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TSendymeon
post Nov 16 2017, 04:02 PM, updated 9y ago

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Sooner or later our sensitive religious zealot will start to block games like Overwatch, Battlefront II for promoting gambling.


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EA isn't only getting a lot of flak over Battlefront II's loot crates, it's also under investigation from Belgium's gambling authority. According to VTM Nieuws, the country's gaming commission is in the midst of taking a closer look at both Battlefront II and Overwatch, since add-on boxes that have to be purchased before you can see what's inside might constitute gambling. As Commission chairman Peter Naessens points out, random loot boxes are a game of chance.

Authorities are especially concerned over the fact that the games are marketed towards children. Naessens says kids could feel forced to spend a lot of money under social pressure. EA made earning heroes easier after facing backlash, but players might still end up spending serious money on the game -- according to a computation by Star Wars Gaming, it will take at least 4,528 hours of gameplay or $2,100 to unlock all its base content.

We reached out to Blizzard to find out the developer's stance on the investigation. In a statement provided to GameSpot, EA made its position clear and insisted that Battlefront II's loot crate mechanics aren't gambling:

"Creating a fair and fun game experience is of critical importance to EA. The crate mechanics of Star Wars Battlefront II are not gambling. A player's ability to succeed in the game is not dependent on purchasing crates. Players can also earn crates through playing the game and not spending any money at all. Once obtained, players are always guaranteed to receive content that can be used in game."

If Belgium's gaming authorities decide that loot boxes constitute gambling, EA and Overwatch will have to secure a special permit if they want to continue making those games accessible in the country.


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post Nov 16 2017, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(endymeon @ Nov 16 2017, 04:02 PM)
Sooner or later our sensitive religious zealot will start to block games like Overwatch, Battlefront II for promoting gambling.
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as long as its cosmetic and does not promote $$ advantage to win, it will be fine.
in BF2 case, its not. $$ for aim assist on your ship doh.gif
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post Nov 16 2017, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(sai86 @ Nov 16 2017, 04:37 PM)
as long as its cosmetic and does not promote $$ advantage to win, it will be fine.
in BF2 case, its not. $$ for aim assist on your ship  doh.gif
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You doesn't get my point. I'm not talking about fairness. I'm talking about the purported "gambling element" involved when buying loot crate.

Some religious zealot will make use of this to get government to banned certain game in Malaysia.
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post Nov 16 2017, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(endymeon @ Nov 16 2017, 05:01 PM)
You doesn't get my point. I'm not talking about fairness. I'm talking about the purported "gambling element" involved when buying loot crate.

Some religious zealot will make use of this to get government to banned certain game in Malaysia.
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if this what you talking about, i'm out blush.gif
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post Nov 16 2017, 05:47 PM

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I'm curious as to why Overwatch is part of it while something like Hearthstone isn't. Does being a TCG vs FPS make the difference?
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post Nov 16 2017, 05:49 PM

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how do those zealots want to block games that u can get easily over online??
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post Nov 16 2017, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Nov 16 2017, 05:49 PM)
how do those zealots want to block games that u can get easily over online??
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but those are usually online game that you need to be online when playing the game. DNS level blocking are simple enough to kick most of the user out.
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post Nov 16 2017, 06:31 PM

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I see where you're coming from. We can't do anything but pray that it doesn't become a reality since Malaysia is capable of doing the "unbelievable"
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post Nov 16 2017, 06:45 PM

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there's a bunch of bannable stuffs around us, just no one puts much emphasis over the nature... if the enforcement are to be hold strict then we'll probably see certain *vroom vroom* missing most anime event (due to female character's revealing clothes), game even (due to some hunting game's mascot is a certain animal type), and esports (open a crate/ box would mean reliance on randomness, aka gambling)

just relax and enjoy the game
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post Nov 17 2017, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Nov 16 2017, 06:45 PM)
there's a bunch of bannable stuffs around us, just no one puts much emphasis over the nature... if the enforcement are to be hold strict then we'll probably see certain *vroom vroom* missing most anime event (due to female character's revealing clothes), game even (due to some hunting game's mascot is a certain animal type), and esports (open a crate/ box would mean reliance on randomness, aka gambling)

just relax and enjoy the game
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kinda agree with you. but GE is coming all those party are trying hard to come out with all sort of thing to grab attention.
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post Nov 17 2017, 07:15 PM

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The difference is that other games didn't piss gamers as much as EA. I know this is not gambling for sure but when people SO mad they're doing whatever they can to hurt EA.
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post Nov 19 2017, 11:40 AM

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this kind of anti-gambling law can be easily circumvented

for example, one loot box gives, say, 5 credits, and as a bonus for buying from them, you get a chance to win something

now what is being sold is no longer a random chance, so no gambling involved
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post Nov 19 2017, 11:44 AM

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EA been bribe mod forum and etc to get good review and got caught and ban from it. Look like no way I'm going to buy any game from EA for good.
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post Nov 23 2017, 10:25 PM

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The definition of gambling is too subjective. Even, stock market speculation can be a form of gambling.

Games with loot boxes and RNG of certain loot popping up is nothing new. However, I totally oppose games with excessive micro transaction and support it being banned...sorry, I treasure liberalism but I hate corporate greed.
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post Nov 24 2017, 03:30 PM

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Are people here seriously defending gambling mechanics? The issue isn't just whether it's cosmetic or not. Randomized reward systems are not a healthy thing to train your brain to be stimulated by. It's even worse when you consider children will be playing these games (especially something like Overwatch). The card collecting thing is also just tacky. I want to play a FPS, not a FPS/Card Collecting game. The card drops on the Normandy landing in COD WWII is the absolute nadir of this.

I say ban these gambling mechanics. Nothing of value will be lost. Let the games adapt their own shitty practices to be socially acceptable.

 

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