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surehit
post Aug 10 2008, 02:49 AM

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QUOTE(soggie @ Aug 4 2008, 12:11 PM)
STALKER did an okay job in this sense. I hated it when I first started out, with the puny pistol and crappy submachine guns. Then it got better when I got the AK, and pure heaven when I found the HK G36 as well as the silenced sniper rifle. After that, I used to go to dangerous spots, find a high ground and sat there for hours, binoculars trained onto the landscape to observe the virtual safari going on. If I feel evil, I'd pull our the rifle and do some target practice.

It might sound boring but it's a game that I could totally immerse in.
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Hey bro,

I felt exactly the same way too about S.T.A.L.K.E.R. When I first installed it, I got bored after 10-15 mins in the game. Put it aside for months, then recently took it out again and wow, it felt awesome to be a menacing marked one. It has a world one can get totally immersed with. Heck, just let the factions battle it out and watch from the sides as you pick them off with your high powered SVD rifle... brows.gif




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post Aug 13 2008, 02:53 AM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Aug 12 2008, 11:02 PM)
Well fallout 3 was also developed for consoles (there is where Vats comes in).
Its quite puzzling why bethesda fight for the license anyway (after black isle studio liquidated) since its RPG orientated.
F03 now combines a hybrid of First person shooter with role playing game (very few genres out there).
Well if anyone looking to benchmark Fallout 3 with similar game this year it has to be Stalker : Clear sky.
Any takers out there ?

By the way Fallout 3 has become "unbanned" in Australia. They banned it bcos of some drug application (CHEM) in the game.
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It's just like the way the ex-Diablo team who left Blizzard and developed Hellgate. Everybody got a an idea how to better a classic.

Man, I used to love RPG and dislike FPS, but Hellgate changed my mind. And the current Stalker made me love FPS.

So yes, Stalker Clear Sky will be the main competition to Fallout 3. Too bad Stalker does not have leveling up and specialisation/character class.

I just "downloaded" Fallout 2 and replayed it. Still good lar. brows.gif



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post Aug 13 2008, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(soggie @ Aug 13 2008, 08:46 AM)
I don't f**king need to level up to be able to hit targets 100 yards away. In the head. All I need is a good weapon and a scope. That's what Stalker is about. I massacred the army roadblock with a pistol early in the game using some established army-styled tactical movements (run in, bang bang, you're dead, run out and bandage myself, rinse and repeat). I massacred the whole army base with just the Viper (and a lot of bullets) in the same style before I even got to Agropom.

And just imagine if I had to level-up to be able to aim or deal reasonable damage. I'll still be paying shitloads of money to the army guys just to get through the roadblock.

That's the reason why I love the concept of STALKER more than F3 - a Fantastically F*cked-up Flop.
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Dude, the idea of level up to to provide some sorta incentive and variety to a gamer. He can choose which path to take his character: a vet soldier, commando, sniper, raider, bandit, trader etc etc. A trader would be loaded with $$ and can hire soldiers to do his tasks.

I dun think rushing in rushing out is army style. U cannot heal bullet wounds (even if just to arms and legs) in a jiffy. So this is hardly army style.
Now climbing up a high peak with bushes with a high powered sniper rifle + silencer/muffler and taking the soldiers out one by one, now's that real life, that's how d sniper boys do it. And that's how I take out the roadblocks in Stalker.

Now if character development in Fallout 3 is similar to F2, then we can have high sneak and take out the army one by one, whether with a pistol + silencer or just a Rambo knife.


QUOTE(shreaker @ Aug 13 2008, 09:29 AM)
If you're looking looking for an example of a 3rd person shooter - RPG combo, you should take a look at Mass Effect. It's pretty good, though the RPG elements are somewhat less than F1 & F2...
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Mass Effect is revolutionary but it has too much dialogue yak yak yak, kills that action. If I want to see dialogue and drama, I'll go watch a movie. FPS should be about bang bang!! I do like d romance and sex between characters though, now that's new.


QUOTE(killdavid @ Aug 13 2008, 11:49 AM)
isometric turn based games rules.
My favs are Fallout 2 and Jagged Alliance 2.
There is news that JA3 coming out.
Any JA fans here?
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Ya man, called me an oldie, but isometric is da best!! Still love Diablo 1, 2, Dungeon Siege 2 and Titan Quest for it.

Playing Fallout 2 now. Syok lar, love d gatling guns. JA 2 is one of my all time fav. Too bad they dun make games like they used to do.
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post Aug 15 2008, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(mukhlisz @ Aug 13 2008, 05:39 PM)
then no Planescape Torment for u then.  laugh.gif i for one don't mind if they yak a lot, as long as they yak good.  tongue.gif

and romance in RPGs is not rly new. they had it in KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Planescape Torment, Neverwinter Nights ( although the female NPCs in NWN2 sucked donkey balls...  doh.gif )

however, no romance in Fallout that i remember. was too busy killing rats..  laugh.gif
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No this kinda "romance"



QUOTE(soggie @ Aug 14 2008, 08:10 AM)
My friend, you must have missed my sarcasm.

BTW, real snipers don't climb up high peaks. They tend to avoid obvious sniper spots and always have a getaway because most of the time, they shoot and flee.
Let's hope they make this one right. I hated STALKER's sneak system.
Gats? C'mon, do it like a man. Use a gauss rifle. Gats are for meat heads and lasers are for sissies. Nice melting animation though.
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Dat's the real world lar bud. Hope you're not confusing STALKER with the Ranger sniping school - hoo ah. brows.gif BTW, Stalker had a sneak system? :confused:

Well, I didn't play so far to reach/get the Gauss Rifle part. Remember this is playing for "retro" sake. Just to fill time till F3 arrive. whistling.gif


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