginning photography enthusiasts are snapping them up faster than the new stocks can come in!

D40 RARE? its the hottest selling Dslr in the market at the moment

That would cost a lot right?
Anyways, what's the current market price for Nikon D40 and Canon S3?
Which is better compared to both?

P/s : I'm a wannabe photographer who doesn't know anything
Sorry

an SLR is definately better then a proconsumer camera...
D40 i got price frm fotokem
2200 :
kit lens
body
tripod
bag
2gb toshiba 50x
lcd protector


This post has been edited by manutd304: Apr 23 2007, 09:19 PM

a D40 also cost u RM2k, how u gonna afford it with that budget?

Maybe u can think of Nikon P5000

I could go rob 7-11?
How much would Nikon P5000 be??

i think u better go for prosumer than next time when u think u need a higher end then go for DSLR
i think fuji s6500 or 9600 is u can effort is better
i think 28mm wide angle and hot shoe is much better
6500 around 1300 and 9600 around 1700-1800
is around ur budget
9600 give u hotshoe so u can use flash gun next time

hihi, maybe u can consider the Sony H5, i'm selling off mine secondhand... but its not a DSLR, but fits your requirements....

but only if you are really interested after weighing your options as what the others has suggested, then PM me lar...

1 more little question
Prosumer camera uses films instead of memory cards?
I don't know sorry

nah.... they're all digital i guess...

but i really think you should read up before investing $$$

That's why i need assistance from u guys who r already pro

just a few hundred bucks diff just get an SLR la..

no sir, RM 3k - 4k DSLR is still considered beginner category. the semi-pro / pro series would cost nearly a car just for the body alone.




not necessarily so. i've highlighted it some where before but it's tedious for me to retype.

1. not everyone is into lens changing.

2. not everyone is into lugging lens around.

3. not everyone is into spending on lens.

my S7000 on it's own has better zoom than your DSLR kit lens and has better macro / super macro than your DSLR kit lens too.

so for you or anyone to say DSLR is better, i'd say you'd better state your reasons.

correct oso ....

get 1 prosumer i think is more suitable for u
is true

Means i might use 0% easy payment to get that Nikon D40
I might search around for the best price there might be
Thanks anyway

pls dun spoil DSLR market ...Rm1-1.3K i think even 2nd hand 300D you also cannot get ...maybe Pentax or Samsung u could...but again 7MP above hahah...no way since those only 6MP

If you are new in photography, its better to start from point & shoot then slowly upgrade to prosumer. Only when you are ready to explore more and willing to spend on lenses then go into DSLR.

Looking at nice photos taken using DSLR might give you an illusion that you can do that too if you have the same camera but usually its not the case if you don't have that kind of experience. Well, this is just my opinion.

.... y r u using a dlsr then?

yea i agree, where got 1300 for a DSLR? if got plz let me know cuz i am looking for one too

I would recommend you to go for second hand Canon D20, can get around RM 2500, (body + kit lens only)

brother he said "not everyone".
he also said his PNS camera better than some kit lenses.
ofc he's using that **-200mm (or was it 300 lens, goldfries?)



btw, if u wanna know about cameras, google first la. i mean, u ask qquestinos like how much is dslr, isit RM1000...use film or memory card... aiii...

here let me help
http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/enjoydslr/index.html

i'd apprecciate if u take the effort to read, as i took the effort to find that link.

because i want to get certain thing out of the DSLR which my Fuji S7000 cannot produce.

and i'm ok with lens changing, lugging lens around & spending on lens but there were many occasions that i wish i was with my prosumer or P&S.

look at the standard DSLR, i want to shoot macro i have to change to macro lens or some other lens that supports macro. i want to zoom, i also have to change to zoom lens.

if you're talking about overall wonders of photography results, the DSLR wins hands down on capable users but my post was highlighting on other issues like convenience and cost.

D20?

was referring to prosumer. S7000 is prosumer.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Apr 24 2007, 10:38 AM

sorry i wasn't clear on that :/
apologies.

his budget is 1k-1.3k and he wants a big zoom range. How can you achieve that with dslr? a nikon D40 with 18-200 will cost you around 4-5k already. Better get a prosumer.

word....

so i guess he can make conclusion now, righttttt?

you're better off with a S3 IS , 12x zoom. within your budget range... looks like a "dslr" but miniaturized

Guess your all correct.
I dont see much difference in dslr and prosumer cams.
Thanks anyway

edited: 1 more little stupid question, what's the difference between prosumer and dslr?


This post has been edited by Wonka: Apr 24 2007, 06:41 PM

if u dont see much difference in dslr and prosumer cams,
get a 850IS, ngam ur requirement also
still can customize aperture n shutter speed

if still cant see the difference, then any camera will do, really

if ur still new just get prosumer first.........it takes a long way to learn to use a dSLR.....

To answer ur question,
the main different between prosumer and dslr camera is, the dslr can change its lenses, but prosumer cannot.
But the differ between prosumer and consumer camera is, the prosumer one hv more manual options (e.g. manual focus, manual apeture etc.) than normal consumer dgicam.


This post has been edited by neoardi: Apr 24 2007, 07:59 PM

hm..so for prosumer camera,wat the model u guy recommand?
i saw nikon p5000 quite good, and many forumer tell me about fuji f31d..

wchi model to recommend?

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0702/07022006_nikonp5000.asp
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0602/06022111canons3is.asp
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0609/06091405_canon_g7.asp

check these cameras out. fuji f31d is not a prosumer. ermmmm.. well... in that case 850IS i also not prosumer...

aiyah... bro... these 5 cameras.. go out try urself first then come back as us.

i can telll you 850IS looks nice, sleek enough, and takes good pictures
f31d (fuji) looks slightly, only slightly bulky but takes BETTER pictures
as for the powershots, i have no idea.
as for the p5000 i also have no idea.

someone said on top, if u cannot see difference btween prosumer and slr, stick with prosumer (coz cheaper). if u a lot of cash (or don't mind forking out more money, go for d40 or 350D.

I saw Panasonic Lumix FZ8 is quite a nice model
Anyone knows how much would that be?

i personally like the G7, but abit expensive. Get the fuji F31d if you dont mind having a consumer.

u can't go wrong with these 2 but nikon p5000 offer more accesories upgrade..

9600 and 6500 is not bad 28mm is useful

28mm is VERY useful. Especially for crowded room group portraits, and in the interior of some historical building.

Extra angle of coverage at 28mm is quite significant compared to the usual 35mm. But there will be the tradeoff of extra image distortion, especially at the corners. But correctable somewhat using Photoshop and similar software.

and heavy too!! but it's a solidly built camera.

haha, can change thread tittle back to DC recommendation oready,...

The prosumer camera I'm using before my current DSLR is Konica Minolta Dimage Z5. Some might think this is not a superb camera but it gives me a chance to try out manual settings, long focal length (12x), good quality photos with no purple fringing and best of all, it uses AA batteries which you can buy at any 7-11 stores instead of battery pack. However, with all these its still can't compare to a DSLR for better lens customization, extra manual settings, etc.

the best model of a prosumer camera reviewed by cliff smith at trustedreviews.com
Fuji Finepix s9500
10 perfect scores (i can't believe a review website can give a perfect 10)

http://www.trustedreviews.com/digital-came...inePix-S9500/p1

currently have been upgraded to s9600
but will cost around rm1,650 for new

but i think that is the highest end for a prosumer currently.
the optical zoom is like a dslr, manual control zoom. no W or T button

for rm1.3k budget, can go down to Finepix s6500
less powerful, but for u who mind the budget.

i use s5600, hahaha
because at that time budget is my constraint (more than a year ago)

Anyway dont buy the stupid Casio DC
u will get disapointed

i just buy Nikon P5000 very good but not PRO like DSLR
boleh tahan

With the budget I RECOMMENED Fuji F31fd---> Lx2 Panasonic

This post has been edited by nonamemacau: May 31 2007, 08:32 AM

http://www.onlydigitalcamera.blogspot.com/

what's your reason?

i used the exilim cam before. output was nice.

i like to ask anyone here... i want to start using a SLR camera, but i'm not sure which model is the best 1 to start with. can u guys give some recommend...

What is ur budget? Below 3K there will be Nikon D40/40x, Canon 350D, Olympus, Sony A100, Pentax K100D.

around 5k like tat.... is d70s quite good enough for newbie?

For 5K budget you may go for D80+ kit + flash to start with.

but i heard some people said if compare d80 n d200 better choose d200, coz it perfomance much better than d80 and u just need to add 1k more... hmm, a little bit confius now... which 1 to buy...

Of course the D200 would be better and more powerfull. Plus it doesn't hurt to have 5fps shooting speed as well. But will you need all these options? Plus spending on the D200 Body would be around RM4.8K . Then you'll have to think about the lens..... Plus you mentioned you are new to the DSLR. The D200 might be a bit overkill or a steep learning curve.....

The package suggested by cityfish is quite good and complete . Just to quote what Digital Camera Magazine reported about the D200

"This is the next step up from the D70s - although only pros and serious enthusiats will benefit from what it can do and have the expertise to make the mos of its potential. It's fast in a number of respects and image quality is impressive; this is another solid Nikon model at an excellent price."

But if you're prepared to spend the $$$ and go all the way, by all means get the D200.....

This post has been edited by julchin_09: Jun 16 2007, 03:46 AM

Hmm... so is better to start with d80 with my budget lor... tq all for the info..... anyway, is there anyclub i can join??

What will be your first len(ses)?
A good DSLR body and a kit lens usually will head for a "divorce" sooner than you'd think.
Budget also for your accessories...

But I was told that the D80 kit would cover all your needs and its known that NIKON gives better Kit lenses than CANON anyday. Esp this D80 which come with the 18-135mm lense.

Im planning to buy D80 body only and use AF-S DX VR Zoom-Nikkor 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED. (sugeested by my fren) Is this combination ok?

18-200mm covers from wide angle to zoom. If u dont want to carry many lens type with u this lens will cover mostly all ur needs. Maybe u might want to add one prime lens for potrait shoot or one for macro if u are into this kind of photography.

This post has been edited by afs: Jun 16 2007, 08:11 PM

haha... i luv potrait shoot. What lense u will suggest?

If i were u, i'll get

1) D80 body - RM3.4k
2) Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 - RM1.3k
3) Nikkor 50mm f1.8 - RM360

Nice and just slightly over RM5k, just forget about tele for current moment.

is the fujifilm finepix S5700 a good dslr ? Im looking for my first dslr, and i found someone selling brand new for RM866. Is that price for real ? Seems too good to be true.

it comes with standard accessories from manufacturer + 1 year warranty from fujifilm

The fujifilm finepix S5700 is not a true DSLR. It is only a superzoom that looks like a DSLR.

oh really ? mind to explain a lil bit ? coz i dunno bout cameras hehe

that's rather misleading.

the S5700 is not even a DSLR!

to be identified as DSLR, it's not about the shape. it's the mechanism.

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Added on September 26, 2007, 11:05 pm

http://www.goldfries.com/digitalphotograph...-camera-for-me/

can read here too.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Sep 26 2007, 11:05 PM

no wonder it's so cheap

thanx

DSLR can change lens. if the camera can't change lens, it's confirm not a DSLR already.

so how much is the cheapest dslr in the market now ?

around RM2k, choose between Nikon D40 or Canon 350D.
Personal recommendation would be Canon 350D.

cheapest, if you don't mind used unit, can be below RM 2k.

I bought mine for less than RM 2k, used unit and still working well. After that the additional $$$ was used for various parts.

Hey guys.....why don't you all consider about Olympus E-510??? Its features are better than 400d and d40x, at least the kit lens certainly outperform both's kit lenses. If you buy the twin lens kit package, it's very worthwhile and I am sure that you can cover quite a number of occasions already. Just my two cents.....

For more details please go to:
My Webpage

thanx for all the replies guys.

Will think bout it more

the dark side is calling your name....


bwahhaha

The Olympus is calling his name as well....hehe...

hahaha need to save money first

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Added on September 30, 2007, 2:54 amafter some readings, i think i better start with prosumer camera. So can a prosumer takes multiple shots like a slr ? I mean, like very2 small lag between shots. Of course cannot beat slr rite ?

Im quite interested on the the panasonic lumix dmc-fz18 coz it has 18x optical zoom. Is it good ?

This post has been edited by munky: Sep 30 2007, 02:54 AM