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post Apr 15 2008, 08:05 PM

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Looks promising based on the preview i've read from Gamespot.

Graphics looks awesome. There's nothing more satisfying than to shred super mutants using an Avenger minigun in full 3D, all hail the bloody mess trait.

Still, I wonder whether The Enclave will make an appearance. Few survived, routed and demoralized...we'll be back!!

CURSE The Brotherhood Of Steel!!!!

I do like the prospect of playing Fallout through the 1st person perspective which gives you a totally new unique experience, if you don't like it, you can revert back to the tradisional isometric view. Imagine examining a Turbo Plasma Rifle or a Power Armor up close in all it's high quality texture glory.

This is a game I can't wait. Plus I also can't wait to sleep with whores and kill children (oh boy, negative karma for sure hehe)

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QUOTE(cracksys @ Apr 15 2008, 08:32 PM)
err ... there are no option for isometric view. you can change 1st person to 3rd person and zoom out until it looks like an isometric view (you can't do anything like real isometric view like clicking mouse to select enemy, etc)
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If that's the case, then it's a pseudo-isometric perspective then. Works for me biggrin.gif

So long as it stays true to what originally made the game a success, 1st or 3rd person wouldn't be an issuela.

The important elements Bethesda should focus on are the storyline and gameplay.
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There are some Deathclaws to play with in Fallout Tactics...

IMO, nah..Deathclaws are insignificant (*pathetic creatures* muahahaha I tortured many during my stint at Navarro) drool.gif

I hope Bethesda at the very least include the Enclave Advanced Power Armor in Fallout 3...those inferior Brotherhood Of Steel Power Armors are a joke!!!

As well as the Vertibird (the Enclave Air Transport)

LONG LIVE THE ENCLAVE!!! rclxms.gif


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yeah..Whores!! Just what us troopers need

It's been some time since i've been to New Reno to have a lil R&R hehe


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post Jun 15 2008, 03:57 PM

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Fall 2008...

If you can run Oblivion, then you can run Fallout 3 since both games are developed using the same Gamebryo engine.

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ENCLAVE FOR THE WIN!!

Hmmm, I wonder if the player character can join them...

I wanna enlist smile.gif
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The Fat Man aka Portable Nuke Catapult is a really dumb idea...

And a teddy bear capable of decapitating people....riight

Food scattered in the wasteland are edible...yeah, with all that radiation, I bet it does haha

I guess realism isn't one of Bethesda's priorities. And if you guys noticed, they changed the Enclave's advanced power armor design. It looks more like the BOS power armor from Fallout Tactics *shakes head in disappointment*



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I still think the teddy bear decapitation is ridiculous...

If a teddy bear is launched at a high velocity, the drag will rip it apart completely before it even reaches the opponent since its not a solid material. Secondly, a teddy bear is not sharp, so how the hell is it going to decapitate an opponent? Why not just retain the old gauss rifle?

Hypothetically, it might cause a few damage if the opponent targeted is adjacent to the player character but not more than that.

I also hope Bethesda rectifies the squatting AI issue...











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Apart from the FAT MAN!!, Decapitating Teddy Bear and revised Enclave Power Armor, I think F3 will be great

Hope someone makes a mod for the old bad ass Enclave Power Armor...maybe a mod that brings Myron back cos I need my JET

Color map mod for the pip boy anyone? or maybe a fusion cell powered car? Brothels to get laid? hahahaha




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post Jul 23 2008, 11:57 AM

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I guess the game will be great in its own right as a shooter with RPG elements. But if we were to compare it with its predecessors, well then.... that's a different story altogether.












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QUOTE(hfi @ Jul 23 2008, 06:57 PM)
Cant believe ppl already judging the game from nothing but a trailer! Are people still wanting to play a 2D game ? We're at a stage where technology allows developers to produce an immersive game world and introduce better game play.

So the game looks like Oblivion, so is that a bad thing ? Oblivion is wicked and has put single player rpg into another level. It worked and proven successful. Its a benchmark hence why people already comparing games to it.

Wait for the release, play the game and judge it. Otherwise its just a premature ejaculation of unnecessary rant.
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I beg to differ. Oblivion was far from being a true RPG. All quests in the game had only 1 outcome and NPCs were basically quest dispensers (no real interaction, only generic dialogs).

Bethesda had omitted the role in a role-playing game...

You want a "real RPG benchmark"? I'll take the Baldur's Gate Series, Planescape Torment and Interplay's Fallout series as epic examples.....those are real RPGs with sophisticated characters and consequences (or positive outcomes) for every decision the player character makes (plenty of role-playing goodness).






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QUOTE(kyLL @ Jul 24 2008, 05:57 PM)
probably a brighter move would have been to spinoff a more FPS form of fallout eh?

but who knows. what are the people across the oceans in amerika and europe saying?  are we the only ones making noise about this?
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Nope, we're not the only ones hehe...

You want to see REAL Fallout 3 (and Bethesda) bashing, then head over to NO MUTANTS ALLOWED...your friendly hardcore Fallout community smile.gif where thousands of Fallout fans criticize and lambast at Bethesda's attempt in rejuvenating the Fallout franchise...They are harsh yet speak the TRUTH!!

http://www.nma-fallout.com/ rclxms.gif

Beware you have been warned...

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Oblivion is fun if you install all the great mods...

Without the mods, it feels like an unpolished gem (stiff animations,opaque water surfaces,ugly UI etc etc). After having installed 34 mods...Oblivion plays much better smile.gif

Nowadays, it seems that game developers tend to focus more on visuals rather than gameplay. As a result, the end product is eye candy from top to bottom but severely lacking in substance...(like a beautiful girl with low intelligence)

Hmmm...I guess that's what today's gamers go for. So, Fallout 3 seems to be heading that way as well. hmm.gif




P/S - I think this is cooler..hehe

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Aug 4 2008, 02:40 PM)
Some games has poor looting system (ie : witcher & oblivion) while others has tons of it (hellgate & diablo) it depends on the gameplay lo.
Speaking of which, fallout 3 really resembles stalker atmosphere & theme (hope it was not as buggy though).
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The Witcher may have a poor looting system but the storyline and character interaction are top-notch.

It's probably the only 2007 RPG game worth playing. PC Gamer US's RPG guru Desslock even gave it an editor's choice award which it thoroughly deserves.

As for Oblivion, the balance leveling system can be disabled by installing a mod known as Francesco's leveled creatures mod. To me, the TRUE highlight of Oblivion is its mods. I've been playing Oblivion since 2006 and I still enjoy playing it since Oblivion modders constantly release epic mods for the game. There are just so many mods to play with...

Most of these mods enhance players' immersion of the game (as well as address most of the issues plaguing the game particularly the stilt-like animation). Vanilla Oblivion sucks BUT with the mods installed, it becomes the best pseudo RPG that you'll ever come across, IMHO of course. Oblivion is like a BMW M5, when it's not in M mode it sucks...but once the M mode is engaged, it becomes the very best sports sedan ever!!



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QUOTE(soggie @ Aug 11 2008, 06:23 PM)
Can somebody list out the essential mods to change Oblivion into something that can actually be enjoyed? tongue.gif
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Here are some cool ones:

Realistic Physics and Force Package (enables the player character to react realistically to physical blows and spell damage as well as the ability to lift dead bodies up)

Natural Environments

Better Water (enables water refraction...no more opaque water surfaces!!)

BT mod (major UI overhaul)

Simple Compass (less bulky compass)

Color Map

Colored Health

Actors In Charge (enables player character and NPC to emote and pose)

Danis13 Beauty Faces (higher resolution texture for faces)

Gorier Blood

Illumination Within (buildings light up at night)

Ren's Beauty Plus Soya Hair package

Francesco's Leveled Creatures (disables level scaling system)

Better Nightsky (cool nebula and planets)

BSA patcher (run this program once you've installed every mod so that they work properly)


You can get download them from - http://www.tesnexus.com/

Oh ya...there's another interesting mod known as Qarl's Texture Pack 3. It's a 1.7 GB mod which increases the resolution of meshes and textures in Oblivion by FOUR times the resolution of vanilla Oblivion. This mod makes everything in the game look much much more photo realistic (Oblivion looks a little bit like Crysis after applying this mod haha) but has a severe impact on performance. Go download it if you're crazy enough...

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Mostly screenshots showcasing the action element of the game...looks pretty

Wonder where are all the screenshots showcasing the interaction system? So far I've seen only 2 or 3...


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I think the VATS is poorly implemented and will probably be irrelevant in this game. Why bother incorporating the feature into a First Person Shooter. As if we need a system to help us aim.

VATS was clearly designed for a turn-based isometric gameplay and not real time. In real time FPS, we don't need a system to help us aim, we do it ourselves since there's something called the crosshair...

Most people would probably just blast their way past the game's AI rather than going through the tedious task of pausing the game using the system, aim at a specific limb, fire, and watch a repetitive death sequence.
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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Aug 12 2008, 11:02 PM)
Well fallout 3 was also developed for consoles (there is where Vats comes in).
One of Bethesda's biggest mistakes is trying to develop F3 for multiple platforms.

As a result, I'm afraid the PC version will be dumbed down to accommodate consoles which is in reminiscent of Deus Ex: Invisible War...







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QUOTE(soggie @ Aug 29 2008, 03:21 PM)
Actually, I kind of dreaded the fights in big cities (e.g. New Reno) because it'd take eons before I get to move again. But I loved every single part of it. FPS changed everything. Just put it this way - turn Final Fantasy Tactics or Ogre Tactics into a real-time 3D squad-based game and call it FF Tactics 2 or something. See if the fans are ecstatic about it.
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I kinda like fights in New Reno since I get to see hookers and drug addicts kill each other (provoke someone into spraying an automatic weapon into a crowd). When I get bored, I'll just vaporize/shred/burn/stab everyone to death. Maximum violence at its best smile.gif. As for the FPS perspective, I hope someone from the modding community will whip up an isometric mod. Plus I think the Lady Killer/Black Widow perk is silly since the original Fallout's gameplay was never about gender preferences. They should exclude that from the final product.

Anyone seen a Turbo Plasma Rifle in the game?? I want to turn people into red goo...



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QUOTE(Fyonne @ Aug 29 2008, 04:37 PM)
well for gender stuff. if they can make a lil different from it (like fallout 2, minimally though) well it should be great as replay value playing as males slightly differ than playing with female character.
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The perk offers increased damage against the opposite sex (why not just increase the player character's offensive skills). Black Widow/Lady Killer also offers extra dialogue options when interacting with members of the opposite sex (why not just increase CHARISMA and the speechcraft skill to receive extra dialogue options). It's totally pointless since there are skills that confer these benefits. I wouldn't be complaining if Bethesda had included a perk which allows me to show obscene gestures to members of the opposite sex, now that would be much more refreshing and unique.




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