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post Nov 29 2008, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Nov 28 2008, 07:15 AM)
You guys are taking advice from cable manufacturers/sellers. They wanna sell their cables! laugh.gif

Fine, in the end it's your money and your eyes/ears. If you can see/hear the difference, good for you. notworthy.gif
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i havent been following this thread but these links might help http://www.audioholics.com/education/cable...hdmi%20shootout .. according to the links, el cheapo hdmi and super branded ones do have some diff.. that is the super ultra expensive MIGHT be future proof .. but for me i would go for normal hdmi and if the format changes its still not too late to change to a better 1.. THESE ARE THE RESULT OF THE TEST http://www.audioholics.com/education/cable...testing-results
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post Nov 30 2008, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Nov 30 2008, 01:22 AM)
Monster is selling for around USD100 (+/-RM300) in US.
It's only overprice in M'sia  doh.gif
Agreed with aiman04 that d performance of a cable would degrade over increase in length.
But it's undeniable that monster is still a good quality cable and more superior to cheapo cables.
Personally I find there is performance difference so I am willing to spend the $$$ on the cable.
It comes back to price Vs performance and affordability issue at the end.
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bro, just curious whether have u done any blind tests on the hdmi cables?.. i have done it n i couldnt tell the diff.. but i tested super cheap hdmi and bluejeans, no diff .. and according to my friend who works in hifi shop also claimed he couldnt find any diff between cheap hdmi and expensive ones (but did not say what brand)... maybe monster got diff compared to el cheapo in blind tests.. let me know ok

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post Nov 30 2008, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Nov 30 2008, 10:22 AM)
When I swapped my FOC cable with Monster,
I see colour and contrast difference on my panel smile.gif
I haven't tried QED tho.
I have no equipment to perform blind test.
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u just need a friend to help u. he change the cable (or not change the cable) then u see whether there is a diff or not.. after 10 times then just match what u see n what he did
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post Nov 30 2008, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Nov 30 2008, 06:18 PM)
If that's the case. That's what I did...
I swapped cable with d source on, put tv in standby mode, swapped cable then switched on the tv again immediately icon_rolleyes.gif
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bro the cable changing part is not supposed to be done by u icon_question.gif .. u need some1 to do it (randomly change between cables) without telling u which is which.. do 10 test n see how many times u guess it right at the end ..anyway i am just curious... dont have to do it if u r not interested... peace icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 1 2008, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Nov 30 2008, 11:29 PM)
The difference was so obvious to me. Even my wife 'complained' the tv was brighter and sharper. doh.gif
She didn't know that I changed the cable until i told her.
Btw I cant perform any test going forward... I dun have any FOC cable with me.
It's with kamen rider...
Plugging on n off with d M1000 rapidly would cause 'scar' on the gold connectors  sweat.gif
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Noted... by the way u dont have to plug it on n off rapidly.. u should get some1 plug in or out slowly if u wanna do the test
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post Dec 6 2008, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(myqd @ Dec 6 2008, 01:31 PM)
so conclusion is if u need longer HDMI cable like 10m,it's better to choose GOOD HDMI then normal non-brand HDMI cable? The thing is a GOOD hdmi count on length so 10m easily cost u arround RM800-RM1000,so mind to share what's the 10m hdmi cable u guys using now ?
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mine i think 9m jin biru
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post Dec 7 2008, 01:26 AM

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[quote=bryanlee,Dec 6 2008, 06:32 PM]
[quote=myqd,Dec 6 2008, 05:36 PM]
apa itu 9m jin biru ? u mean brand is "jin biru" @ 9m? good kah? hmm.gif

I think jin biru mean Blue Jean Cable.

www.bluejeanscable.com
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betul betul laugh.gif
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post Dec 7 2008, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 7 2008, 02:19 PM)
1. no need to have expensive cables to know there is no difference. it's digital.  biggrin.gif
it's like your digital USB2.0 cable or SATA..
you have  a file say 10MB size which you copied from hard disk A  to harddisk B , suddenly you notice the file size of the file has grown 5% to 10.5MB after the transfer ..  or suddenly your Word document which contains 1000words suddenly have extra 10words after transfering to another HDD  biggrin.gif 

this is what these people are saying in relation to improved video quality and different priced HDMI 1.3 cables.... as though the digital signal can "improve" or "degrade" the analog video source, in the traditional manner (i..e improved/degrade analog attributes like contrast, Y/C , etc) used to compare analog video cables.
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so case close yet? any1 still claim there is a diff in pic quality between cheap n expensive 1.3 hdmi cables?
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post Dec 24 2008, 12:57 AM

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1) Misleading or Not
For those of u who bought expensive hdmi cable there is nothing wrong with it. But for a noob like me who only relies on reviews and articles, until now i havent seen any articles by engineers (not your local hifi saleman) who state that super hi price hdmi cable give better pq. Then i see ppl here claiming it does. I am confused now. I have done a blind A/B blindtest between good built (not super branded) bluejeans hdmi cable with cap palang hdmi cables but no diff. I just wanna know the truth abt the performance (pq). Durability and built quality aside, just wanna know has any1 done a A/B blind test and can really tell the diff in pq. If there is a diff then i might consider investing more in hdmi cables. If there is none then pls dont mislead noobs like me saying it does.

2)Why cant i spend more on hdmi cables when i have spent so much on AV?

BEcoz i have other things to spend on like room acoustic, pj screen and bd player that will definitely IMPROVE the overall performance. So if a branded hdmi cable is only better in durability, carrying signal for a longer distance and looks better then its not for ppl like me.

My point is if a branded hdmi cables doesnt improve pq pls dont say so bcoz it will mislead newcomers who has ALOT of other things to spend on. If it does improve the pq then pls state the brand n model and which cap palang hdmi cable did u compare with and izt a blind A/B test (did u play the same movie for the test) bcoz alot of us will appreciate it

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post Dec 24 2008, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(myqd @ Dec 24 2008, 01:42 PM)
i think to buy or not to buy a expensive branded HDMI all still come back to our own decision.The decision u make depends on either u urself can "see or feel" the different,no matter it's real or just mind trick,as long as u urself can tell the different( even it might be just ur mind trick ),and if u can afford it now,i dun see any problem why shouldnt we cant get ourself a better HDMI cable smile.gif

as for me,i was using a 10m OEM HDMI < RM200 and frankly,sometimes during the BDs playback, i do feel the PQ can be better if i change to a better HDMI cable.Recently i bought a 8m QED HDMI cost few hundred rm and i actually found it change the PQ in term of colour saturation.I know some might said it's just my mind  tongue.gif ,ok,maybe it's,but i feel more comfortable with the new cable and i'm happy with it.So if spending few hundred ringgit in a decent HT system and can make myself happy,why not,right?  biggrin.gif

i'm thinking of taking pics with AB comparison these few days,everything same setting,including the camera.I wonder if there's different in PQ,will others say that's becos when process the pics,saved and post,it will affect diff PQ to both pics ?  hmm.gif  Or can anyone enlighten me how to make it "fair" if i want to take pics for the same scene,with diff HDMI cables? Thanks in advance.  thumbup.gif
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bro if u can get some1 to help u out by swapping the cables without telling u which is which then it would be good enuf.. repeat it for 10 times n match the result.. no need take pic la.. i will believe u

 

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