Do yourself a favor and go play Fallout and Fallout 2. Yes the graphic is very 90-era. But in terms of gameplay they are still way better than most so call 'RPG' game this day.

EDIT: People are saying the game is indeed sucks and not a true-Fallout game .

This post has been edited by zioburosky13: Nov 2 2008, 06:55 AM

VATS is basically bullet time coated with SPECIAL.
If Bethesda wants to make a first person shooter, they can.
If Bethesda wants to make a turn-based combat game, they can.
Instead, what we have seen is a hybrid combat system which cannot appeal both 2 types of gamers.

EDIT: Don't bother playing as a charismatic character. Charisma is useless in FO3 because of the shitty dialog.

This post has been edited by zioburosky13: Nov 2 2008, 09:10 AM

Guess what? I find STALKER and STALKER CS are more fun to play than FO3. FO3 doesn't suck, it the result of how a company screwed up an original idea and concept and design by manually dumbing down with the purpose of maximizing corporate profit for console kids who have jackshit idea of what a tabletop RPG game is and taking away elements that makes the previous titles a true classic game (the isometric view, multiple choice and consequence based on your character's skills rather than relying on player's trigger happy reflex, turn-based yet challenging combat).
Another recent dumb down victim is Deus Ex
*"Stealth will now rely on a cover system rather than shadows, and damage will be dealt with by a very Call of Duty-style auto-heal." *



Jeff Gerstmann from Gamespot, was fired when he gave Kane & Lynch a 6 out of 10 score.
Just because a game received a high score doesn't mean it's a game game. Game journalism has hit the bottom down recently and bullied by game publisher. If you don't give a good score to a game, you won't have access to the future titles of that company. No games, no review, no job, no money. Simple.



If I want to give a review score to Fallout 3, it's 5 out of 10. For it is a medicore first person shooter with uninspired in game mechanic. The game it not junk, it is really, really bad. From a perspective of a first person shooter gamer.
From a perspective of a RPG player, it's only a medicore 'RPG' game compare to The Witcher and Gothic 3.



Fallout 3 is developed with the aim on a Console machine. And the last console Fallout game ever released is Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel, or Fallout: Piece of Shit among Fallout fans. See the odds?


Game modification has the purpose to add more fun element, rather than fixing the game play bug a game developer suppose to fix.


Here's some sites with good reading materials.
Diablo 3 vs. Fallout 3: How to Make a Proper Sequel
Diablo 3: More RPG and isometric is a gameplay style
Bethesda can suck it! By Blizzard
More French on Fallout 3: It sucks!
Diablo 3's isometric angle: It's all about the gameplay
The rise and fall of Troika game. Former studio formed by ex-Interplay and creator of Fallout
Fallout 3 would sell well on the Xbox, but that's more due to Oblivion fanboys thinking it will be Oblivion with guns.
Bethesda owns the right of Fallout, in 2007 news
Oblivion , scored 60% out of 100%
Fallout revisited at RPG Watch
Star Trek Gamer fan site blacklisted by Bethesda
D&D started it all...
FO3 and the Future
The wonderful world of Fallout 3
Fallout 3 is Oblivion 2
VATS slow motion may be the worst crime against video gaming
Don't buy the Hype by Bradylama, complete with background history and development progress of Fallout 1 and 2 until 3.
Students of Fallout (My favorite )
The Rybicki Maneuver. When to praise and when to criticize: a how-to guide

This post has been edited by zioburosky13: Nov 3 2008, 12:59 AM

Relying on fans to put out a patch to fix the bugs of a game is a sign of laziness for game developer. Unless they are closed down and no more official support from them.

Here's another fine example why FO3 is not well-liked by Fallout fans.
When Doom 3 was released, some of the hardcore fans criticize the game had turned into a corridor shooter, which is unlike previous Doom titles which involves large amounts of enemies, large, open areas, and various hidden rooms.
The next year Half life was released and it is still one of the highest rated FPS game. Valve knew they cannot go toe-to-toe with id's software so rather focusing on graphic, they introduce physical gameplay element which took FPS game to the next level.
Valve could just release a Half-life game with adrenaline pumping and tons of monster to shoot, but they know that's not what makes Half Life unique among other FPS game out there. Valve hasn't release a new graphic engine since HL2. They improved it step-by-step. And the rest of the story is history.

Compare the above story with Bethesda and you get the idea why Bethesda so called 'next-gen' and 'immersion' are nothing but marketing gimmick to push their product by sacrificing what makes a game truly memorable - the gameplay.
Example: Tetris doesn't have shiny graphic when it was released yet it became a worldwide phenomenon due to its gameplay.

Wait till you get to the next few town. *sarcasm*



Also, the game contains some pop culture reference. - a zombie film, a cyberpunk film and a video game's weapon.
Anyone can name them all will get a cookie from Ernie the deathclaw.

You guys actually play a fps game in normal difficulty mode? *sarcasm*

Because FALLOUT itself is a cult classic. Back when it was released, RPG game was announced dead because of numerous similar 'me too!!!' game title and every of them have elves and dragon. Elves and f***ing dragon! JUST LIKE TODAY'S MMO and every f***ing 'RPG' game!!!
Fallout came out with the theme of 50-era post nuclear apocalyptic wasteland theme, with the world is in desert form and blood thirsty giant creature roam around. It proofs there are still hope and people will buy and play a RPG game even it has no fantasy theme in it.
And look how people treat it now...
It's like someone has take your favorite music, remix it into techno version. The end result can be a)wonderful and better than original or b)a piece of shit work.



Because of how Bethesda has cheat and manipulated people who have jack shit of idea how to do a proper sequel. If Bethesda is USA, Todd Howard and Pete Hines will be George W.Bush and d*** Cheney, both are clueless and liar.

EDIT: YOU caN'T blame D.I.C.K Cheney for having the name of D.I.C.K...

This post has been edited by zioburosky13: Nov 3 2008, 08:25 PM

Magazine review has the tendency of lying because the reviewer are forced to.
If him/she praise SC2 for being a superior game, I wouldn't skeptic about it. But this is Bethesda we are talking about. They have the balls to ruined their own Ip, the elder scrolls series by dumbing it down from Daggerfall to Oblivion.

Search the sentence 'Daggerfall also expanded on the impressive lore created for Arena' and read the whole thing.

And after felt cheated by playing TES: Oblivion and how they treated Star Trek gamers, I lost any respect for Bethesda now.

If it's a shit, it's still a shit. You can't say it's a chocolate tart.


Imagine your are waiting a sequel for your favorite game for the last 10 years and only to find it has been brutally changed, strip out its original gameplay and idea while replaced by 3rd class writing and concept building. then you will get the taste of it.
Not just Fallout fans b****, even Star Trek fans are fed-up with Bethesda's work
Do I find Fallout 3 enjoyable? Yes on some point. But is it worth high praise? Not really. I know similar titles out there which are better than it.


Stick with big gun. Once you encounter with super mutant, you will find lot's of minigun and missile launcher. Not to mention some raiders use missile launcher too. Geez...

This post has been edited by zioburosky13: Nov 3 2008, 10:51 PM

Reformat your HD and reinstall EVErything.


Or rather there are too many 'me too!' game titles out there. Portal may not be a best selling title but it quickly generates a large fan base due to its unique first-person puzzle gameplay.

MY GOD!!! WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO HAROLD!!!!

http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic...der=asc&start=0

"Bethesda is a clear example of the fact that regardless of how well a company behaved in the past, it still has the chance to develop into a soulless money-making machine. They've used bullying and scare tactics in an attempt to silence fan communities, and have given no indication that they give a damn what the fans think. In addition to all of that, they have recently made the announcement that they are seeking a community manager[44], a move that appears to further Bethesda's policy of seeking control over fan communities.

The current project lead of Fallout 3 is a man whose development experience is dominated by action games, and turned Bethesda's own in-house adventure franchise into an action franchise. "

This post has been edited by zioburosky13: Nov 4 2008, 08:35 PM

In short, don't call it FALLOUT 3. A number behind a title usually indicate it is a sequel, and sequel usually don't take away the core element of a game while improving it without changing its gameplay.

This post has been edited by zioburosky13: Nov 5 2008, 08:32 AM

You sound just like Ashley Cheng......
when his blog got shot down
"Eurogamer: Why do you think so few RPGs have gone with the isometric perspective - and why did you choose to stick with it?
Because our industry is a technology industry and is very focused on innovation, there's this push to always advance. For us, yeah, we want to advance too, but the camera has nothing to do with that. The camera is a gameplay style, and a vastly unexplored gameplay style, especially with RPGs. It's so under-explored, and it makes for such good gameplay, it's so approachable, it's so eloquent."

And then this forum turns into another Bethesda bootlicker. Don't believe me?
Post any complain on Bethesda's Fallout 3 forum and face the wrath of mindless modder who would ban you instantly.

No point arguing with people who is willing to accept any crap a company chunks out.

Which is why rushing to your foe's face and enter VAT then unload everything you got is a sure way to win a fight.
Wow some strategic...

Bethesda pissed off its own TES Daggerfall fans by releasing TES Morrowind. Then pissing off Morrowind fans with Oblivion.
Now they pissed hardcore Fallout fan by releasing FO3.
Wow some kind of idiot-proof money making way.

Pretty much sums it up, even thought its' target is EA. Bethesda is heading the same way now.


For those people who complain FO3's combat is hard even on easy mode. I wonder:
1)did they play it with a joypad? I mean, fps game with joypad? It's madness!

2)perhaps they haven't play any FPS game before?

This post has been edited by zioburosky13: Nov 7 2008, 08:04 PM

2 words:
Circle strafe and shoot.

Here's a reason why Fallout 3 shouldn't have named as 'Fallout 3':

The reason

The only link between The Romance of Three Kingdom and Ikki Tousen is the character's name.

The main plot of The Romance of Three Kingdom is about political change and struggle, while Ikki Tousen is focus on action. Yet, the creator of Ikki Tousen certainly didn't name his work with a name of 'Three Kingdom'. He just borrowed the plot of this history novel heavily but instead of telling the story with a similar setting like the novel (sophisticated stratagems, deceptions, frauds, trickeries, traps and snares employed by the three kingdoms and their individual characters to compete with each other), Ikki Tousen focus on action and hot teenage school girl with their clothes tear off sometimes during a fight.

Example:
Guan Yu
in history portrait become this


in the manga series.


Bethesda could have named the game a different name. If they want to do a action adventure game with the world setting of Fallout, they should name the game something like Fallout: the east side, which generally, people would have justify it as a Fallout spin-off, but not a sequel. Just because they bought the right of Fallout don't mean they should screwed up the gameplay component.

Just like how Harold


got turned into



This post has been edited by zioburosky13: Nov 10 2008, 07:59 PM

The creator borrowed the characters' name of The Romance of Three Kingdom to use them for his manga.
But atleast he didn't call Ikki Tousen a TRoTK 'spin-off' or 'sequel'.