Still alive? Or now nobody go TeaDead?

Hope they lose money big time.

mind sharing why do u feel that way towards them?

i think Tealive taste is still not as good as Chatime..

In case you didn't know, they broke the terms of franchise from ChaTime and stole the franchise as well, and not paying what they owe to ChaTime.

Alive and kicking. Not a fan though.

Can try chill2 tea

not sure the revenue , but for sure
d taste is shitty ....

CHATIME IS STILL D BEST

here nusentral they look ok

altho i dont like chatime or tealive

ah ic...did hear and read but wasn't sure who breached the contract.

Always long queue in 1U. Never tried for years.

Who?

Not yet dead but they are expand to Vietnam


They are hiring too

Tealive franchisee are idiot. Pay franchise fee for chatime, got a knockoff product tealive

they used other supplier and main company suspected something going on so they investigate ...business damn good but take lesser stocks go figure lol

ethical reasons apart, he brought chatime up la so yeah, give that to him.

The fella is ambitious, and when franchiser and franchisee dont share the same vision and velocity, depart lor.

not gonna support this unethical TL

Why these kind of idiotic drinks always get expanded

I want cheap authentic japanese ramen stall expanded please. Like kitsune ramen, soup + udon + toufu pok already so delicious but we have to eat subpar local ramens 😑

Please dont mistake dedication with Daddikasi.

The father spend millions on his useless son.

artificial

Basically its like this.

Tealive franchise from Chatime but broke terms of franchise. This is what they did.

1) Get cheap ingredients instead of getting the proper ones from ChaTime
2) Didn't pay royalties due to ChaTime
3) Stole the franchise, rebranding to Tealive after ChaTime found out and wanted to terminate Tealive
4) Tealive boss played the victim, pretend he was being bullied by ChaTime when he was actually scamming ChaTime.
5) Currently Tealive after rebranding using cheap shitty ingredients for their drinks. Probably get cancer if you drink it. Not that ChaTime is healthy, but at least they use better ingredients, so chances of cancer is lower.

Sometimes thats how asshole businessmen make money especially not paying back what they owe

tealive thursday deal still the cheapest, so i'll continue to go for that

Well, I don't think expansion is guarantee of prosperity.

Number 5) is so true. Felt like drinking plastic.

Sigh. I guess that's true, especially in Malaysia.

And msians wonder why we canot maju... kek
Mindset worse than prc

tealive too cheap..drink starbucks la

I see many also Daddikasi I Gunasemua.

At least he made something out of it, I get to drink some beverages when I'm in malls.

Too expensive, just drink normal teh ais saja

He didnt make anything, he STOLE it. Plus he got his relatives and friends to pay for it all.

Like a true daddikasi narcissistic asshole that he is. People like him are really the scum of the earth.

Suddenly chartime relevant pulak

And suddenly chartime taste become better (beacuse another one is shitty ?) lulz

I dont understand their status. Actually it's a newly branded of Chatime or what ? coz most of the place that owned by chatime turns to tealive and their menu almost the same.

I tot rebranding another name.no ?

Gong cha > all

dont worry, he'll be rich but his kids will suffer. ppl will remember what he did and play his children for fools when the time comes.

TeaLive taste now is so weird. I go to ChaTime now.

I can count the amount of times I had these drinks with only one hand, and the last time was 3 years ago.

That was only because amoi pestered me because she needed one more stamp to redeem free (shitty and cancerous) drink.

maxis user enjoy monthly buy 1 free 1 tealive thing

i dont know. everytime i go chat time i dont know what to order. so much benda on the wall. then tengok behind line panjang. then pressured. then i cancel lah. go to McD beli ice cream rm1.50. Happy

Not only in Malaysia la. Its everywhere in the world....

Imagine u got a payment for rm10mil, not every human r so saint in paying back to the subcon

i dunno

never even bought a single drink since the change

not that i boycott

i just dont want to drink 120% sugar

lel

Yes, we all know this. But what is this to you? Why do you care, unless you are actually affiliated to ChaTime in some way?

This all means jack shit to the rest of us. While I'm not inclined to support TeaLive, I see no reason why we should want to see them fail either.

I don't normally patronize them but I see no reason to boycott either. If should for any reason I suddenly feel like drinking iced tea and they're nearby, I might just pick up a cup regardless.

I went back to Chatime in Mytown.. Dont like the taste of tealive

Chatime was one of the few places where you can specify how much sugar you want and they will actually follow, unlike 99% of the mamaks out there.

Dunno TeaLive how lar. Never tried.

sorry if it hurts, teh ais tepi jalan/the bangla taste 100 times better, cheaper too

preserve, just in case.

Me too..

Got lan see posters that claim to own tealife franchise...protek until end.. thats why i boikot.

I think its about having principles as a human being.

Supporting something that the foundation is based on cheating is bad, not seeing it going down is even worse.

Like those pyramid schemes the Chinese loved creating and enrolling for some fucked up emotional reasons.

But Chatime was nothing until this ah beng made it so popular in Malaysia. He even won in the so tighly contestes market with Orchado, and a few other brands. So Chatime and ah beng both owe each other something

I agree that its bad, but I have to wonder why anyone might be invested into seeing it go down.

As to just neglectfully just letting it waste away on its own without giving a fuck.

Sometimes having social internet justice warrior ain't a bad thing lah...

They still got sales coz they always giving out random discounts.

wow since when you appointed the judge to this case? The case still not settled but you've already drawn your conclusion?

Yeah same like 1MDB...MO1 innocent yo...my bad...I shouldn't have jumped to conclusion...

Nevermind that legal documents have been shared online....we should wait till someone pronounce guilty cos we don't know nothing...

This post has been edited by eXTaTine: Nov 7 2017, 02:38 PM

can order less sugar mah

btw, there's pearl milk tea from polka. taste almost identical, minus the choking hazard


sit-rep, tealive 1U,tesco kepong still in business

so how are you related to chatime?

still alot lala amoi q for that..

Koi is the best

i thought Chatime is back?
read somewhere that they will open more branch this year, what happen to that?
dont see any Chatime also

yes already saw 1-2 outlet over there ... tea business expanding there ....

Sussessful..

The way I see it, there is as much possibility that Chatime became greedy and did not supported the business here which at one point was so oversaturated and crowded.

I mean, if he really scammed and did the above and he isn't a good leader, then the next logical question is:

a) Why >90% of the franchisee followed him instead of going with Chatime?
b) I thought Chatime wanted to sue him? What happened to that?
c) If his ingredients sucks why Tealive still so popular?

The way you position yourself makes me wonder

Recently got open at Aeon mall shah alam, that outlet owned by Tomok, some celebrity. Surely can laku keras with celebrity vibe to it.

A) he made the first move and most of the franchises open by family member.

B) they reached settlement outside of court.

C) cheap and abundant. Popular? That depends. It definitely not popular with those patrons who can afford proper beverages like starbucks or coffee bean. Personally, I drink Royal Tea is much better.

Tealive is for students or poor people. Cheap brand with cancer inducing products.

somehow after Chatime return , they rarely do promotion , not as aggressive as Mr Loob .

In term of quality, still teatime wins hands down , do not have faith with Tealive since they change the Tea formula themselves while still under chatitme brand.

i didnt like to drink it

chatime actually alive also. main franchisor gives to another franchise...

so I am waiting both chatime and tealive open next to each other.. HHahahahahhhah this will be epic

I can answer "A" because most if not all of the franchisee is family members and really close friends

The KOI ftw~

dont ever try the one in Nexus Bangsar South, can straight give u diabetes after one sip

Haven't had chatime for a long time. I kinda miss it. Heard it will reduce my manliness though lel

In the beginning I actually liked chatime..now haven't tried in a few years already

TeaLive taste is so inconsistent...sometimes good sometimes taste like shit

chatime better

a) valid reason, but I find it hard to believe that 160+ of his franchisee are made out of his friends and family, and that all of them are willing to risk business and their investments over "bad quality ingredients, and whatever negative reasons people are throwing towards tealive"

b) oh i didn't know this. in that case we'll never know the terms agreed upon and who holds the bigger blame (im sure both are to be blamed, just who is bigger)

c) different market and this cannot be compared. one is tea one is coffee. some people are either tea drink or coffee drinker, and some people like both and can patron both brands.
plus i wouldn't call starbucks and coffeebean "proper". but if we keep it strictly to tea, they are still one of the most popular establishment.

and perhaps being cheap is an advantage being in the business. and for all you know, maybe this started from chatime franchisor not wanting to allow price adjustments (i dunno, forex increase maybe?) and causing chatime's margin to be eroded and price to eventually be increased. perhaps the reason why they can still thrive right now is because they can be flexible in procuring ingredients locally which is not subjected to forex fluctuations, and as such allows the franchise to maintain their prices and not increase it. Compare with other more premium tea in the market that are import based, they tend to be more expensive (like Koi for example).

I'm not trying to side him, but I'm trying to think from a businessman point of view and as much as there are many defense for Chatime, there is as many for Tealive too.
But many of Chatime's defense given by people here are hogwash because it won't be thriving right now if it is really that bad tasting or having subpar ingredient.

Even your claims of 'cancer inducing products' is all emotional reasons used. There is no proof nor indication that they sourced from companies that uses such ingredients. And such a reason only is applicable to their tea with pearl bubbles. Many of their drinks do not have pearl bubbles. So even this reason is weak.

Unless there are strong reasons put forward, I can't help feel but many people are just butthurt with some dude with a stuckup face that made a brilliant business move in circumstances not fully understood by everyone and that resulted in success. And it's easy to butthurt at that dude cause of his face

see above reply

they bukak sampai vietnam liao. how u think they're doing?

His character isn't something to admire.. sorry, business is all about reputation and this fella just shot his foot up.

There is a proper way to break a master franchise agreement and there is an improper way. Loo did it the improper way.

Also, if you intend to cheat your way through business and commit unethical behaviour, by all means, please follow Loo.

I tried tealive once, and found it bland. From a purely business ROI perspective, tealive is not so good to invest and open. Reason being, low margin of profit as compared to other kind of beverages.

I agree

Menu sound similar

But taste much worse

Tea this tea that. Last2 teh beng top it all.

Not going to argue on his character because I do not know him. Nor am I supporting him, because what I am doing is just giving that guy a balance against what I feel are very emotional but unusable accusations.

When you say 'proper' way to break a master franchise agreement, I faintly recall that Chatime franchisor was the one that went on the offensive by coming to Malaysia to terminate the agreement and tried a takeover? I got it from articles that was written during the time of the hoohaa. Not sure what was Chatimes reasoning, but who was the one that went on the offensive first?

And I have to agree on the ROI portion. But that makes it even more so interesting that people with lots to lose are willing to follow this guy, friends or not.
Everything doesn't add up to what is said against him

In reality, people wont care about him much if you ask me.

Customer will still go for it because they're craving for it or it is nearby, this is all about their marketing strategy.
And everyone had diff taste as well, you find it tastes bad but other will find it average. Business is like that when they're getting known by the peoples, hope this answer your query.

This is very true, many people i talk to about how crap tealive taste had the assumption that chatime changed name to tealive and know nothing about the dispute that happen. I've even seen customers trying to use the tealive member card at the new chatime outlets and chatime staff had to explain that it's a different company.

Regardless tealive is a Malaysian brand, belilah barangan buatan Malaysia, harumkan nama Malaysia di antarabangsa macam MO1, now vietnam, next the world?

He is a go-getter for sure and a formidable person with a willingness to take short cut and unethical approaches. I.e. using cheaper ingredients when he already had agreement with chatime to use theirs and steal the existing chatime shops to his tealive brand.

I think loo already made the first move by undercutting chatime supplier and not paying his master franchise agreement. That is the first true move. Given his cunning, i bet he already planned to execute this move from the start.

Chatime was never really a franchise. He only allowed close business partners, friends and relatives to invest. The rest, he open himself, with help of his rich father.

Sure, he can survive now that he has a monopoly. Time will only tell whether business close down or expands. Me personally, I think it will eventually close down. I cant see how selling oversaturated bubble tea can operate in so many shops and locations. The high labour cost, shop rental and logistics involved will just kill tealive. How does one maintain their quality and standards? It's just not sustainable.

This post has been edited by the99percent1: Nov 7 2017, 04:56 PM

im actually waiting for that too.. will be another viral news haha

where to buy this?

is it just me or Tealive owner face expression/style is the same as the famous Dato Seri?

chatime came to msia to takeover is bcos loob using 3rd party ingredients n breaking the contract, its loob who started it, loob is very unethical, they use 3rd party ingredients but still wan act innocent then come out open tealive

u can say its loob who brought up chatime, but a contract is a contract and loob have to honour it even if it means paying more for chatime ingrrdients instead of cheaper 3rd party ingredients, but this is how franchise operates, cannot complain, and loob decided to break the trust given to him by chatime

doublepost

This post has been edited by rooney723: Nov 7 2017, 05:36 PM

triplepost

This post has been edited by rooney723: Nov 7 2017, 05:36 PM

Malaysian pride. Lol.

very simple question , who brought this in last time and when did it start being available?

I thought chatime is tealive? Different meh? I just had superior coco yesterday, i can't tell the difference between chatime and tealive

Tealive one utama got pipul always beratur liao

Chatime tw brought it to supermarkets. No contract is broken.

I doubt Loo has full control on all chatime products that can be sold or not. He only bubble-tea shop franchise holder. He doesnt hold any exclusivity for all products.

So again, Loo is the one who made the first move to cut the franchise.

He bought from local supplier, you say leh.

I help you , you help me.

nowadays tealive every month got buy 1 free 1

Tealive sucks, prefer chatime.

Indeed, stealing in day light yet still got ppl supork?? I try their drinks, tasteless

oh shid.... not this subject matter again....

thats why la..sendiri start selling in supermarket. sure its not a franchise contract but it means it has its own expansion plan la. so now end up both team also kaput and will never be as big as its peak time.

Gong Cha in Singapore also have similar issue.