if AMD didn break its promise again (we dont want see task manager anymore plz), we shuld getting some numbers of its barcelona in around 12hours (its sunday night in USA now). just cant wait to see how far AMD cheat on its performance (i hope AMD isnt cheating).

Uik Barcelona pla .. got link?

AMD Barcelona is AMD what? X4? Opteron?

hmmmnn...searching the web now for more info.......

this geek forum will sure gv a hell lot of info u want, save from ur searching liao

Barcelona is Opteron.
Why bother waiting a server class processor? Are you sure you're getting one?

Consumer should wait for Agena/Kuma instead

What is the upcoming AMD processor that have better performance than current 1 ?

AAaaa..... this? --->

First of all, you need to state which one you wanted to compare to. Currently, there is alot AMD processor available like Sempron, Athlon, Opteron etc. And i am pretty sure the newer one would be able to perform better but the mystery would be, by how much.

Haihz, its obvious these people want to build a server pc lulz.

Don't you mean home user? Yeah Aguma 1900 is great already, if not Kuma 2500 eh?

Nice. AMD K8L (or K10) coming..

Barcelona -> Q2

Agena, Kuma, Rana -> Q3

hey, the Barcelona though its an opteron, but it is the same architecture as the desktop variant. im not waiting for the server cpu, but waiting for the performance numbers, the cpu wont be available untill end of this year also.

*is there any wrong getting a server cpu? the previous Opteron 144 is hugely popular among consumers

yeah...why not.performance talk.

u don't get my point don't you?

besides, Barcelona is Socket-F

talking about mainstream consumer market here... not corporate server market

I mean... people just "barcelona here, barcelona there" .... nobody bothers about Agena/Kuma at all

This post has been edited by soulfly: Apr 24 2007, 10:09 AM

u don't get my point don't you?

Barcelona performance will STRONGLY reflect on Agena/Kuma/SPARTAAAA/whatever because they are the same architecture. The difference in socket doesn't change all that much besides multiprocessor support.

Btw. More than 12 hours already. Still nothing. lol.

were there any press release from amd about the demo? or was it just a speculation?

Latest press release from AMD http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/Virtual...~117115,00.html

well... that isn't so bad

Still no real numbers as far as i can see.

this http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Produc...96_8800,00.html

... is still not considered as real numbers?

Show me Barcelona numbers from that list? I must have missed them.

This post has been edited by ikanayam: Apr 24 2007, 10:55 AM

no, this is Opteron K8 benchmark, not K8L.

If those are the real numbers, barcelona is as ghey as the fab 5 in gay town. Looking at the charts some of the Intel processors in the charts are actually Netburst. And in the ones where they take on the Core based Xeons, they're never 15 percent faster. Certainly short of the 40 peak promised. And not to mention, Penryn is around the corner with even more hard hitting action and it hasn't even been released.

This post has been edited by empire23: Apr 24 2007, 11:08 AM

those links must be very misleading then, Opty2218.. sigh

This post has been edited by soulfly: Apr 24 2007, 11:08 AM

Barcelona's 20% integer and 50% FP improvement (according to latest press releases) is only vs a Clovertown (not penryn based) running at the same clocks. The part in bold is extremely important, because it is expected that the quad core parts will only run up to around 2.5ghz initially. And these are peak figures. The general case will obviously be lower. Not looking very peachy for AMD right now, although in the server space HT3 will certainly help them smack intel for 4p and higher configs. But those aren't exactly volume sellers.

This post has been edited by ikanayam: Apr 24 2007, 11:12 AM

stop speculating, this are the numbers.
and this.

more info will be coming soon, just wait and see.

*these are all synthetic benchmark, where's the real world benchies?

LOL fudzilla. I would NEVER question their numbers. lol.
And the tgdaily link is just a rehash of what AMD said in their press release.

f***? Fudzilla, isn't he that dude from the INQ? ZOMGWTFBBQSAUCELOL.

Barcelona support Am2? If not, i have to go to garage sale next time

dun many of us use optty during the 939 days?

No... Barcelona is Socket-F

Agena is AM2

Nice, in that case let's focus on Agena or Kuma perhaps

so barcelona uses Socket F....

i would rather stick with Ahtlon X2....its much cheaper...

Kuma definitely.... but it wont be release not until towards the end of the year

then lets wait and see lor, but i have high hopes for AMD

waaa`` play 4p ... , 3p not enough?
kk..`, wat does 4p means?
is it 4 processors on 1 board?

barcelona is quad core

xP = x numbers of processors (sockets) in a board.
i.e. 2P = 2 processor board

Sometimes 2P is refered to as DP (dual) while >= 4 is called MP (multi).
Single proc is UP (uni).

This post has been edited by cks2k2: May 18 2007, 10:22 AM

plan to get barcelona before, because i like barcelona football team..
but it is using socket F, too expensive ..

Bad news guys. Looks like the countdown to Barcelona needs to be longer.

Probably delayed until August or September 2007. See this link:

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20070516PD217.html

i dunno bout amd
but i heard phenom is intergrating graphics like r600 intergrating physx
is it true?
if its that, then AMD's busted...hopefully, barcelona,kuma and whatever next name they have...will go heads on with new intel

that is fusion.i bet u can only see its shadow in around 2011. given with AMD's usual slow development and delays