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SUSMatrix
post Jan 7 2008, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(Ngto @ Nov 1 2007, 08:49 PM)
Haha not that bad lah. biggrin.gif . Only if really extremely bad quality, or very long length, then no image.

If you are buying just 2 meter length cap ayam cable it shouldn't have any problem at all. Maybe can even last longer than your TV. Just don't damage the cable especially the connection ends that's all.  If you buy longer than 3m then better get better quality ones.

Don't worry, even if no image after few years can buy another cheap one. By that time even very expensive ones already become cheap. So save a lot of money in long run. Price difference now between cheap cable and very expensive cable can be >5 times the price.

Most important is both Cheap and Expensive cable also give the same image quality.
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I agreed. After all, this is digital cable,not analog,it's just zero's and one's, should be same image quality. Like those free HDMI cable that comes with HDMI DVD players...sure all cheap cables.

2 years down the road, the cables will be much cheaper, no need to worry.

If somebody do a blind test with a cheap and expensive HDMI cable on the exact same system....i doubt anyone here can tell the difference..

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post Jan 14 2008, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(timothyy @ Jan 8 2008, 11:35 PM)
Sure no diff la. Digital cable is digital cable.
Guys... guys... unless your HDMI cable is 20m long (like mine) then the quality of the cable is important... but a mere 1.5m long... close eye also can la.

It is not because what... just that at 20m, if lousy one, the cable might not be connected properly (happened to my S Video) and then, you will waste your money.
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I think this is excellent advice. Buy high quality cable only if u need long cables!

Digital is digital, there is no difference in quality unless there's a break in the cable or loss of signal over long distance.
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post Dec 14 2008, 11:32 PM

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Just to share.

I run a cheap RM70 5m HDMI cable from PC to my Sharp Aquas LCD( non FullHD)..it passes audio and video from my ATI 4850.....my Benq 22" monitor uses DVI from the same PC.

So far, the Sharp is looking great...in fact much better than the Benq monitor despite the Sharp is only 1360 x768 (lower resolution) compared to the Benq's 1680 x 1050!!

I guess the Sharp is simply superior product...so even a longer HDMI cable still doesn't affects a good output.

I can't say whether an expensive HDMI cable will be better....but a better display is more important than expensive cables!!!

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post Dec 15 2008, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Dec 15 2008, 11:48 AM)
im convinced vga has better picture quality output. higher bandwidth and frequency.
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VGA can't support resolution like 720p, 1080i, 1080p etc. Only native resolution.

in terms of image quality, almost the same though, as long as the display is of good quality, but i still prefer digital...HDMI can deliver sound and video in one cable...save a lot of mess!!!
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post Dec 15 2008, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Dec 15 2008, 12:15 PM)
"VGA can't support resolution like 720p, 1080i, 1080p etc. Only native resolution."

not really
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Are u sure? Can show some example to share? Well,at least my sharp LCD can't.
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post Dec 21 2008, 10:10 PM

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I believe in cheap cables, it works very well for me.

Here, read this:

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstatio...=828972#M828972

IMO, if you are running < 10m, you'll do fine for HDMI. I'm running a 5m cheap HDMI and it looks (and sounds) great. Now i'm looking for a cheap 5m optical cable...anyone got one?

btw, i remember i have a cheap optical and an expensive one i bought for my old xbox. Both was about 1m long. There's no difference at all when the sound comes out of my HT system!!

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post Dec 23 2008, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(nadky @ Dec 22 2008, 09:22 PM)
Just think about this, if you are a businessman, do you 1st invest a lot of money in research, manufacture and sell something that does not has demand? If expensive HDMI cable does not improve PQ and AQ I believe all cable manufacturers would not have their flagship cables.

There are always people who can afford expensive cable, to them, maybe 1k investment to have PQ increase by 10% would worth the money while to some others, it's totally a waste of money. So, it's subjective and whether you think you would want to spend that kind of money.
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Ahh...that is not quite correct. All these luxurious thing are rather artificial demand created to sell to people. That's how business in the 21st century works. Like those MLM companies, they'll convince you that you'll die tomorrow if you don't consume their products. There's a lot of things in this world no one actually needs, but big companies thought up of the idea, dump in heavy investment on promotion to brainwash people to think you need it. Well, for most part, you don't.

Coming back to the topic, i still holds that digital is either it works or it don't. Nothing to affect picture quality. Sure, signals are still being sent as analog, but since it is view as digital format, example, where a high pulse exceeding upper limit regconized as '0' and a low pulse regconized as '1' and everything else in between are just thrown out as errors and will be asked for re-sent. So if you have a bad cable, there'll probably be loads of re-sending and thus affecting ur image with jittery or or some other artifacts which is immediately regconized.

And yes, i do agreed for long cable exceeding certain limit, a high quality cable is better as the risk of sending error is lower, but for most cases, most people HDMI cables will not exceed 3ft...so paying a few hundred bucks for 3 foot Monster cable is a monstrous joke.

Hey, i'm running on 5m HDMI and it works just fine, and i think i read somewhere the limit is 25m b4 u can see benefits of expensive cables.

Here's some good read

No difference at 13ft cable.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology...de/4235717.html

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None of our editors could tell the difference. The fact is, HDMI is digital, meaning you either get the feed or you don’t. High prices and gimmicks like gold-plating don’t affect 1s and 0s. Our advice: Purchase your wiring online for cheap, and use the saved money to upgrade to a larger flat screen.
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Ultimate 50ft cable test - with a very good unbiased conclusion.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/hdmi-cable-batt...-iii-282725.php


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      For the love of God, what does it all mean???
      I have to say I for one have learned a few things with all of this testing, and I hope you have too. The way I see it:

      • It never pays to buy a Monster cable first. It doesn't even make sense to buy the "marked down" $50 cable you can buy if you don't want Monster. Go online, order your cables, and wait.

      • Even if you're going for the long haul, try a cheaper cable from a reliable vendor first. Monoprice isn't the only one. During this process I've spoken with good people at FireFold, DataPro International, and others, and tested an assortment of discount products, with no noticeable problems. I am confident that, if a vendor has a solid return policy and satisfaction guarantee, you should feel free to buy even a super-long cable from a discount house. In the case of my 50-footer noise, a quick return would have been all that was required.

      • Monster has a point about future-proofing. I have no doubt, given our testing, that Monster cables can outperform other cables in video formats that are not yet in use. What does this mean for a consumer? Does it make sense to spend $300 now on a 50-foot cable, assuming you will spend thousands to upgrade all of your video equipment around it in the next few years? Logic dictates that the answer is no.

      • The only people who should buy Monster cable are people who light cigars with Benjamins. Fortunately for Monster, there are plenty of those people. They're not even suckers, they are just rich as hell, and want the best. This testing did not prove that Monster is not the best. It just proved that the best is, for the most part, unnecessary.

      This was not the easiest task to undertake, and I appreciate everyone who helped out with encouragement, tips, wisdom and wild speculation. I hope it was both entertaining and educational. For me, if I never look at another cable it will be too soon.
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post Feb 10 2009, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Feb 10 2009, 01:01 AM)
recently i've bought a sharp aquos 32" and i was promised to be given original sharp hdmi cable as extras..
while they failed to find it, the boss gave us other brand which i think is a malaysian brand HDMI cable..
it is called Cool Ray and the boss claimed that it was made by hitachi factory which is eventually better than the sharp ori.. so should i insist on sharp hdmi or just take this cool ray?
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If it just a short short 1.5M cable, cheap brand also ok, heck even cheap 5M HDMI cable i am using also ok. But the problem is the seller is ripping u off. promised branded stuff and then rip u off with el-cheapo stuff. If the item is stated in ur bill clearly, then u can demand it from him, if not, too bad, just take the cheap cable and never buy from him again.

 

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