How the property market turns out really doesn't matter.  I mean you guys are not the first in the property investment thing.  There were many people before us that done this in M'sia since the 1950s.  Ask yourself, where are they today?

Property developers are in the business (they see it the highest returns) to buy/lease land, build and sell.  They don't own and rent out do they?  Why is that?  Do they see no future possibility in they owning properties for rent?

Just for information, the equilibrium prices for the properties before all this "hype" in the 1990s.

2 level Terrace house (20 x 70/75) - rm150k
2 level Semi-D (40x80) - rm200k
2 level Bungalow (50x100) - rm400k

When supply stablises and when when population mix/growth stablises, what price do you think these properties would go vs. now?

Market crash? See this scene. Today!!!

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This is Aset Kayamas latest launched

The Holmes 2 at Cheras, adjoining between Taman Midah & Permaisuri

A good property investment should also give a a decent rental yield, on top of the capital gain. And not forgetting leveraging also. Initial investment for the RM220k property could well be in the region of RM30k only.

I concur but with my own views thou.

Anw bitcoin is no different to prop flipper. Many seasoned prop investors dun simply just sell.

Anw again, noone able to bring away athg after the last breath. So noone should bring the cows home 🤣🤣🤣

Lastly I wish there ll b zero supply regardless of price. We dun need a pea brain minister to joke everyday.

U must read the tered to know when I rented out my units. 😂😂😂

Pay attention la

"Hope everyone is clearer that when property prices drop drastically, that is a crisis. During a crisis, property is not even going to be the main thing we think about. It’s more of survival; keeping our jobs, minimising expenses etc. Happy viewing and buying ONLY when you are ready. "

A picture speaks thousand words.......
There's still lot of buying interest out there.
Don't take the words of these property gurus seriously?

It just prove that demand is there. Not proving that the buyers will laugh to the bank because of this purchase. Also, not everyone purchase property for investment too..

As long as it's at the right price and location, demand will still be there.

Lol. Think again... when u talk about investment, u r putting ur money and hoping for return. When u buy a property, say u pay 10% and the rest loan, u r investing only a fraction on the purchased price. Over the years u add some cost into installment, but what about rental income? So in the end u calculate purchase price vs selling price. The return is not calculated like that, but it's based on the amount u put in and the cost of disposing it...That's ur investment. That's simplistic way of calculating.

Of course the cost is also not in full up front, some is installment, some cost incurred during sale...however, investment wf loan and property upkeep is a commitment, unlike u buying stock. U can just pay one go and wait till u sell for gain. Just wanted to say the comparison the guy did is not right to calculate that way.

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...-working-class/
What's wrong with this unker ? Last time ask us to wait price will come down from RM500k to RM300k.

Now say prices won't fall....

I hold and don't buy this year, now what ? Give us false hope only ?   

https://www.facebook.com/theedgemarkets/pos...016179411928457

Strong sign of rate increase in 2018.

Those who can hold - no issue, except maybe cut down on CoffeeBean or movies

Those who can’t hold - better be prepared

Those who still ada bullets - good timing to pick from auctions

Thoughts anyone?

Raising interest rates is like shooting oneself and will be suicidal..its like askig people to buy and invest wit low rates 1st than raise the rates end up most buyers fail to service their loans and market crash..

Anf dvlopers pls dunt take consumers for fools by building high rise flats udr affordable segment, we want 22x75 landed at Rm300k to Rm400k!!

if price crash.. not to forget.. the bank loan also will crash..

Exactly. Those keep delaying their purchase waiting for price crash, did not think through what will happen. Housing is very illiquid. It effects everyone. Be carefull what you wish for...

Property is for cash rich ppl n cash rich ppl prefer land instead of housing at this market situation
If see the data, 80% of unsold units is above 250k, around 70% if not mistaken unsold units is between 250k to 1 mil.
Poor ppl still poor, middle income ppl become middle lower.
Rich ppl still rich.

So middle class ppl need to wait or should not wait ? Wait for price drop or wait for become new poor?

Don't wait but buy within means. Don't need to own 10 properties if one knows it will kill him/her in the long run.

But buy now cos if nothing else happen, the inflation rate will cause the price to be higher.

experts and politicians needs to be practical also....

50yrs ago...a landed cost only under 20k
25yrs ago...a landed cost around 200-250k

why they expect NOW everybody (95%) of working population be able to afford 250k homes and house price remains at 250k?

everybody should be praying for the property market to be badly hit next year...it is a good thing...not a bad one...

Expert did their analysis.

Moody's expects decline in property prices due to supply overhang

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...upply-overhang/

Hee... hee... Guess it’s the same for everyone.

Invested wants price to keep going up.
Missed the boats wants price to crash.
Even those not doing investing, wants to be acknowledged for their ‘wisdoms’.

This is chicken n egg issue. Income din rise as fast as inflation.....
So, the mean ppl should not wait, should buy early since we know this issue. Do u think for those dun want to buy now, one day their income will rise as fast as inflation?

Better buy 250k now n to work out how to settle the debt as fast as possible better than after 25 yrs buy the 1 mil same house.

Waiting and waiting, may not get the cheaper deal but may get the ppl middle income become poorer

u dont know him ar? he more like grandpa already... not unker. 

he is a chartered surveyor with 40yrs experience from property valuation. not investor. 

property valuation vs property investment IN PRACTICE is 2 diff thing. know how to value for bank doesnt mean know how to spot cheap deals.

if you got problem with dispute, real estate law = find him.
if you ask for advise where to invest, please choose somebody else. 

Or sell too early and sulk all the way?

After reading through this thread, I can`t make up my mind whether to proceed in buying my first property or not
It`s a 300k Rumawip

IF the monthly pay is around RM1.5k-1.8k (installment + Maintenance) , it should not be a problem.
What I dont understand is how the "bank negara rate hikes" will affect me?

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/stro...ambank-research

Please enlighten.

and does the Flexi or non-flexi affect in anyway? which would be better/

Thanks in advance 

hehe...if 300k is 20% of his income...he would have aim to buy property at 600k lioa......