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> GTX1070 stronger than 1080 Max-Q?, Testing out by using MSI and ROG (Review)

LeeroyJenkinss
post Nov 17 2017, 11:25 AM, updated 9 months ago

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Hi everyone, me and my pals just got our hands on the model with GTX1080 Max-Q and were eager to try and doing a short review and testing comparing to GTX1070.

*Disclaimer: We are only testing based on the model we bought, the statistic and figure might be different with other model.*

The model we are using :

MSI GE63VR 7RF Raider & Asus ROG Zephyrus GX501 V1


Most of the users buy top level gaming notebooks with the require spec of GeForce GTX 1070 or GTX 1080 graphics because of the greater 3D performance and gaming power. But you have to sure that you could squeeze all of the power to drive highest performance as possible, but the output will still be limited due to the design limitations.

From what we know, as a lower power version of GPU, GTX1080 Max-Q designed for slimmer gaming notebooks, but accompany with lower heat, that also made the GTX1080 Max-Q with lower performance, even a bit lower than regular GT1070 on GE63VR 7RF Raider, based on the GPU-Z clock difference, you could see the GTX1080 Max-Q lack of the Core/Memory clock around 500MHz, so it might be around 20%lower than regular GTX1080. GE63VR 7RF Raider GeForce GTX1070 manage to got highest performance at Turbo Mode

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When we got the both machine on hand, the first thing we test is the 3D performance and see how is the gaming experience, especially those with GTX1080 Max-Q design. And surely, we must also know how well the fans are doing to get the perfect performance. From what we see, the GE63/GE73VR models comes with dual Whirlwind Blade fans and 7 heat pipes become Cooler Boost 5 and the GX501 is using the Max-Q thermal design (as below) and both are doing a very fine job keeping the machine is constant temperature.


GE63VR 7RF Cooling Design

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GX501 Max-Q Cooling Design
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Furthermore, we tested the two high mobility beast with 3D Mark 11 Performance mode, GE63 got a higher score comparing to GX501, then we switch the testing to 3D Mark Fire Strike, which also got higher score around 14400, this is fairly high performance on a notebook with a regular GTX1070.

GE63VR 7RF 3D Mark 11 score

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GX501 3D Mark 11 score

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GE63VR 7RF 3D Mark Fire Strike score

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GX501 3D Mark Fire Strike score

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More test with DirectX 12 Benchmark

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As far as performance and statistic goes, GE63VR 7RF top the chart against GX501, But there are still quite less review and testing regarding the Max-Q design comparing to the standard GTX and we wish to hear more from you guys.


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post Nov 17 2017, 01:31 PM

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Good review on this. If you can include gaming benchmark, it will be much better. thumbup.gif

and it is really surprising on the results.

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LeeroyJenkinss
post Nov 17 2017, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(sai86 @ Nov 17 2017, 01:31 PM)
Good review on this. If you can include gaming benchmark, it will be much better.  thumbup.gif

and it is really surprising on the results.
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Will do more testing when we have the time, but you could see the DirectX 12 (Superposition) benchmark, it can also consider as a game benchmark.
Pharamain
post Nov 19 2017, 01:01 AM

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This is also my concern, Max-Q currently doesnt have much review and comparison. Thanks for doing this.
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post Nov 19 2017, 01:01 AM

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This is also my concern, Max-Q currently doesnt have much review and comparison. Thanks for doing this.
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post Nov 24 2017, 01:16 PM

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Thanks for the review and the comparison. really would like to know more about other comparison too, although Max-Q design is slim but it's hella expensive.
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post Nov 24 2017, 02:30 PM

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Good review. Might as well include the temperature and game benchmark.
LeeroyJenkinss
post Nov 25 2017, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(jkfoong @ Nov 24 2017, 02:30 PM)
Good review. Might as well include the temperature and game benchmark.
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thanks for the feedback, because we believe that those benchmark were sufficient to test out. anyway thanks, when we do again we will try include the game benchmark like Final fantasy and the such.
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post Dec 1 2017, 03:26 AM

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I believe the difference in form factor is at play here. Do you think you can compare this against a MSI GS series 1070 or ASUS GL series 1070 laptop? With both slim form factor, would be more interesting to see MaxQ's difference
LeeroyJenkinss
post Dec 3 2017, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(IncredibleNano @ Dec 1 2017, 03:26 AM)
I believe the difference in form factor is at play here. Do you think you can compare this against a MSI GS series 1070 or ASUS GL series 1070 laptop? With both slim form factor, would be more interesting to see MaxQ's difference
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will do, but personally I'm curious about how MaxQ fare with the standard GTX, and so we did this.
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post Dec 8 2017, 04:53 PM

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Awesome comparison!!! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Dec 11 2017, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(lucky_gal88 @ Dec 8 2017, 04:53 PM)
Awesome comparison!!! thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Thanks, glad it helps, will definitely do more
Pharamain
post Jan 10 2018, 12:06 PM

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I found this while going through youtube, although is different model but i think the info also quite beneficial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiTeFsnzReM&feature=youtu.be
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post Jan 26 2018, 01:12 PM

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sorry, i'm not really familiar with gaming laptop. but when i saw the 2 photos cooling design. totally different pipes design. may i know which cooling is better than? Asus better? or MSI better?
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post Feb 3 2018, 11:44 AM

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nvidia actually stated that they tuned down the GTX 1080 for Max-Q laptop in order to achieve the 'optimal' efficiency.

https://www.tech-critter.com/nvidia-announc...-design-gaming/


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post Feb 3 2018, 05:55 PM

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Hey, i'm not sure about ROG. But recently i joined MSI grand league on december, they're using GE 73 VR to play dota 2, csgo and overwatch. i was playing overwatch during that time, it turns out that the laptop not heaty at all. then i did some research on it, it says that Ge73 vr has a cooling system called "cooler boost 5". It has 4 exhausts, 2 fans, 7 heat pipes and 31 fan blades in this beast. lol

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post Feb 5 2018, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(lucidlts @ Feb 3 2018, 11:44 AM)
nvidia actually stated that they tuned down the GTX 1080 for Max-Q laptop in order to achieve the 'optimal' efficiency.

https://www.tech-critter.com/nvidia-announc...-design-gaming/
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Yeah, this optimal output are for people who wish to go super slim and willing to pay for it.
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post Feb 5 2018, 11:04 AM

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now that's interesting comparison. But then MAX-Q is designed for efficiency, not performance per se.
LeeroyJenkinss
post Feb 6 2018, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(WebMaster07 @ Feb 5 2018, 11:04 AM)
now that's interesting comparison. But then MAX-Q is designed for efficiency, not performance per se.
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Personally i think the efficiency cost too much compare to those slim gaming laptop (not maxQ).
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post Mar 23 2018, 02:31 PM

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imo, its the same i guess..

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