Nice article there, didn't know people conduction such 'classes'.

Fallout itself acclaimed it's cult status not by commercial sales but by its content. So does System Shock and Deus Ex. But those 2 are action game with RPG element anyway.

If Fallout was a commercial success like Baldur's gate, many people will have played it.

And more people will b**** how Bethesda ruined Fallout.

Good thing Interplay is back online and working on Fallout MMO...*gulp*

This post has been edited by zioburosky13: Oct 23 2008, 09:51 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interplay_Ent...out_online_game

Boom baby!

Let's just hope it's good ol' Interplay goodness again. No news about Black Isle tho, the studio that developed Fallout 1/2.

Well i think everybody here fears what happen to diablo (3) almost.
Previously the main production head of diablo series went to create hellgate london (spiritual successor to diablo series). Needless to say that it make big changes just like what bethesda did (isometric to first person). Then a new confirmed diablo 3 is really coming out to clear off this rubbish.

In its own, fallout 3 is a decent game (without comparison to its predecessor). But a deviation from its beloved series will off course turn most old fans off but generate new fans as well. Company in mocern era will always approach the "cannibalisation" where they want the new game to outscore the previous game.

If anyone hoping for a better company to acquire the fallout IP last time, it should be BIOWARE but bioware never continue others work. Their trend is pretty simple nowadays old school r & d (nws & dragonage), then space fantasy (Kotor, mass effect). Bioware always like D & D series and maybe due to some respect left for its fellow compatriot they left the IP acquisition.

Fallout 3 is a crap..if I am a neutral gamer who had played Obiliviobns before, I would probably say Fallout 3 is a crap too. yeah, cannibalization works for MS and most of other companies just because they did produce something comparably good than their last product. Beth tried but not by creating better game but by pouring much2 more money on hype. in the end, you get a Game of the Year in your hand which looks farkin similar with Obalwovion


no, Troika.

To be fair, Bioware's only good game is Baldur's Gate series.

The rightful studio that should make Fallout 3 is Troika Games, ex-Interplay employee and original makers of Fallout - Tim Cain, Leonard Boyarsky and Jason Anderson.

Boyarsky expressed his thought when Bethesda acquired the rights of Fallout 3
" To be perfectly honest, I was extremely disappointed that we did not get the chance to make the next Fallout game. This has nothing to do with Bethesda, it's just that we've always felt that Fallout was ours and it was just a technicality that Interplay happened to own it. It sort of felt as if our child had been sold to the highest bidder, and we had to just sit by and watch. Since I have absolutely no idea what their plans are, I can't comment on whether I think they're going in the right direction with it or not."

Btw, Boyarsky is the lead world designer of Diablo 3, Tim Cain is working with NCsoft, Jason Anderson joined Interplay as creative director for an unannounced MMO.

This post has been edited by zioburosky13: Oct 25 2008, 09:01 AM

Seconded. The BG series was their greatest achievement. NWN and Mass Effect were great but not comparable to the superb quality of the BG series.

If Troika had acquired the rights to make Fallout 3, it would be a spectacular RPG worthy of being a successor to the last installment (with numerous bugs of course, typical of all Troika games). Fallout 3 would still be TB with isometric view in full 3D glory and the main emphasis of the game would be on the storyline and choice and consequence and not VATS and BLOODY MESS. Most importantly, the game would only be made for the PC crowd. Unfortunately, that didn't materialize and we get Todd Howard and Bethesda in a nice little package instead.

A few days left before F3 (Bethesda Edition) comes out. I can envision the sight of console kiddies getting incredible excited at the VATS and the over the top gore of F3. Can't say the same for Fallout fans though...

anyone pre oder from steam?

no way~~~ way to much expensive

49.99 x around 3.5 RM174.90 ......

TSB still cant confirm release date for fallout 3... seem it would be later than 28 oct

This post has been edited by Edison83: Oct 27 2008, 11:20 AM

Its RM179.39 based on 3.588 conversion rate...not very flattering...I know...so much for Steam this year(and next year)...wont look too good.

Whoa...so many people bashing Fallout 3 before the full game is out and playable. Give it a try. Maybe you'll love em? It would certainly be better than Brotherhood of Steel...

Anyway, do you guys expect Fallout 3 to be like its original? Isometric but with 3D graphics?

Stop beating the stawman my friend. When Morrowind came up, fans of Daggerfall cried foul for the vastly smaller map and more linear main quest. Then people said play it before you judge. So people buy it and it sold like hot cakes. Turns out it wasn't very good. Then came Oblivion. Again the morrowind fans cried foul for the even smaller world in Oblivion, but then again people say buy it before you judge. And then Oblivion came out, and guess what, again it sucked. And now you're basically saying the same thing.

How many times do you need to get screwed in the arse to finally realize that you're being sodomized?

Now about isometric with 3D graphics, anything wrong with it? I don't see Blizzard suddenly turning Diablo 3 into an FPS. I don't see Bioware turning Neverwinter Nights 2 into FPS. Try turning Final Fantasy into a FPS and see how the fans take it. Try turning starcraft 2 into a command & conquer control scheme and see how the fans take it. Try turning Crysis 3 into third person and see how the fans take it. Heck, try turning The Elder Scrolls 5 into isometric AND see how the Oblivion fans take it!

It's not about FPS pwns isometric or vice versa. The genre is best represented via isometric, and to change that is to alienate the entire fan base who got used to what they came to love as one of the best part of the game itself (aside from the incredible world and non-linear quest lines).

Seems like somebody here needs to pull their heads out of bethesda's PR machine's arse before they realize why fallout fans are so upset about FO3 being FPS.

i sum up what soggie trying to say as .. Beth is evveeellll!!

no mather how bethesda put it... fallout 3 is definately a FPS in its roots. Even with VATS it still doesn't show the full use of action points like the turn based fallout 1 & 2.

Saddening in a sense but i suggest lets try not to think of fallout 3 as the fallout 3 to enjoy the game... instead treat it maybe as a separate genre of fallout game which is following the shooters path. Like fallout tactics, something which stems out of the original fallout into a SRPG genre.

This post has been edited by Remedy: Oct 27 2008, 08:51 PM

why must we look at it as another spin off .. why can't beth change its name to really depict its spin-off-ness.

i will cry, i will post, i will condemn it in any way .. until Mutant Rising is finish .

So tomorrow's the day Fallout 3 is released. Anyone excited?

I'm gonna go to the nearest "retailer" to acquire my copy.

Is it really coming out tomolow?

TSB stated at their website "Expected Oct 28"

Hmmm...I loved Morrowind and Oblivion. I didn't find much fault in them. Maybe I'm not hardcore enough. But I do know I dislike FFXII for being "realtime" instead of being the traditional "turnbased".

Originally, I didn't like the way Mass Effect was being turned into FPS too. But after playing it, I felt the move was wholly justified. Maybe Fallout 3 will not please the established fan base. I don't know. I'll get Fallout 3 no matter what. Just hope the side missions aren't as bad as those in Far Cry 2.

can't wait for tomorrow!! i'll post some review on it as soon as i get my hands on them

So, it's coming out tomorrow eh?