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CIMB loses data backups
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SUSwankongyew
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 Nov 13 2017, 09:43 PM, updated 9y ago
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QUOTE KUALA LUMPUR: CIMB Group Holdings Bhd (CIMB) today announced that several magnetic tapes containing back-up data were lost in transit during routine operations.
Some of these tapes contain customer information of CIMB Bank and its subsidiaries.
The bank said following a thorough and ongoing assessment, there is currently no evidence that any of this information has been compromised.
"The tape data does not contain any authentication data such as PINs, passwords or credit card CVV numbers," CIMB said in a statement today.
It said in adopting a conservative approach to data protection and security, the bank is working with all the relevant authorities and taking all necessary measures to protect its customers.
"As these are back-up tapes, CIMB still has all customer information," it said.
In response to this incident, CIMB has heightened security measures across all channels, including temporarily suspending some services via its call centre such change of address, telephone number and/or email address for banking/credit cards; third party fund transfer or payment for customers without T-Pin; and T-Pin creation or requests.
The bank advised that whilst no action is required on the part of customers, CIMB recommends that customers be extra vigilant and when in doubt, refer only to official CIMB channels such as its website, call centre and branches.
“We take our responsibility to our customers very seriously and we are confident the measures we have put in place will maintain the safety of customer transactions.
"Although this was an isolated incident, we have reviewed and further strengthened our security and internal processes to ensure that we remove the possibility of it recurring,” said CIMB Group Holdings Bhd chief executive officer Tengku Datuk Seri Zafrul Tengku Aziz.
"We apologise for the inconvenience that our heightened security measures may cause to our customers in the interim.
"Know that we are working very closely with all relevant authorities to mitigate any risk arising from this incident," he said.
In a separate statement, Bank Negara Malaysia (BNM) said it is aware of the incident involving the loss of backup tapes in transit by CIMB.
BNM was assured by CIMB Bank that necessary precautionary measures and mitigation actions have been taken to manage any possible negative impact arising from the loss of the tapes.
Members of the public are advised to continue to be vigilant in safeguarding their personal information, it said. https://malaysia.yahoo.com/news/cimb-reveal...-124802681.html |
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Quantum Geist
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Nov 13 2017, 09:44 PM
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Whoever lost it is in deep deeeep shit
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SUSazhan82
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Nov 13 2017, 09:45 PM
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fuhh magnetic tapes...
like those old cassettes ke?
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andrekua2
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Nov 13 2017, 09:46 PM
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Only has an account with few K to use on Taobao... didn't really care.
This post has been edited by andrekua2: Nov 13 2017, 09:46 PM
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abu.shofwan
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Nov 13 2017, 09:46 PM
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No mention whether the data is encrypted (or what type of encryption used)
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acbc
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Nov 13 2017, 09:51 PM
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Tapes? 20 years out of date.
Banks are known to use outdated tech like mainframes and ultra low capacity hard drives like the IBM 3390.
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godhpf
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Nov 13 2017, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 13 2017, 09:51 PM) Tapes? 20 years out of date. Banks are known to use outdated tech like mainframes and ultra low capacity hard drives like the IBM 3390. Tape drives are how a lot of companies with huge amount of data store their backups. Even Google uses them. This post has been edited by godhpf: Nov 13 2017, 09:59 PM |
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nicole_4ever
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Nov 13 2017, 10:01 PM
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Seriously? hkl?
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SUSskyblu3
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Nov 13 2017, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 13 2017, 09:51 PM) Tapes? 20 years out of date. Banks are known to use outdated tech like mainframes and ultra low capacity hard drives like the IBM 3390. Looks like you never work in fsi IT before. |
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patienceGNR
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Nov 13 2017, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(abu.shofwan @ Nov 13 2017, 09:46 PM) No mention whether the data is encrypted (or what type of encryption used) Or if it was even encrypted  |
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malayantiger
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Nov 13 2017, 10:08 PM
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This day and age CIMB still using magnetic tapes? Fuuuuuuuuuuu
Luckily I don't bank with them!
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deodorant
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Nov 13 2017, 10:14 PM
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LOL so many “IT EXPERTS” in this thread berlagak pandai  |
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budi1413
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Nov 13 2017, 10:16 PM
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Magnetic tape can store data for long period of time without losing the data. For backup purpose only.
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Fighteden
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Nov 13 2017, 10:18 PM
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Tapes is very common for server backups.
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Feugo
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Nov 13 2017, 10:20 PM
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probably sold to insurance company
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rudduan
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Nov 13 2017, 10:22 PM
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Oh...god..
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bigwolf
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Nov 13 2017, 10:22 PM
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Actually I asked that question before at another bank IT officer "Why banks still use magnetic tapes ah? Why don't you guys update a bit, like use hard drives? I mean, 1 external drive can easily store 1tb data, while tapes can only store like xxgb info" He answered basically its the infra. You need to invest some serious $$$ on the infrastructure to extract info from the tape. You need to mount it to a tape server that uses proprietary software and other compilation programs plus other backup servers. External drives you only need a usb port, dah, cukup  Kinda makes sense what he said. Basically you can get your hands on the tapes but you can't extract the data so easily compared to usb ports  This post has been edited by bigwolf: Nov 13 2017, 10:58 PM |
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patt_sue
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Nov 13 2017, 10:24 PM
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Who handle the transfer of the tape? Their own staff or contractor?
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philippecr
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Nov 13 2017, 10:26 PM
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people who laugh at magnetic tapes should get the facts right.
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Noyoudontcare
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Nov 13 2017, 10:29 PM
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So that means bank would never invest in cloud computing/storage?
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yhtan
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Nov 13 2017, 10:30 PM
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The officer confirm kena goreng
and BNM confirm will fine CIMB bank for the negligence
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cicak.fakir
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Nov 13 2017, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 13 2017, 09:51 PM) Tapes? 20 years out of date. LOL.... are you in IT line in the first place? out-of-touch with reality. |
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mois
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Nov 13 2017, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(cicak.fakir @ Nov 13 2017, 10:32 PM) LOL.... are you in IT line in the first place? out-of-touch with reality. Dont think he in IT. Just bash first think later |
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cicak.fakir
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Nov 13 2017, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Nov 13 2017, 10:14 PM) LOL so many “IT EXPERTS” in this thread berlagak pandai please TAR them |
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philippecr
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Nov 13 2017, 10:33 PM
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100TB of storage space in just ONE tape. Beat that with your HDD and SSD.
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netmatrix
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Nov 13 2017, 10:35 PM
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If u have data in floppy or even zip drive, how many people you know still have the drives?
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jesseclane
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Nov 13 2017, 10:37 PM
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magnetic tape still standard way to save cold backup.
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ju146
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Nov 13 2017, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(Noyoudontcare @ Nov 13 2017, 10:29 PM) So that means bank would never invest in cloud computing/storage? Not to say never, but not the practice for now. |
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Elvis85
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Nov 13 2017, 10:41 PM
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RM0.00 CIMB: AWAS! Jgn balas emel/SMS/panggilan yg meminta butiran TAC,peribadi atau perbankan anda. Hubungi no di belakang kad utk melapor sebarang kecurigaan
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graphidz
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Nov 13 2017, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 13 2017, 09:51 PM) Tapes? 20 years out of date. Banks are known to use outdated tech like mainframes and ultra low capacity hard drives like the IBM 3390. QUOTE(malayantiger @ Nov 13 2017, 10:08 PM) This day and age CIMB still using magnetic tapes? Fuuuuuuuuuuu Luckily I don't bank with them! lol you thought VHS tapes is it? lol anyway, those tapes need the machine which costs a few thousand i think This post has been edited by graphidz: Nov 13 2017, 10:48 PM |
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Quantum Geist
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Nov 13 2017, 10:44 PM
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Magnetic tapes are for long term backup as they tend to hold huge capacity for storage, lasts a very loong time in proper condition, and relatively cheap compared to other medias.
It's SOP for a majority of corporation as a reliable backup media.
The more you know people
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creep
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Nov 13 2017, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Nov 13 2017, 10:24 PM) Who handle the transfer of the tape? Their own staff or contractor? mostly outsourced already ....tape librarian je staff |
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herojack41
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Nov 13 2017, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Nov 13 2017, 10:14 PM) LOL so many “IT EXPERTS” in this thread berlagak pandai Yup. Those some Enterprise solution magnetic tape backup is worth more than those sexpert at /k |
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Faidzal
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Nov 13 2017, 10:51 PM
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I pity the fool who lost the tapes...
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adren1
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Nov 13 2017, 10:52 PM
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That's why bank want to hire foreigner does better job
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TrustULoveU
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Nov 13 2017, 10:53 PM
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closed my CIMB account long ago, shyty bank
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ktek
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Nov 13 2017, 10:57 PM
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well each branch has external hdd hold by mr xyz so nothing is lost.
only scare unethical use of personal data
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SUSempatTan
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Nov 13 2017, 11:01 PM
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Sold dy data...
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oucheev
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Nov 13 2017, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(ju146 @ Nov 13 2017, 10:40 PM) Not to say never, but not the practice for now. If i am not mstaken, BNM does not allow financial institution to store via cloud |
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ray148
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Nov 13 2017, 11:25 PM
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wtf...what incompetence.
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99FoxDemon
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Nov 13 2017, 11:29 PM
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no wonder cimb don stop send reminder after reminder to remind do not respond any suspicious sms or email asking for any related info for user acc.
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adamhzm90
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Nov 13 2017, 11:31 PM
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oh no wonder my company also using tapes for backup.
btw already cut my cimb credit card. mcb they revised online purchase cash rebate from 5% to 0.02%
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Sycamore
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Nov 13 2017, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(Elvis85 @ Nov 13 2017, 10:41 PM) RM0.00 CIMB: AWAS! Jgn balas emel/SMS/panggilan yg meminta butiran TAC,peribadi atau perbankan anda. Hubungi no di belakang kad utk melapor sebarang kecurigaan Oh I received this sms too. So that's the reason they sent this sms. |
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SUSbananajoe
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Nov 13 2017, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 13 2017, 09:51 PM) Tapes? 20 years out of date. Banks are known to use outdated tech like mainframes and ultra low capacity hard drives like the IBM 3390. why fix if its not broken ? p |
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xPrototype
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Nov 13 2017, 11:45 PM
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you guys think vhs tapes meh tiu
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mamao
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Nov 13 2017, 11:52 PM
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even old archieve media at RTM also using this magnetic tape
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nakal_mode
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Nov 13 2017, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Nov 13 2017, 10:14 PM) LOL so many “IT EXPERTS” in this thread berlagak pandai Let them be, never work in actual data centers or company with critical information. |
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zerorating
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Nov 14 2017, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 13 2017, 09:51 PM) Tapes? 20 years out of date. Banks are known to use outdated tech like mainframes and ultra low capacity hard drives like the IBM 3390. so whats your recommendation? lto-8 tape drive can store 30TB worth of compressed data and tape are known to be more reliable for long term backup compared to hard disk. |
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jamilselamat
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Nov 14 2017, 12:14 AM
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CIMB ni apa masalah dia ha?
Dah la ramai member aku duit selalu kena telan bila guna ATM CIMB. Sistem kerap tergendala. Buat kerja camna depa ni...?
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wertty
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Nov 14 2017, 12:16 AM
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Same reason why military ships run on shytty Operating system
meanwhile “expert” argue why dont use windows 10
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SUScocbum4
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Nov 14 2017, 12:36 AM
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Keep money in the bed
No fucuk given
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nizamz
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Nov 14 2017, 01:11 AM
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bersepah lah sev1 tuew.
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tvcat
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Nov 14 2017, 01:36 AM
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QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 13 2017, 09:51 PM) Tapes? 20 years out of date. Banks are known to use outdated tech like mainframes and ultra low capacity hard drives like the IBM 3390. Lulz, smartass ni |
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mousqy
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Nov 14 2017, 01:39 AM
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QUOTE(azhan82 @ Nov 13 2017, 09:45 PM) fuhh magnetic tapes... like those old cassettes ke? maybe LTO 5 tapes |
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yoshiki81
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Nov 14 2017, 01:45 AM
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QUOTE(azhan82 @ Nov 13 2017, 09:45 PM) fuhh magnetic tapes... like those old cassettes ke? It use LTO1, LTO3 or LTO5 tape.. Using magnetic tape for long time already..but now bank use hard disk (Datawarehouse) for security purpose..No more using LTO3 tape Can google about the tape...Not like cassette or vhs one (shape) but yes use magnetic tape |
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selinix
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Nov 14 2017, 02:03 AM
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Nov 13 2017, 10:22 PM) Actually I asked that question before at another bank IT officer "Why banks still use magnetic tapes ah? Why don't you guys update a bit, like use hard drives? I mean, 1 external drive can easily store 1tb data, while tapes can only store like xxgb info" He answered basically its the infra. You need to invest some serious $$$ on the infrastructure to extract info from the tape. You need to mount it to a tape server that uses proprietary software and other compilation programs plus other backup servers. External drives you only need a usb port, dah, cukup Kinda makes sense what he said. Basically you can get your hands on the tapes but you can't extract the data so easily compared to usb ports what on earth are you talking about.. 1 single LTO-7 Tape can store from 6tb to 15tb amount of data depending on compression ratio.. |
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multiplexer
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Nov 14 2017, 02:16 AM
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at my place, we seldomly encrypt the tape version of backup due to the time taken the backup to be completed...
habis la data dalam tu cimb lol
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multiplexer
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Nov 14 2017, 02:19 AM
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QUOTE(selinix @ Nov 14 2017, 02:03 AM) what on earth are you talking about.. 1 single LTO-7 Tape can store from 6tb to 15tb amount of data depending on compression ratio.. i have to agree with this.. i dont think the capacity is the issue.. its more towards the compliance... |
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kcchong2000
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Nov 14 2017, 06:17 AM
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QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 13 2017, 09:51 PM) Tapes? 20 years out of date. Banks are known to use outdated tech like mainframes and ultra low capacity hard drives like the IBM 3390. Ehh... No matter what, it is still using backup tapes. |
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kcchong2000
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Nov 14 2017, 06:30 AM
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QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ Nov 13 2017, 10:44 PM) Magnetic tapes are for long term backup as they tend to hold huge capacity for storage, lasts a very loong time in proper condition, and relatively cheap compared to other medias. It's SOP for a majority of corporation as a reliable backup media. The more you know people And other criteria in IT audit u need to have disaster recovery, where u need to transfer to backup server area at least 10km from ur data center. So someone screw up or drop it during transfer. That guy sure in deep shit when doing transfer backup tape. If uncompressed, lagi teruk. And those who said backup tape is outdated, what to do where they only backup prawns. |
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avex|mode
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Nov 14 2017, 07:06 AM
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[WTS} Cloud backup solution
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avex|mode
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Nov 14 2017, 07:07 AM
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The reason they are still using tapes is because of Bank Negara's stupid requirements for 7 years backup retentions.
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shikimori
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Nov 14 2017, 07:29 AM
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QUOTE(azhan82 @ Nov 13 2017, 09:45 PM) fuhh magnetic tapes... like those old cassettes ke? QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 13 2017, 09:51 PM) Tapes? 20 years out of date. Banks are known to use outdated tech like mainframes and ultra low capacity hard drives like the IBM 3390. QUOTE(malayantiger @ Nov 13 2017, 10:08 PM) This day and age CIMB still using magnetic tapes? Fuuuuuuuuuuu Luckily I don't bank with them! Seriously if you guys are in enterprise IT field I really will facepalm . |
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azbro
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Nov 14 2017, 08:00 AM
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Time to change your password
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bigwolf
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Nov 14 2017, 08:02 AM
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QUOTE(selinix @ Nov 14 2017, 02:03 AM) what on earth are you talking about.. 1 single LTO-7 Tape can store from 6tb to 15tb amount of data depending on compression ratio.. Many years ago oledi la, that time was lto2 - lto3 tapes |
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SUSlowya
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Nov 14 2017, 08:15 AM
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HLB and PBB will never have such problem like CIMB, if you get what i mean.
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latipbogiba
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Nov 14 2017, 08:19 AM
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Nov 13 2017, 10:14 PM) LOL so many “IT EXPERTS” in this thread berlagak pandai banyak tengok mr robot |
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salimbest83
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Nov 14 2017, 08:21 AM
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Nov 13 2017, 10:14 PM) LOL so many “IT EXPERTS” in this thread berlagak pandai tu lah.. rasa nak tepuk dahi je satu satu..  |
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SUSSKY233
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Nov 14 2017, 08:22 AM
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is it like LTO tape?
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john123x
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Nov 14 2017, 08:26 AM
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this story is no big deal.
actually, the tape, you can put password on it, so before you can extract data, it asks for password.
this comment is from IT guy that has uses tape before
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lifeofkuli
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Nov 14 2017, 08:27 AM
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their bank sys also using xp
what do u expect?
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digilife
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Nov 14 2017, 08:30 AM
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QUOTE(lowya @ Nov 14 2017, 08:15 AM) HLB and PBB will never have such problem like CIMB, if you get what i mean. Include HSBC la  |
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Aivihc
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Nov 14 2017, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 13 2017, 09:51 PM) Tapes? 20 years out of date. Banks are known to use outdated tech like mainframes and ultra low capacity hard drives like the IBM 3390.  https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/2/16074568/...-cartridge-tape |
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WinkyJr
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Nov 14 2017, 08:42 AM
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u guys komplen about magnetic tape for backup, do u guys even really know about it, see or hold one?
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digilife
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Nov 14 2017, 08:42 AM
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QUOTE(WinkyJr @ Nov 14 2017, 08:42 AM) u guys komplen about magnetic tape for backup, do u guys even really know about it, see or hold one? |
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ZzZzz...
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Nov 14 2017, 08:43 AM
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huhuhu
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asphiroth
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Nov 14 2017, 08:47 AM
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bodo la siapa ckp backup tapes ketinggalan zaman
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fridel
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Nov 14 2017, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ Nov 13 2017, 09:44 PM) Whoever lost it is in deep deeeep shit wonder how to sleep at night when u are in the situation lel |
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selinix
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Nov 14 2017, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Nov 14 2017, 08:02 AM) Many years ago oledi la, that time was lto2 - lto3 tapes if it is back in the days of LTO2-3 i think the HDD size is no where that huge as well, but nonetheless i doubt banks will ever go on storing data on HDD, there is a reason why they need to go on tapes, because of a 7 years archival purposes, imagine if they needed to store 7 years of data on HDD, how much would it cost compare to cartridges.. |
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SUSavatargod
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Nov 14 2017, 08:54 AM
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 we use this to backup our imaging data... |
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Elvis85
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Nov 14 2017, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(Sycamore @ Nov 13 2017, 11:34 PM) Oh I received this sms too. So that's the reason they sent this sms. 2 days already.. |
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SUSlowya
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Nov 14 2017, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE(digilife @ Nov 14 2017, 08:30 AM) Include HSBC la oh ya, don't forget OUB and OCBC also. |
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bigwolf
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Nov 14 2017, 09:01 AM
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QUOTE(selinix @ Nov 14 2017, 08:50 AM) if it is back in the days of LTO2-3 i think the HDD size is no where that huge as well, but nonetheless i doubt banks will ever go on storing data on HDD, there is a reason why they need to go on tapes, because of a 7 years archival purposes, imagine if they needed to store 7 years of data on HDD, how much would it cost compare to cartridges.. You'll be surprised how common lto3 - lto5 are still used nowadays The other reason tapes are used is because of the infra. Its so much harder to extract info from tapes compared to hdd. Software aside, you just need a common usb port to access the hdd. But you need expensive specialized equipments to access the tape, hence the reason why tapes are considered "safer" compared to HDD This post has been edited by bigwolf: Nov 14 2017, 09:03 AM |
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smallbug
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Nov 14 2017, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Nov 14 2017, 09:01 AM) You'll be surprised how common lto3 - lto5 are still used nowadays The other reason tapes are used is because of the infra. Its so much harder to extract info from tapes compared to hdd. Software aside, you just need a common usb port to access the hdd. But you need expensive specialized equipments to access the tape, hence the reason why tapes are considered "safer" compared to HDD So this is the real reason lar..  |
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haimirmaya
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Nov 14 2017, 09:05 AM
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QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 13 2017, 10:51 PM) Tapes? 20 years out of date. Banks are known to use outdated tech like mainframes and ultra low capacity hard drives like the IBM 3390. offsite backup is needed in term of any disaster recovery situation policy that setup to prevent data lost. but now, you can setup a DR and do the backup online too. Depends on what solution that you want. |
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bigwolf
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Nov 14 2017, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE(smallbug @ Nov 14 2017, 09:04 AM) So this is the real reason lar.. ONE of the reasons. Cost is also another factor as pointed out by selinix  |
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MjMax15
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Nov 14 2017, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Nov 13 2017, 10:22 PM) Actually I asked that question before at another bank IT officer "Why banks still use magnetic tapes ah? Why don't you guys update a bit, like use hard drives? I mean, 1 external drive can easily store 1tb data, while tapes can only store like xxgb info" He answered basically its the infra. You need to invest some serious $$$ on the infrastructure to extract info from the tape. You need to mount it to a tape server that uses proprietary software and other compilation programs plus other backup servers. External drives you only need a usb port, dah, cukup Kinda makes sense what he said. Basically you can get your hands on the tapes but you can't extract the data so easily compared to usb ports this remind me at 'eraser' movie |
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cjlio1
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Nov 14 2017, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 13 2017, 09:51 PM) Tapes? 20 years out of date. Banks are known to use outdated tech like mainframes and ultra low capacity hard drives like the IBM 3390. LEL, please do some reading before you comment about tapes |
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urnicksux2
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Nov 14 2017, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(Buycheap0005 @ Nov 14 2017, 09:03 AM) Yep. So many sohais. The real IT experts here all laughing at them. they think magnetic tape is this  |
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cjlio1
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Nov 14 2017, 09:48 AM
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they lost it but IF and only fucking IF they encrypt it then still ok, else go and hamkaling the idiot who lost it.
hold him down while people beat his chun toi with chairs and baseball bats
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unknown_2
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Nov 14 2017, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(agus_eko @ Nov 14 2017, 09:35 AM) Nothing can beat tapes for offline backup. Price per capacity is way cheaper than backup to disk. Some enterprise did use disk to disk backup but they will have another layer that make a copy to tapes. yes, the cheapest form of offline backup. it then will be transferred to another building (not within 50km radius) for safe keeping. this will rotate usually on weekly basis. reason for this remote backup is that even if company got nuke or got 911ed, still can rebuild from offsite backup tapes. i suspect that is how it got lost, when moving tapes to remote site. anyhow, nowadays got better solution, veeam for example, but definitely cost way more than tapes. |
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SUSazhan82
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Nov 14 2017, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(mousqy @ Nov 14 2017, 01:39 AM) QUOTE(yoshiki81 @ Nov 14 2017, 01:45 AM) It use LTO1, LTO3 or LTO5 tape.. Using magnetic tape for long time already..but now bank use hard disk (Datawarehouse) for security purpose..No more using LTO3 tape Can google about the tape...Not like cassette or vhs one (shape) but yes use magnetic tape  wow.. this tape ke? first time seeing this thanks  3TB.. thats a lot of data.. QUOTE(shikimori @ Nov 14 2017, 07:29 AM) Seriously if you guys are in enterprise IT field I really will facepalm . Ayam not in enterprise IT.. hence the japanese type of question "ka" .... |
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buncho89
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Nov 14 2017, 11:31 AM
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watching mr robot has helped me understand a bit all this backup backup...lel
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khainiz94
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Nov 14 2017, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(lowya @ Nov 14 2017, 09:00 AM) oh ya, don't forget OUB and OCBC also. Include all international banks la. Their security is top level. I use Standard Chartered and they notify anything with what I do on my account. Deposit money, withdraw money, use debit card and so on. Always got SMS and email for all transaction. But one thing I did not like withdraw money at MEPS mahal gila. |
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MjMax15
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Nov 14 2017, 11:48 AM
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the last i use was MO disk
tehn all transformed to pendrive lel
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junsheng
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Nov 14 2017, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 13 2017, 09:51 PM) Tapes? 20 years out of date. Banks are known to use outdated tech like mainframes and ultra low capacity hard drives like the IBM 3390. lol hahaha |
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SUScrash123
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Nov 14 2017, 02:04 PM
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Habis la that tape guy. Kena buang. Sad case. Btw cimb infra is not that good. Already enter their server room at kl.
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metalique
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Nov 14 2017, 02:57 PM
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normally on enterprise level even government sector, backup tape will be store at other places on routine backup (weekly/monthly etc).... what they mean lost?... stolen?.... rob?..... misplaced?... wahhh.... very suspicious....  This post has been edited by metalique: Nov 14 2017, 03:04 PM |
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zhou.xingxing
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Nov 14 2017, 03:05 PM
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pakar it pakar ekonomi..
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teikboon
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Nov 14 2017, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(Noyoudontcare @ Nov 13 2017, 10:29 PM) So that means bank would never invest in cloud computing/storage? bank mostly will say no to cloud |
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hurricane21
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Nov 14 2017, 03:10 PM
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Inside job? Conspiracy theory? |
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teikboon
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Nov 14 2017, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE(wertty @ Nov 14 2017, 12:16 AM) Same reason why military ships run on shytty Operating system meanwhile “expert” argue why dont use windows 10 |
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C-Fu
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Nov 14 2017, 03:18 PM
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What's with the PR bullshit? If kena curi just say kena curi la. Lost can mean a lot of things
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SUSkoolio
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Nov 14 2017, 03:19 PM
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wow still using magnetic tapes for back ups? closing my sg and my cimb accounts this week...  |
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nelienuxe_sara
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Nov 14 2017, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(koolio @ Nov 14 2017, 03:19 PM) wow still using magnetic tapes for back ups? closing my sg and my cimb accounts this week... kesian even standard charted bank using the tape weekly montly and yearly |
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SUSkoolio
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Nov 14 2017, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Nov 14 2017, 03:27 PM) kesian even standard charted bank using the tape weekly montly and yearly man, am i glad i don;t bank with scb... |
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mydragoon
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Nov 15 2017, 03:32 PM
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i think already mentioned earlier by quite a few...
* not surprising to see tape still being used
* tape is still good and reliable and cost effective
* many big corps are still using it is backup
* corps may have whatever "live" data on some harddisk, but backup is usually still tape
and if anything, good to see that CIMB alerted their customers. always good to get reminder not to entertain scam callers.
This post has been edited by mydragoon: Nov 15 2017, 03:35 PM
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Nov 15 2017, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(koolio @ Nov 14 2017, 04:41 PM) man, am i glad i don;t bank with scb... Maybe only Morgan can do your biz.  Big shot in /k |
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Smackers
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Nov 15 2017, 03:45 PM
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Most likely are Ultrium LTO tapes which holds several TBs of data per tape. It has a really long lifespan and yes it can be encrypted as well.
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Smackers
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Nov 15 2017, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(stankhunt42 @ Nov 15 2017, 03:34 PM) Must be a very big tape. Imagine a vhr only can record 2 hours video... If it's a Ultrium LTO tape, it's only 4.5 inch X 4.5 inch. |
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kolamazu
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Nov 15 2017, 03:49 PM
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Mr Robot style
Anyway, Tapes backup are usually off-site back up... means u copy liao store it at another location.
incase your main > back up> DR also die..then at least got Tape
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philippecr
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Nov 15 2017, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(stankhunt42 @ Nov 15 2017, 03:34 PM) Must be a very big tape. Imagine a vhr only can record 2 hours video... Magnetic tape tech already evolved several folds. |
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alanyuppie
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Nov 15 2017, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(malayantiger @ Nov 13 2017, 11:08 PM) This day and age CIMB still using magnetic tapes? Fuuuuuuuuuuu Luckily I don't bank with them! Why not? they're still accepting good old bank notes by many customers instead of digital currencies. |
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mengsuan
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Nov 15 2017, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(malayantiger @ Nov 13 2017, 10:08 PM) This day and age CIMB still using magnetic tapes? Fuuuuuuuuuuu Luckily I don't bank with them! Normal in corporate environment. You think every day buy new HDD just to write back up 1 time? |
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badigol@69
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Nov 15 2017, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Nov 13 2017, 10:14 PM) LOL so many “IT EXPERTS” in this thread berlagak pandai bcoz some pipul really work in IT dept?? my company oso still use tape. last company, oso use tape. both oso big big company, 1 is MNC O&G company. all use tape. so wat kok u tok abot? |
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mengsuan
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Nov 15 2017, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(multiplexer @ Nov 14 2017, 02:16 AM) at my place, we seldomly encrypt the tape version of backup due to the time taken the backup to be completed... habis la data dalam tu cimb lol CIMB says that the tapes does not contain authentication data. If there is breach in those data, the bank could have suspend accounts until the user updates new PIN/password |
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JimbeamofNRT
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Nov 15 2017, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(Smackers @ Nov 15 2017, 03:47 PM) If it's a Ultrium LTO tape, it's only 4.5 inch X 4.5 inch. QUOTE(Smackers @ Nov 15 2017, 03:45 PM) Most likely are Ultrium LTO tapes which holds several TBs of data per tape. It has a really long lifespan and yes it can be encrypted as well.  QUOTE(stankhunt42 @ Nov 15 2017, 03:34 PM) Must be a very big tape. Imagine a vhr only can record 2 hours video... QUOTE(philippecr @ Nov 15 2017, 04:06 PM) Magnetic tape tech already evolved several folds. most folks still think this is the one  This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Nov 15 2017, 04:30 PM |
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mydragoon
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Nov 15 2017, 04:31 PM
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nice share... and ya, that finger there gives a good indication to others as to the size of the tape! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Nov 15 2017, 04:27 PM) |
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smallbug
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Nov 15 2017, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Nov 15 2017, 04:27 PM) most folks still think this is the one Not like that one ah? More high-tech one, is it? |
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JimbeamofNRT
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Nov 15 2017, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(mydragoon @ Nov 15 2017, 04:31 PM) nice share... and ya, that finger there gives a good indication to others as to the size of the tape! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
Last I check those tapes are operated by those giants who chased Jack from the land high in the sky |
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jun_ng_1208
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Nov 15 2017, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Nov 15 2017, 04:27 PM) Those really sibeh old skool dy  My friend also called up to their hotline after she received the notification sms, the staff quite well versed in assuring that no data is leaked so I think CIMB already did great in handling this |
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JimbeamofNRT
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Nov 15 2017, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(jun_ng_1208 @ Nov 15 2017, 06:18 PM) Those really sibeh old skool dy My friend also called up to their hotline after she received the notification sms, the staff quite well versed in assuring that no data is leaked so I think CIMB already did great in handling this   IBM and Sony cram up to 330 terabytes into tiny tape cartridge Sebastian Anthony (UK) - 8/2/2017, 9:00 PM Sputtered magnetic layer, lubricant, and new heads enable massive 200Gb/inch density. IBM and Sony have developed a new magnetic tape system capable of storing 201 gigabits of data per square inch, for a max theoretical capacity of 330 terabytes in a single palm-sized cartridge. |
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Lacus
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Nov 15 2017, 08:26 PM
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Gotten few sms from CIMB after the news. Multi language somemore... Plus they did addition countermeasures by restricting certain changes to account details and etc. At the same time also informed all of us that no personal information is leaked. Pretty much should be ok liao..
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chocobo7779
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Nov 15 2017, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Nov 13 2017, 10:14 PM) LOL so many “IT EXPERTS” in this thread berlagak pandai |
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Smackers
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Nov 15 2017, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Nov 15 2017, 04:27 PM) Great share on the pictures. Lol. Yeah and I suppose many people have yet to know the current tech of tape medias. |
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JimbeamofNRT
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Nov 15 2017, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE(jun_ng_1208 @ Nov 15 2017, 06:18 PM) Those really sibeh old skool dy My friend also called up to their hotline after she received the notification sms, the staff quite well versed in assuring that no data is leaked so I think CIMB already did great in handling this QUOTE(Lacus @ Nov 15 2017, 08:26 PM) Gotten few sms from CIMB after the news. Multi language somemore... Plus they did addition countermeasures by restricting certain changes to account details and etc. At the same time also informed all of us that no personal information is leaked. Pretty much should be ok liao.. But how come they said CIMB has since heightened security measures across all channels, including temporarily suspending some services via it's call centre.
These include change of address, telephone numbers, e-mail addresses for banking and credit cards and third party transfers.source: http://www.thesundaily.my/news/2017/11/13/...-loss-back-dataThis post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Nov 15 2017, 08:51 PM |
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JimbeamofNRT
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Nov 15 2017, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE(Smackers @ Nov 15 2017, 08:46 PM) Great share on the pictures. Lol. Yeah and I suppose many people have yet to know the current tech of tape medias.  |
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andrekua2
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Nov 15 2017, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Nov 15 2017, 08:50 PM) But how come they said CIMB has since heightened security measures across all channels, including temporarily suspending some services via it's call centre.
These include change of address, telephone numbers, e-mail addresses for banking and credit cards and third party transfers.source: http://www.thesundaily.my/news/2017/11/13/...-loss-back-dataWhy so serious bro??? Nothing leaked!!!!!! Or so I was told... LOL  |
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mengsuan
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Nov 15 2017, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Nov 15 2017, 08:50 PM) But how come they said CIMB has since heightened security measures across all channels, including temporarily suspending some services via it's call centre.
These include change of address, telephone numbers, e-mail addresses for banking and credit cards and third party transfers.source: http://www.thesundaily.my/news/2017/11/13/...-loss-back-dataNo harm to be cautious on sudden changes on account now. |
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JimbeamofNRT
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Nov 15 2017, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Nov 15 2017, 09:04 PM) Why so serious bro??? Nothing leaked!!!!!! Or so I was told... LOL QUOTE(mengsuan @ Nov 15 2017, 09:55 PM) No harm to be cautious on sudden changes on account now. sure paranoid one |
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azbro
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Dec 17 2018, 12:37 PM
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My company hi tech stuff also uses magnetic tapes for back up.
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lagista
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Dec 18 2018, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE(azbro @ Dec 17 2018, 12:37 PM) My company hi tech stuff also uses magnetic tapes for back up.
17 Dec 2018https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4709535joe_mamak CIMB said its online banking portal, CIMBClicks, remains secure and all customers' transactions continue to be protected. |
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