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 PROPERTY MARKET TO BE BADLY HIT IN 2018, Tekan the greedy sellers to the max!

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thecaterpillar
post Nov 26 2017, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(aldtan @ Nov 25 2017, 04:32 PM)
Property developers do own their assets actually, mostly commercial and offices due to higher yields and rental tenure compared to residential. The also structure REITs

Property and land prices over the long term will only yield the same returns as economic growth as both are interlinked. Property is a non-productive asset, it feeds on the growth of the economiy but does not feed into economic growth and development.

Develperes have done well in malaysia (at least until recently) largely due to Malaysia moving from a low to middle income economy. Most of the large gains by developers are from infrastructure impovement (highways) and rezoning of plantation areas to resi or commercial areas. We see much less of this now heydays of developers in malaysia because of this is limited (which is why Malaysian developers are going overseas). Afterall, property is about location and execution is more about not screwing up the end product.

Not sure where you got 150k for a DSL in 1990 but its in Klang valley it was about 220k+- and now about 850-900k median price. On an annual return basis over 27 years that only gives you a return of 5% p.a. which is inline with Malaysias nominal GDP growth. For comparison, FD gives you 3.2%, govt bond 3.9% (very low risk) and Buying the KLCI 12-15% p.a over the same period.  So long term property is a crap asset to hold.
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That's if u buy your property cash and hold. What about those leveraging on loans and rented their unit out? The total investment is not the purchased price...it's much much much lower...


thecaterpillar
post Nov 26 2017, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(hhho @ Nov 26 2017, 12:27 PM)
I thought it's much higher not lower!
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Lol. Think again... when u talk about investment, u r putting ur money and hoping for return. When u buy a property, say u pay 10% and the rest loan, u r investing only a fraction on the purchased price. Over the years u add some cost into installment, but what about rental income? So in the end u calculate purchase price vs selling price. The return is not calculated like that, but it's based on the amount u put in and the cost of disposing it...That's ur investment. That's simplistic way of calculating.

Of course the cost is also not in full up front, some is installment, some cost incurred during sale...however, investment wf loan and property upkeep is a commitment, unlike u buying stock. U can just pay one go and wait till u sell for gain. Just wanted to say the comparison the guy did is not right to calculate that way.


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post Nov 26 2017, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(brother love @ Nov 26 2017, 01:17 PM)
MVertigo scenery didint prove anything, remember this was the same scene few years ago for almoat every new launching, but look at the owners crying now at the overpriced projeks
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It just prove that demand is there. Not proving that the buyers will laugh to the bank because of this purchase. Also, not everyone purchase property for investment too..

As long as it's at the right price and location, demand will still be there.

This post has been edited by thecaterpillar: Nov 26 2017, 01:41 PM

 

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