My GF applied internship from UTM and doing good in Germany now, total 4 months only.
On 3rd months, she decided to apply for Master Courses at Germany after the final 6 months semester at UTM.
Then she will be able to get a job and lives there easily.

I was graduated from Asia Pacific University (TPM @ Bukit Jalil) with Bachelor of Science in IT with 2nd Class Honours, CGPA less than 3.0 (Graduated on Jan 2013), 4 years from now.
Working in at Accounting Software Company as Consultant, mainly on Supporting Client and Sales, not doing anything related to coding.

Want to ask is is anyone here can advice with experience.
If I want to get to work or study at Germany, to lives with my GF, what are the ways or choices I can make?

This is really important to me, I have less than a year time to prepare myself.
I will be going Europe for a trip on end of this year (14 days).

If I couldn't make it there, to worst case, we have discussed, may have to break up or wait until I make it there.
8 years relationship~

Working in multinational company which has subsidaries in germany and ask to be placed in there

My officemate from Dublin, Ireland also said German is the best nation to work & live.. he estimate to work here in Malaysia for 3 years only and he plan to move & live there (final destination) after work in several nation like Canada, Hong Kong, Dublin & UK

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This post has been edited by frozendreamsky: Jan 26 2022, 01:29 PM

Why not go study masters with your gf then? If you want to work, the best option for you is to find for english speaking jobs. I suggest you hang around in toytowngermany.com more to look for these kind of jobs.

that is one option and how i went to Germany

It's a good place to live and work if one can overcome the language barrier. Depending on which city, some places speak hardly any English


Germany is one of the most open country to foreigners. Studying there is very cheap and there are a lot of job oppotunities too. Getting visa is not a problem once can secure a job offer.

Thank you, I will look into it.
For Master Study, my Degree result wasn't that good. 2.73 CGPA it is applicable.
Appreciate.

This post has been edited by shinzen90: Nov 28 2017, 02:07 PM

first you have to know how to talk german.

after that maybe u can try to approach german company.

Your gf can speak fluent German? If she's not fluent in German, is she studying in English?

Without being able to speak fluent German, it is difficult (but not impossible) to get a job.

There are courses in Germany that do masters in English, although the choices are much more limited. Also there are private universities too which charges tuition fees and generally not favourable.

If you are really serious about going to germany to study/work, start learning German. Once you mastered that, there is a whole lot of opportunities that will open up there.

I have check with Gothe, part time study take time.
Beside Gothe, any other place recommend?

My GF just started to self-learn german.
She want to get master course in English, something related to BioScience IT.
Her 4 month Internship at Aachen is great, if she can get scholarship for master, then she will take the time to master german too.

Scholarship in Germany is actually not a big deal, because the education fees in Germany is very low.
You should join her to learn German too. You can start self-learning yourself at https://www.duolingo.com/

A lot of people go to Germany to enrol in language courses. Maybe you should consider that too? If you have reached fluency in German, you can easily get accepted into University and better chances to find work too!

Really appreciates for your advice, I have been started to learn from Duolingo. =D
Good to know that you mention "lot of people enrol in language course" and get job easily.
You build my confidence to get there. Thank you thank you.

Once you decided that you like to learn German and willing to spend time to be proficient in it, it is best that you get certified for it. There's various different levels, and B1 level is considered fluent enough to study, live and work in Germany. You can learn German via the classroom courses and take the exams in KL or Germany

https://www.goethe.de/ins/my/en/index.html

Interested to know as well.

i've studied german at goethe before, pls take exam there, as u need to master a certain basic level of german language to enrol into their university although there is some english master but usually will come with charges. but german master mostly may be 0 fees + scholarship. you can view their formal website daad.de for the course info in germany. pls start studying german now to join your gf in germany later.

Fix your English first before attempting to learn German.

Your German is unlikely to amount to anything, so your trump card to get a job or a spot in a master's program will largely depend on your command of English.

If English koyak rabak like what we see here, it will be a tough.......understand that the first foreign language of most Europeans is English. More than 50% of Germans speak English and it's not far fetch to say that at least 30% would be native fluent in it. So if you can't speak fluent English and definitely can't speak German like a German, you know what it means.

Okay & thanks for your information.

Understand, besides german, i need to improve on my english as well, maybe i could get the IELTS certification right?

Depends really. I lived in Germany for a few years. If you are in big cities or in the west, it is much easier getting around with English. Younger people tend to know more English compared to old people. In east Germany, a lot of people especially the older generation learned Russian as the second language.

That being said, even though they might understand and able to speak English, it doesn't mean they will! Their English is less fluent than their German, so they have less confidence in speaking it. Yes, we won't be able to speak Germans like the Germans do for sure, but we might be able to communicate in basic/broken German. When they can see how much we are struggling with it, they might switch to English after they realize their less-than-perfect English is much better than our broken German.

So if one plan to live and work in Germany for mid to long term, I think it is still best to learn some German.