Just to say about the high reviews, journalism in video games isn't really at a good standard.  People can be bought out.  I remember some dude saying Kane and Lynch was shit on like...Gamespot I think, and he was fired soon after because Eidos complained.

So yeah.  Not saying all reviewers and reviews are like that, but just be wary.

I personally ignore the scores and just read the thing and look out for concrete things.  Less of "It feels like you're in an apocalyptic world" and more of the "The combat system uses a combination of AP, hit percentages and..." parts.

I have to say, hell its all about the consoles nowadays. Makes me wonder what else does the PC has in its sleeves, still missing some good games.

Yeah consoles are great for people with short attention spans . Seriously...in days like these...I would just say hold on and have some faith. We will get our time in the near future with rage, L4d, DoW2, ETW and heck HL2 Episode 3. All PC games made for the PC. OOooo Dragon AGe too.

u 4got sc2.

That's a bad way to judge a game, I personally thought The Witcher was going to be rubbish as it was made by a new company, but when I played it, it was wayyyy better than I thought. The contains full blown nudity though

If they made Fallout 3 as hard as the prequels, they would obvious be selling wayyyy less copies of the game. I would also say that if you guys keep on complaining about this game, you are disrupting the gameplay discussion of this game.

Ermmm maybe I should play arcanum afterall.brb downloadan

If most of the game are suited to newbies.What's left for us old timers to enjoy?Just change the difficulty izzit?

I'm hoping SC2 would change that.

But games in general nowadays are made to be newbie friendly. Spoon feeding and don't leave the retarded kid behind. Political correctness in the gaming industry - that's the future.

That's why id software created RAGE and not Quake 5 with wheels in a wasteland in the first place.

its 'ahem' version. is there a problem with xlive.dll?

Actually, I was thinking more on the lines of making Quake 5 into a top-down shooter game. That'll REALLY piss some people off. Or Gears of War 3 as a platformer. Or Starcraft 3 as a hiking simulator.

but newtards won't get it. they'll just assumed pissed people as an un-based whiner

MBS stands for Multiple building selection. I personally don't see what is so wrong to building multiple units through multiple building selection, you could even do it in Warcraft anyway.

i think most rpg noobs here never really touched a good well crafted rpg, cause i think in the last years (decade) theres only a handful of games that i would say like damn this IS great.

far as i can think of

kotor

and erm

kotor?

another reason why Beth nerfed down their games. brats just don't want challenge anymore.

I can tell you that there are definetely people like us around. We are what big time devs/publishers call as a niche these days...

Western developers seem to be too preoccupied with streamlining(this is not bad), simplyfying their games simply because they believe that will allow them to maximise their sales. Gone are the days were you used to call an RPG a CRPG and literally they were computerised versions of these table top games(this is also the same with strategy games but wargames still survive...a very small niche).

Developers/publishers like Stardock are very much in the old school of thought. They make games hardcore fans of 4X games want to play.

Also the rise of Eastern European developers are something to keep your eye on.  Their games are more inspired by really old school game mechanics and have that charm of old games.

Way off topic...this deserves a separate topic really...I think the strategy gamers would have their own opinion too...considering Relic is hellbent in thinking they need to 'revive' RTS by removing certain things...

PS : I don't think streamlining is a bad thing...It's just that some developers that use that term dumb down their game and say that is streamlining...That is bad streamlining...good streamlining is like what Civ 4 did...They don't remove the depth...they make it easier to manage different levels of information...

It can also be argued that dumbing down of depth is also more of a console centric development approach(I'm sure you know what I mean when they talk about attention span etc)...but as i said...way off topic...