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Hansel
post Oct 17 2019, 07:01 AM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 17 2019, 06:31 AM)
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Ok. See if there are any other countries by other investors here,...

So, at this moment, you would be transferring in USD from your forex broker's bank acct in The United States to our local Msian acct and it gets converted into MYR here when it drops into your acct here, right ?
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post Oct 17 2019, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(cmk96 @ Oct 17 2019, 10:05 AM)
Same thing goes to bank. You want inform BNM that you made deposit/withdrawal from forex broker?  sweat.gif

Getting the money is harder than declaring tax. Show them your yearly statement. Easy.

I know some guys here are singaporean. Or PR.

Of course... Having an offshore account has its advantage.

Btw... have you declare forex income before to LHDN?  biggrin.gif
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Well,... one does not need to be a Singaporean to have offshore accts. An international financial hub would welcome bank account-opening with the right procedures.

I am not a Singaporean, nor a PR.

I am offering help on how to retrieve funds legally and correctly back to the country within premises of wire-transfers.

Source of funds and declaration would be a totally separate issue. So, how do you declare your forex income then ?


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post Oct 17 2019, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(TradeMinim @ Oct 17 2019, 09:41 AM)
Yes but you would have a harder time explaining to tax doh.gif
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Bro,... I would like to recommend that you attempt one problem at a time.

First, we try to decide correctly how to bring our funds back. You do not need to use my way. If cmk's way is good, use his.

Then after you managed to bring back the funds, then you think abt the next problem. It's worse if you can't even bring your funds back to the country.
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post Oct 17 2019, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(hft @ Oct 17 2019, 12:17 PM)
Yeah, why worry about tax. It's free money after all, market is huge just need to set good $$$ trap. Government take some revenue and we enjoy the rest.
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 17 2019, 12:21 PM)
to offshore a/c...almost never bring $ back... may do a transfer this year, looking at using transferwise
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Tq bros,... thumbsup.gif

The world is complicated today, the more options we have, the stronger will our positions be.

On our part, we do our best to follow the rules of the different jurisdictions to our best possible ability.

I would also like to say here : the amount of time and effort to THINK and to READ , and to LEARN to follow the rules also consume costs today. IN short, the saying : want to follow rules also very hard today,.... not to say don't want to follow,...

So,... who will reimburse out time and effort here to follow these rules ?

Well,... that's how I look at things,..
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post Oct 17 2019, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(hft @ Oct 17 2019, 12:54 PM)
In short, you are doing legal trade so ensure the money get to you legal way. Enjoy the money, nothing to hide.
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 17 2019, 01:10 PM)
I have my papers so no problem... just keeping offshore because it's so difficult sending out again... wink.gif
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Ok bros,... tq for reverting,... thumbsup.gif
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post Oct 23 2019, 06:16 AM

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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Oct 22 2019, 07:16 PM)
limit: when price touch, execute at that price or better.
stop: when price touch, execute at market price.
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Pertaining to the 'stop' execution, when price touches, that would be mkt price at that moment, right ? Why wouldn't a buyer or a seller want a 'better' price if possible ?
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post Nov 3 2019, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Nov 2 2019, 10:02 AM)
I'm sure a lot of people get rich in fx but stay quiet only...Malaysia stock market a lot of insiders and syndicates trading. Normal people can still get rich but takes long time...a lot fail stay quiet only you don't hear about. Also last time can only trade stocks...

My understanding is the buy n hold forever trend is changing. Now commercial trading people long time hold is 3-6 months. Retail people still holding on to old thinking hold forever get high dividend lah...

You see cmk96 & hft their ea can double account in 3-6 months, holding good old stocks is very difficult to achieve this...target small 0.7% per day, in 100 days double your risk amount liao

Most people in FX broke because high leverage, small account, trade cfd against MM...

Not to discouraged you from stocks, it's good to diversify a bit, best to combine with a hedging strategy so to preserve capital and reap benefits from dividend.
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I think in investing, we need to see the timespan too. One who made money within a short timespan may not be the best measurement to define Best Investment.

I was a forex player, in the form of Carry Trade. I had to cut lost after holding for a few years, but in the early years when I first 'invested', I kept making money from premiums earned due to knock-outs.

I invested into strong Term Deposits which yielded me 11%, 12% int rates in Aussie Banks but such returns have disappeared today.

I invested into Canadian ctrs which PAY MONTHLY DIVIDENDS, but those ctrs' dividend amts dropped after a few years. I recently divested ont restaurant ctr in the TSX which dropped to $10+ only, last I heard...

I can call out more experiences,... BUT,.. I would like to say that I continue to invest into SG REITs today. But well,.... First REIT is also risky today,... okay... holding forever is not possible anymore ! The word forever is not logical anymore.


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post Nov 3 2019, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(paogeh @ Nov 3 2019, 03:10 PM)
Thank you hansel for sharing.

Investment.trading really not easy.

Currently do u still carry trade? Or fx ?

Any good investment to recomend ?
Side notes, almost all my friends.collegue invest.trade klse stock.
Again, got earn.lose.
Some claim can get insider news etc. But not always.
Making $ seems hard.
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You are welcome, bro,...

Today, Carry Trade is not possible anymore because all the developed mkt currencies are having low deposit rates. There is no more opportunities from where we can earn from differential rates. Even if we take up positions, it's only for purposes of 'direct' betting into currency pairs.

Recently, I noticed the pair AUDJPY seems to be rising,... but we never know, at any particular time, the wave may just turn. Hence, we must have a good stop-loss, just in case.

I'm afraid I do not invest into the KLSE. I focus hard onto the SGX, and have strong interests onto the HKeX, TSX and ASX.
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post Nov 3 2019, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Nov 3 2019, 04:25 PM)
i have some prejudice against reits... biggrin.gif

mandatory distribution can put it at risk during downturns...potential for belly up is high. To be fair i never investigate them fully so i really know nothing about reits... sweat.gif  its just something i don't want to touch...
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Tq for your comments here, bro,.... well, after the 2007/8 GFC, the Monetary Authority of Sgp (MAS) has put in strong steps to ensure the survivability of REITs in the event of another downturn. REIT mgrs themselves have also done many things to ensure they can continue to service the loans if a recession hits.

So,... we will see,... see if the MAS is right this time.
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post Nov 3 2019, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Nov 3 2019, 04:01 PM)

i had public mutual funds >15yrs...liquidated all last year... been topping up 2 foreign stocks >15yrs giving dividend yield 5-6% after tax, but these have lost significant value because of holding and not trading it out sooner, hence my view of not holding on banking of dividend forever...
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Yeah bro,... looks like we need to monitor continuously,... I have the same thinking too.

On my part,... I held one REIT in the SGX since 2006,... it was doing really well till the sponsor started to give it problems. This REIT survived in my portfolio for 11 years before I started divesting it.

But I must too that there are REITs in the SGX that has survived and been doing well till today since it first listed.
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post Nov 4 2019, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(paogeh @ Nov 4 2019, 12:02 AM)
Hansel,

u live in Singapore ? As u invest in SGX  + REITS.
I  used to invest in STAREIT ,  get good dividen , didnt make much from capital , only dividen from holding a few years .
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My residence is in Msia, bro,.. yes, very much into the SGX now,...
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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Nov 6 2019, 07:57 AM)
There might be a chance to trade +ve carry by shorting eurusd.
Paogeh take note lol.
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Hi,.. I would prefer to have +ve carry from a Long Position. Any recommendations pls ?
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post Nov 6 2019, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Nov 6 2019, 12:18 PM)
why does it matter if it is a long or short position?
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It's okay,... I'll go with my private banker !
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Nov 6 2019, 05:28 PM)
Some ppl want their cake and eat it mah... biggrin.gif

So just constraint pairing n direction lor... anyways gladly pay swaps for real gains.
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Pairing is one way, bro,... yes, just ride the profits upwards,... but at times, earning the premiums from short term knockouts can earn a lot too if you bet big. And when you are in forex,... it's always trading. Not investing at all !
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Nov 6 2019, 08:37 PM)
Some folks I know park all their monies in usd, sgd, or aud, very little myr... I guess thats investing smile.gif
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Ohh,.... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

To me, that's like holding RM,... biggrin.gif ,... only in different forms...

I'm one of the persons as you said.
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post Nov 19 2019, 02:51 AM

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Bros,... just sharing here :-

I am a private banking client. My RM would ask me out regularly to chat or to buy her dinner.

Fulltime traders (also known as professional traders) normally work in an institution trading on behalf of that institution. They get all the experiences and trainings from that institution, and risk funds from that institution, not their own money.

Some, who have gained a lot of experience, may venture out on their own after having gotten tired of and fed-up with their jobs. They are already armed with enough knowledge and experience to 'fight by themselves' out there, not to mention too, the wealth that they have accumulated to help them start !
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post Nov 19 2019, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Nov 19 2019, 08:49 AM)
friend traded forex for bank...end up vp for bursa...quit & start share agency for his kids...retire very early and just travel around enjoying life...
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Yes,... for an institution,... but if you noticed, he did not continue trading fulltime, he continued his corporate life and later started his own business. So, this is a different path from being a fulltime trader.
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post Nov 26 2019, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(paogeh @ Nov 26 2019, 10:41 AM)
womdering ,

for those FULL TIME traders,
besides active trading ,
u guys diversify your $ into others ?
stock , reits, real estate, funds , etc etc ??
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Yes bro,... ohh sorry, not a fulltime trader here,...
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post Nov 26 2019, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(paogeh @ Nov 26 2019, 02:26 PM)
FX traders are rare breed in Malaysia.

usually when ppl hear FX in malaysia , it;s always related to SCAM , etc .
which pair are u trading now ?
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I'm not holding any pair now, but am watching the AUDJPY closely, this is my favourite pair. The other problem is, interest rates are all so low now, I have no chance to do a carry at all. Some bros in my circle are asking me to take up the USDEUR pair, with the view that FEds will soon start to increase interest rates.

Hmm,... to me, this would be risky,... there is talk now that the Feds may even cut again next year.

So,... no carry trade possible now,... of course, positive carry is only a side-advantage. Earning a positive differential interest rate can never save one from a pair movement against him. If the pair runs hard against him, he will be cut down badly and may even cause him to lose everything, finally reaching mc.

Well,... I have experienced this personally,... biggrin.gif

I was busy, with other investments too, until I recalled suddenly I still had a pair-position outstanding. And,... I forgot to setup a cutloss level with my RM for this position.
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QUOTE(akib_mullen @ Nov 26 2019, 08:25 PM)
What's your analysis for audjpy yeah? My friend asking today this pair, there is pattern setup at h1. I told him maybe this pattern at h1 is just retracement for buying on dip. Daily cs with inverted hammer for few days, which is suspicious on key level, there is possibility upwards towards 75.00, even though weekly cs last week suggest to sell this week.
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I trade fundamentally, and will only dive into the Technicals when I'm ready to take position. I will use the techs to determine entry price, SL level and sometimes TP level too. After longing this pair, I aim to to ride the upward movement. I have not seen the techs for sometime.

For now, I am just watching closely the economic numbers of Aust and Japan and for the actions from the RBA and the BOJ pertaining to rate expectations, bond-purchases, and quite importantly,... speeches from the governors of both central banks. OF course, I do watch the news from the other major central banks, esp the Feds.

I would wait for Mr Kuroda's final speech for the year before deciding a good time to re-enter,.. if you noticed, the Yen has been strengthening across the board this year in spite of whatever the governer and the ministers in Tokyo said. This is a strong risk factor.

I hoped you like some fundamental analysis too.

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