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post Nov 26 2018, 02:11 AM

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QUOTE(crimosnx7 @ Nov 12 2018, 12:50 PM)
hmmm...at Malaysia not very much people trade forex.
dont ever think you could make a fortune @ forex trading in the 1st 2 years.

ive been trading 3 years..burned multiple accounts (loss 8K USD)
1st year pure loss
2nd year ive started to go for classes n lessons, but still i make losses most of the time (emotional at times)
3rd year only i become a stable trader(not profitable yet)

Ive learnt in a hard way to become independent
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Long time I never browse here.
Don't trade Forex. Switch to crypto, it's much easier.

I give u one example why small guys can't make it.

Assume u can grow 5% monthly in account, u expect like RM 10k per month, so you'll need 200k RM or 50k USD account.
Small guys are way too undercapitalized.
Trying to use 500usd to earn 5000usd. Very fast account burn in a few months time.

Second big problem is like this, Forex is super duper ultra manipulative. Besides TA crap, I have access to some data where I get to see other things that you guys don't have. What we see as candles are only price time relationship. Normal traders don't get to see the value of transaction behind it. It's like you fish with normal fishing rods. Bank traders fish with sonar equipment.........

My accuracy is to extent that when it's ranging, I can pinpoint 2 points that when price touches there it will U turn or make big reversals.
Even with that it's hard to be accurate.

Why is it like that ?
Banks wanted to fill their big volume orders, maybe at 2 certain price point when ranging. Within 300-400pips price point only 2 levels are of utmost importance. The rest is just rubbish, noises.

If I take a piece of boxed math paper, I mark down a few important levels, then I could have many many combinations. Not only those bounce is here therefore it's a good support, but it may break this support to a lower one, then next week it goes back up again. It's like I want to fill 1.41 price. The price whacks above this week(+120pips) next week below(-100pips), next week above then continue with real move.

It's whacking like mad to getting filled. Sometimes it's supposed to go up, but haven't fill enough, so bankers play with it. If you can fill lower and earn more will U do it ?? Definitely will.
So bankers don't even know how low they can go.

- Some of the levels broken today, then bankers push it up for another 5 days, evidently with GU. Later drop it like a hammer. It's not TA is not working, it's price is being manipulated.

- Sometimes they could slowly push up a currency to fit in to the NFP news. Currencies are managed to move within 1.2-2% daily. This Friday NFP they already know the results. So they sometimes push it slowly from Tuesday to Thursday only to drop it on Friday to prevent things triggering other things.

And I can tell u this truth because I saw bank Traders said this. Last time before 2008, euro/pounds/yen or mainly USD pair were moving like 200-300pips daily. During that time it's so much easier to daytrade. Either it break during London, if not real move comes during US open. Just follow engulfing candle. If wrong just martingale go the other side. Since the daily movement is 200pip, losing 30pip is nothing cus risk to reward is great

Now the daily pip range becomes 60-70pip range.
Minus the volatile stop hunting candles, u are left with 50pips. Minus confirmation candle, left 35pips.
Minus spread 2pips, minus slippage......u get my point. The daily volatility has reduced tremendously that it's impossible to day trade, plus spreads dint go smaller. Risk to reward ratio is pretty much shitty

Another factor that TA traders don't know is that central banks has been at war with each other ever since 2009. Before that they already 'agreed' behind to let their own currency devalue or evaluate. Like since Bush went up, he devaluate USD, so euro appreciate like mad for 6years. Just long euro for 6years can retire d. Now they like angry neighbors.
This month devaluate, next month appreciate. Later Brexit drama, later this and that, and as China becomes stronger, the trade volume on USD becomes lesser. USD volume drop becomes daily movement becomes lesser.


Day trade = gamble.

Don't waste your time on the most manipulative unfair game there is. Why bother try to prove yourself at a so high difficulty level game.

Even buying dips on stock market is easier. (Some counters dip a few percent every few days)

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post Nov 26 2018, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(Goodboy92 @ Nov 26 2018, 09:31 AM)
Agree with some of your point and cant agree with some of your point as i have no prove of these , but i can believe they do happen

Crypto was just an alternative to trade ,there are so many more , FOREX was the hardest i think in this game ( atleast a popular one )

Yes , daily movement of a market was important , forex really move very little compare to others , not only that but it has intention to take your SL out More than others , and some professional has said no matter who you are , your win rate drop with forex.

I would like to know what you have seen that we cant seen or access , i think they can see all the order , but you can pin point 2 exact price was out of my expectation , if you say 10 time you can get it right 2 -4 time still ok , if you can get it right more than 7time then it was very good.

Yes , even with 70% accuracy of knowing where price going , the Risk Reward still not great consider 2pips spread which a real broker need less than 1pips , also it has goes down to how you manage that determine you to be a profitable trader , i have a 70% predictability system now , but i still failed , why ?

1 - i cant be on the screen all the time
2- some signal dont provide entry
( example i expect price goes down , it just dint reach my entry price before continue down )
3 - it dint reach my TP
( i expect price goes down , it dint goes down enough to reach my target )
4. streak of losses , it happen and i am still a loser till now.

Can i know what are you doing right now? and how was the performance?
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so far i've found only 2 consistent things over these few years
i'm not gonna reveal everything for free because i paid a lot of money, time and effort into it.

i can give you hints, if you are lucky and hardworking enough maybe u can find it.

1. there are certain time of the day which will get retested on the following day, price will gyrate or test there before continue its movement to where it wanna go. u draw that level today, tomorrow price will love that level before moving on
2. the transacted value of every engulfing candle is different, why this is important ?? for high probability trades of course (some big orders need to get filled, and bank traders will push to that level for many days to fill it. after getting enough price will move away from there, so there's the point where risk vs reward is the highest, at reversals)

why it's so popular ?? because brokers knew our failure odds, and keep on spending marketing on it.
it's not that it's easily profitable for traders. it's very profitable for brokers to find waterfish.


im trading crypto now, can make 15-20% without so much of BS that forex trader faces.

The harshest truth is that for any financial sectors, you need to be very good it to be profitable. being mediocre alone doesnt cut it.
the amount of money you earn is scalable with capital.
TA is just 30%, the rest is money management, understanding of the market and its participants, understanding of manipulations (insider knowledge).


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you wanna learn real useful stuff, close all of your TA indicators, dont waste any more time on it. i've gone through 3,000 indicators. price get manipulated, your indicator follows suit to bullshit you.
learn how that particular market works, why price move the way it is, what advantages/disadvantages you have over the big guys.
then you will see the bigger picture.

i've followed a few sifu over the years. one of them admit to me his system worked for a couple of months, then after that couldnt work (his system was based on ranging markets). one of my sifu has a group of trader friends. like they will chip in money and send one of them to learn from whatever Forex Guru from singapore (like Adam Khoo that type of classes, RM 5k per class). so their group had like 15 over classes from those sifu. (which you need to spend like near to 100k it you wanted to attend all of them)
they had plenty of their secret systems. but my sifu and their group ppl all gone back to traditional business now.
i had all their books, read them, conclusion is when they trade it market was moving well. like way back then, before 2008.
euro in particular had move up 6years in a row. you put 200MA on 4 hours chart, everytime touch it just go long and you could make money easily. their systems all worked very well back then.

my point is that even that guru revealed 100% to you his sytem that made him a millionaire, it doesnt mean it will work now because markets have changed (movement not as volatile and easy like last time). one of the guru got sued by his students, not bluffing u. *** i used to be an idiot to think that if i had their magical system i will make lots of money ***

TA is basically a basic degree for a job. once you get the job, you realize that your degree is useless and not applicable anymore. TA gets you to a 50% win rate is still gambling odds. then you need to refine, retune to 80-90% win rate. and TA cant bring you to that accuracy.


i hope that someone did present this truth to me back then. then i wont waste so much of effort into it.
anyway you cant become king of the jungle just by reading many books about jungle and therefore you think you are Tarzan.

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post Nov 26 2018, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(Goodboy92 @ Nov 26 2018, 12:03 PM)
Well thanks alot for info , what you mean here was that the system was not a long term proven system , i was following someone who has been 20years in this business using the same approach.

for the retest i think it happen time to time , not everyday , but most day will has some minor retest for sure , especially previous day low or close etc.
for turning point , yes it was the most profit there but not everytime we can get turning point , unless your target profit are very near and entry at resistance price where most of the time price will react abit from there.

well , money management part i dont really understand , TA tell me when to entry , when to exit , money management i just follow a set of rule when to add position size from example 1 lot to 2 lot etc after a certain amount of profit accumulated.

i never join any classes and never spend any money to learn from someone , i dont have so much money as well , and most of the are scammer.

look like you are using TA to trade as well, behaviour on each instrument was different was very true but with TA , it should work same across all market just the profitability will differ.

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those that in it for long time will tell you go daily or weekly to trade.
at weekly it's all peace and only a couple of trades per year.
not that crazy daily open 4-10 trades

there are daily retests, happens 3.5 to 4 days in a week.

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post Dec 30 2018, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Nov 26 2018, 04:35 PM)
mind asking what is your above mentioned tomorrow's number for EUR/USD? let's see if it bounce tmr.
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remember to tag me next week for the pullback zones next week.

been sent to bora for 30days anyway
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post Jan 2 2019, 05:29 PM

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when free can watch these videos, will update when i found more whats going on the other side

the other day i watched a video where a whistleblower from broker revealed how they screw traders by having triggering spikes, widen spreads and all that. they have another trader that his job is to widen spread when you enter, then give long spikes to trigger your stop loss. cant find it.

their day job is to scalp pips from you




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post Oct 17 2019, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(paogeh @ Oct 17 2019, 07:29 PM)
I know u guys are waiting

..

Today , my acc got a call from MR Margin Call
Losses today usd72k
Total net 2019 .loss usd40k
My problem:
1. Not  able to trAnsfer $ fast enought.
2. Limited by bigpay daily usd5k .
3. Etrade , i still have usd10k, take about  a week to withdraw back
4. Most credit card not able to fund forex.
5. Selling my asnb fund 6digit , take time as well. Limitef by #2.
6. Selling my other hard asset, such as gold coins . 6 diggit as well. Limited by #2 .
7. I should exits all when losses are small.  But i believe i can hold

All in all, its good to take a break .

This week, im number3 on cmk margin call users

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walao bro.....sweat i look at your account, dont throw your whole life into a single trade.
your problems are not those 7, but you gamble your way by topping funds, martingale too much.

dont use fundamental as a trade direction, without calculating the volatility in it.
it just need to spike or go against you for 3 straight days and you're gone d.

Dont have vengeful trade as well.
Think of your family first, you will trash whole family into financial ruins if you continue like that


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post Oct 20 2019, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(gasing @ Oct 20 2019, 12:58 AM)
Nope, I only trade EU pair and I have multiple long from 1.095 to 1.087 ready for swing trade.
I sad now because never trailing profit  cry.gif

Alot of traders are in short because it is in downtrend for the past 1-2 years but fail to realise that a pullback can always be sharp and goes up 200-300 pips.
Martingale is workable but sufficient capital** for the pullback is needed as well.

Sharing to you all about the EU cycle which I think is very interesting based on the cycle breakdown. It was meant to rally till 1.2 imho (close to current's price).

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Wow this chart is super long term. Way back 30years
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QUOTE(gasing @ Oct 20 2019, 12:58 AM)
Nope, I only trade EU pair and I have multiple long from 1.095 to 1.087 ready for swing trade.
I sad now because never trailing profit  cry.gif

Alot of traders are in short because it is in downtrend for the past 1-2 years but fail to realise that a pullback can always be sharp and goes up 200-300 pips.
Martingale is workable but sufficient capital** for the pullback is needed as well.

Sharing to you all about the EU cycle which I think is very interesting based on the cycle breakdown. It was meant to rally till 1.2 imho (close to current's price).

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Wow this chart is super long term. Way back 30years.

But there was no euro back then LOL
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post Oct 23 2019, 03:18 PM

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erm, here no ppl trade DOW 30 ??

whacks like mad, with daily range min 120-250pips

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post Oct 23 2019, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Oct 23 2019, 03:28 PM)
Tered topic name is forex.
You ask people got trade dow or no...
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DOW is correlated with YEN so hahahahhaahhaha


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QUOTE(paogeh @ Oct 24 2019, 09:05 AM)
i guess FX used least of $ --- becos of the lebverage , 1:500 ......
easier to make profit == options  .
why  ? 
malaysia got options ?
i like FX, becos, even when u;re wrong, u can add fund to hold the line till the price change to your favor .
but others, not so easy , right ?
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you can only hold the line when you have unlimited money or hedge it very early when you realize it turn against you.

if you really like to hold the line, i suggest you come to DOW JONES index and hold short for a year.
it's at monthly high near to 27,000 points.

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post Oct 26 2019, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(cmk96 @ Oct 26 2019, 12:07 PM)
Have you made profit from Dow so far?

Short for a year? Thats plenty of swaps charges.
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Scalp some from Dow.
Swap a day about 1pip but volatility wise is 150pips

I predict gonna drop in a few months time.

Damn thing damn manipulative. Affected by yen, trump headlines.
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 30 2019, 03:34 PM)
friend lost half a million trading options when trump crashed crude from about $75 to $45. He said most of the time very easy collect premiums only... lol
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option's basic function is you sell bets that are very hard to hit. but the payout is humongous (maybe 50x or 100x of the premium you take in)
is like picking up nickels on the rail way track.
you may profit until one stage where the train hits you and you become homeless.

its like risking $100 to collect $2 of premium......


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post Nov 1 2019, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(paogeh @ Oct 30 2019, 02:02 PM)
another questions pop up :
we always see ppl invest in stock , eg: Warren Buffet .
Ppl use this strategy to hold as long as possible to generate wealth .
Basically , buy blue chip and collect dividen forever .
when die , passed the blue chip to next kin .
wealth being built this way .

However , we dun hear such thing in FX , or options , etc .
how come ?

In theory , FX should amplify the wealth effect like the stock do .
in reality , i cant find any.

i can think off , carry trade in FX to collect swap daily . But this strategy is dead after 2008.
is it possible to build wealth in FX similar like KLSE/stock/blue chip/divien stock?
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on warren buffet, what you said is on the surface only.

1. Warren buffet has an insurance company for 52years, and he use those premium paid by customer to buy and collect dividends. (insurance company has $115 billion, may read here : https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/02/22/w...-a-52-yea.aspx)
basically he's using OPM (other ppl money) to grow

2. his dad is one of the politicians. of course this gives him an edge in "insider info"
why would i make this conclusion ??
many of his decisions in buy those companies are winners (some of which are winners in government policy change) must have some sort of magical crystal balls

3. his dad owns a small stocks brokerage firm.
this also gives edge because the know the orders (ahem can do a lot of scalping back at those days) whistling.gif
or when the owner of the stocks dump before earning season comes you already know bad report is coming......
or knowing some back-end merger between companies also can huat d


so it isnt as simple as buy stocks and become FXXKING RICH

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QUOTE(hft @ Nov 3 2019, 05:42 PM)
Another gambling round tomorrow. My first trade day for November 2019 as well. Good luck to all.
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im already down 600pips from shorting DOW.
CB pamp non stop since Thursday.

luckily BTC and others there cover more than half of losses d

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QUOTE(mrbigggyyy @ Nov 4 2019, 07:06 PM)
rip bro.. SL at where?
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nearly close it at breakeven then it pumped straight for 2 days.

no SL, only cut loss / pamp money.
my account can tahan another 2000pips against me.
sweat.....looks like have to hold until December d


weekly chart, got 5 tops still dont wanna collapse !!!

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