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post Dec 6 2008, 01:31 PM

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so conclusion is if u need longer HDMI cable like 10m,it's better to choose GOOD HDMI then normal non-brand HDMI cable? The thing is a GOOD hdmi count on length so 10m easily cost u arround RM800-RM1000,so mind to share what's the 10m hdmi cable u guys using now ?
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post Dec 6 2008, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Dec 6 2008, 01:45 PM)
Htkaki should know it.
ya,i bought a 10m HDMI at quite affortable price from HTkaki.wonder any clear diff if replace it with a better QED hdmi cable at 7m,less then 1k. hmm.gif

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post Dec 6 2008, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(mys_terious @ Dec 6 2008, 05:27 PM)
mine i think 9m jin biru
apa itu 9m jin biru ? u mean brand is "jin biru" @ 9m? good kah? hmm.gif

btw,apart from future shop,can anyone recommend some online shop selling cables and can ship to M'sia ? ( too bad amazon cant ) sad.gif

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post Dec 6 2008, 05:51 PM

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i'm thinking of getting this QED hdmi 7m,now offer with shipping arround $60 pound,any advice? ( what's the rate today huh? )

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post Dec 7 2008, 11:54 AM

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ok,just to confirm,the conclusion is even HDMI cable at longer length,say 10m or more,as long as it doesnt show problem like image snow or purple video, video flashing, white frames etc,the cable consider PERFECT ? If yes,that means even u change to better quality cable which cost 5-10 times more,it wont improve the PQ,not even in brightness,contrast..... ? hmm.gif
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post Dec 7 2008, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 7 2008, 02:03 PM)
by asking this question, means you don't understand the difference between digital and analog.
no point to go further until we understand what is digital and analog signal concept..  smile.gif  cheers!
frankly,i dun understand,that's why i ask smile.gif

...anyway,juz curious,then why all those manufacturers who make cables for QED,VDH,IXOS,CHORD still make different class/price of hdmi cables? Only market strategi ? Are they so bodoh to think all the ppl using hdmi are bodoh ? brows.gif

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post Dec 8 2008, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Dec 8 2008, 11:59 AM)
Callmevil, we've been discussing this over and over again all through the pages. Nobody even bothered to read them, hence the same discussion keep coming back. I think we can close this thread, everybody can always refer through the pages. biggrin.gif
hehe,sorry sorry boss tongue.gif juz read the previous posts till page 7,most answers are "digital is digital,as long as the signal can get through properly,there's no diff in PQ " smile.gif .

just curious,mind to share what's the hdmi cable u guys using now,the one come free with the BD player ? or < RM100 one ?
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post Dec 8 2008, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(callmevil @ Dec 8 2008, 07:27 PM)
LOL thats what u call 'FAIL' bro!
lol my answer went well above and beyond 'digital is digital' though myqd smile.gif haha
hehe,but my limited knowledge can only understand up to "digital is digital" lor tongue.gif

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post Dec 9 2008, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Dec 9 2008, 08:22 AM)
myqd, as for my case the Audioquest HDMI cable, Giraffe and was it the wireword HDMI cable (sorry cant remember as have quite a number of HDMI cables before that) do not outperform those OEM Panasonic HDMI cable. Even I do not find any difference between these branded with those freebie HDMI cable (Pioneer) and the 5m made in China cable (REM) that I bought. No audible differences.
thanks Htkaki for the reply,very "sincere and warm" reply i must say tongue.gif


QUOTE(timothyy @ Dec 9 2008, 10:06 AM)
I am using a RM30 got from Lelong.com HDMI cable from my PS3 to my Denon Amp.
Still having the same fun like previously.
Glad to know u're having fun and thanks for sharing the price of ur hdmi cable ya thumbup.gif anyone else mind to share ? As for myself,i'm using Panasonic hdmi(white colour,bought arr RM170 from Brunei) from PS3 > 876.And from 876 > AE900,i'm using a 10m hdmi from htkaki (thanks again biggrin.gif ) cost arr same price with my pana hdmi if not mistaken.
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post Dec 10 2008, 07:45 PM

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wow,that's quite bad actually,so is that becos of the cables? Maybe should try with other cables like componet or composite then only know...
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post Dec 11 2008, 06:55 PM

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if what most sifus here are correct,it wont be any diff esp at 2m.....better prepare some kind shields b4 kena tembak,hehehe rclxm9.gif
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post Dec 11 2008, 07:22 PM

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hehe,no worry la,sifus here wont be so "cruel" one,just kidding icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 13 2008, 01:29 PM

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ok,below are 2 screenshot taken using 2 different HDMI cables,one "MP Acoustic( RM35 )" and the other " Panasonic RP-CDHG15 ( RM170,maybe kena potong:P)".Both picture taken with same camera/setting/time/place/scene,original pic without processing,reduce size in CS3 for posting.

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i'm sure there're some kind of compression and lost in quality during the process of "reduce size,web hosting" but both using excactly same methob for above action,no a proper serious comparison,just corious to know the result,guess which one by which cable? Or no different at all? tongue.gif
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post Dec 13 2008, 05:02 PM

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thanks ar188,i'm using the same AE900 like urs tongue.gif

Both pics taken without grey card but with 40D,mount on tripod,shoot in RAW at iso100,F4.5,speed < 1sec and AWB.Tripod was not move at same location and lighting condition everything same.I din adjust the WB when open in CS3,just cropped and resize.I found both pics the white part wash out.One thing i found quite hard is when u try to pause the scene(maybe only in PS3?),the still image is not "sharp" compare to the when the playback the movie.That lost a lot of details from the original pics.

For me,the difference in both pics is on the 2nd pic,the brightness looks a bit high,can see more details on the black portion and the contrast is good.The advantage is even the brightness is higher,the black portion still doesnt looks too "grey",almost same compare to 1st pic.The wash out on the "white" portion maybe becos of the contrast was setting a bit too high.( i'm using "cinema 3",contrast at +10 and brightness at -8 ). Bro arr188,mind to share which mode u normally use and what's the setting? U got Happy Feet US version too?

However,the different only can be seen after taking the pics and do comparison like above.When in movie playback i cant really tell the different.Hopefully can pinjam someone 1k HDMI cable? tongue.gif

below is another pic taken with Pana HDMI,i adjust WB a bit with the RAW pic tongue.gif

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post Dec 14 2008, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 13 2008, 06:02 PM)
myqd.. off topic, our AE900 can accomodate any firmware updates ar? hehe!
hehe,our panny like old men oledi,still can makan,but never can take too spicy 1080p's food tongue.gif U can try to hack the firmware to enable pure 1080p (not downscale to 720p),make sure u let me know only,otherwise panny jepun tau sure they are at ur door step tomolo biggrin.gif
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post Dec 15 2008, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(iman_210 @ Dec 14 2008, 07:34 PM)
i can c that the contrast bit too strong on top part and below pic looks more natural. same length for both HDMI cables?
ya,same length,2m smile.gif


QUOTE(htkaki @ Dec 14 2008, 10:39 PM)
not forgetting to support deep colour too.
so the cheapo old version HDMI 1.2,1.3 may not support deep colour? shocking.gif

*** OK,OT a bit,so anyone with USED good quality longer HDMI cable,arround 7-8 meters,prefer brand like Audioquest or QED,if u want to sell off,pls PM me,thanks. thumbup.gif

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post Dec 19 2008, 06:28 PM

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supra should be ok,at least is a known brand tongue.gif

me just get myself a QED HDMI-P 8m,looks good,not sure it will perform as good as its look tongue.gif ( tomolo my DENN HDMI 10m should be retire/on sale liaw smile.gif )
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post Dec 19 2008, 06:39 PM

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QED on sale now brows.gif

http://www.futureshop.co.uk/qed-new-perfor...-7m-p-1926.html

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post Dec 20 2008, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(BeastX @ Dec 20 2008, 06:56 AM)
Digital signal.. 1 or 0... either the cable works or don't, copper/gold/silver.. all conduct electricity. If 1 dollar cable or 100 dollar cable works the same, which would you rather part your money on?.
maybe it's just my mind trying to convince me,my 1st impression for QED HDMI-P 8m VS previous DENN 10m HDMI,there's definately some different,i see the colour is more saturated on QED,brightness/contrast/sharpness didnt notice any much different,maybe need to change spectacle tongue.gif .

Dun shoot,i'm just getting the best i can afford now. tongue.gif
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post Dec 21 2008, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 21 2008, 10:52 AM)
it's always good to get decent cables.. if only for it's decent materials used and construction and physical ruggedness/long lastingness.
as mention before, digital cables do not have the ability to change the color/video characteristics of the video digital signal, only the ability to corrupt it in very abrupt manner flashes of white frames/sparklies purple video etc....
but of coz, this is engineering point of view,
subjectively people feel differently.. even blind A/B test with the same audio or video material can produce different remarks or choices...
ya,i agreed with u.Like u mentioned in another thread " Mind tricks? Doesn't matter, it makes me happy " thumbup.gif

Maybe i should take some pics for AB comparison like the other day see how. smile.gif

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