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post Jul 8 2007, 12:22 AM

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i hope they make the talking in real time like mass effect and dragon age or stalker , deus ex .
in FPS , u need everything in real time !
in 3rd person turn base ( as long its not fps ) , stop or not , still good !

when everything around u moving in real time even ur talking or in ur item screen . everything moves in real time .
i think i overused the " real time "....but it works .
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post Jul 8 2007, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(RangerKarl @ Jul 8 2007, 11:34 AM)
I think he means that while talking, the rest of the world is still moving.
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post Jul 10 2007, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(rebelsoul76 @ Jul 10 2007, 12:47 PM)
ohh THAT real-time.  laugh.gif

but you're kinda wasting ur time during conversations and what if everything happens in real-time, then u may miss an important event somewhere in the Fallout world?
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when things around u stop , the FPS adrenaline experience will be lesser .
Example , stalker , things around moving like usual and your're talking , if u take too long , events will change and something else happends enexpected , BUT , stalker's AI system is good but also bad coz they will die without a reason ( i believe its fixed with a patch ) .
I wanna feel the " Shoot first ask later " , imagine talking with the leader of their enemy and the goons moving around to surround u at the same time , its ur choice to waste time getting surrounded during the conver or u choose to shut up and kick their ass first .
u know ? in Oblivion , while your're falling in mid air , u still get to start a conversation with someone nearby . lol .
ok , thats my personal point of view for this system . lol , it maybe this or maybe not , i dont mind though .

Beth screwed up their own main title , TES : Oblivion missed out lots of good things and gained a few less good things . The story is good but short and gamplay below so-so which makes the game feels empty .

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No one knows how beth would make the combat like , it wont be turn base coz the limitation of FPS .
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post Jul 11 2007, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(soggie @ Jul 11 2007, 05:52 PM)
You misunderstand. Fallout fans DO NOT WANT an FPS out of fallout. There's a reason to turn-based combat, and a good one too. Tactical reasons.

And I'm kind of figuring how they are going to tackle this problem - what will gunnery skills and perception matter when you can head shot a person in real time with skills learnt from CS and Quake 3 Arena?

PS: TES = The Elder Scrolls.
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yep , beth holds the Holy hand greanade now , they do what they want .
The fans can do nth much but to hope the game goes well . I JUST HOPE beth can do something good out with the FPS idea .
The first time i read abt the news in an australian PC mag abt interplay went bankrupt , my heart was broken into pieces .
then came beth , stepping over my pieces and pissed on it .

*you know , we fans or Fallout Lunatics can't do anything much already but to pray and hope beth could create something really....u know ? good . Sometimes we have to give chances to developers to do the games well . nod.gif btw , i hate beth/zenimax like i hate everything elses ( EA ) very much , just they got the bomb and there is no other choices but to support them .

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post Jul 11 2007, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jul 11 2007, 09:05 PM)
You obviously haven't played FO 1&2.


Added on July 11, 2007, 9:10 pm

Actually no. It won't be an FPS. It has been rumored that the game will run on 3rd person view while exploring and move to top-down RTS view while in combat. And yeah, too bad its not isometric but its still ok in my book.
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how sure are u that i havnt play FO 1 & 2 ? wants some screenshots ? i can give u now . lol .

Rumoured to be in 3rd person , hmm....mostlikely , it'll be 3rd and first . Combat will be FPS , i give a 90% that beth will do that .
if im wrong , i owe u a teh o ice limau . lol .

*btw dude , read carefully , u didnt catch what im saying .
and basically , almost alot of those post in here bashes and demand for the old isometric gameplay , i'd like that too and naturally ( U KNOW IT !! ) beth's habbit is to make RPGs in FPS and not many of u guys thought of giving beth a chance to make the game look good . 3rd or FPS , i dont mind and as long they deliver the goods , im fine with it . ( still , preferably 3rd person ) . get it ? and obviously ur not fan enough for Fallout games . lol

QUOTE(rebelsoul76 @ Jul 10 2007, 09:38 PM)
i'm currently playing S.T.A.L.K.E.R too. I find it quite entertaining. The Arena fight is very challenging, especially the round where u need to outhide, outgun the 2 army soldiers equipped with super armor and guns, while i only have an average gun.
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easy , wait and let those two soldiers kill eachother , then u finish off the remaining soldier .

*edited for the sake of grammar and spelling mistakes due to some guy poured gasolines on around the thread .

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post Jul 12 2007, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(dishwasher @ Jul 11 2007, 10:21 PM)
From: your very own neighbourhood Unwashed Villager.
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hey , u guys been hunting some oldman, what's his name ? lol .
" will there be a mac version ? "

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I cant say anything else to you people who are crying about Fallout. There is nothing that can be done that Bethesda is doing Fallout 3 and why are you crying about some damn Black Isle, I pity you. You should grow up and get it, theyre not dead. You should support the game makers and i dont think theyre going to rape the game. And its your fault why Black Isle got shut down. Some of you whiners only burned a Cd from a friend or made a full install. Me and my brother bought both of the games.
lol, some replies in the youtube video of the old interplay vanburen fallout 3 . i had to agree . cool2.gif
and ive been wondering how does the enemy react when the bullet hits them....whether they will be like shivering in pain or whatever , people who played some console games like MGS 2/3 or any yapunnese game , they'll know how the enemy reacts when any part of their body got hit .
ohhh !! the gore !!! more blood and body parts flying around !! and we need more kids in the game .
kinda starting to imagine the game with deus ex combine with SW : KOTOR gameplay .

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post Jul 12 2007, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(tgairborne @ Jul 12 2007, 07:30 AM)
I will keep both my Fallout 1 and 2 CD and let my future son / daughter play it over and over again. Let them feel the old classic game where they wont find it in the future anymore ! Booooo
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ori version ? tongue.gif
im using jack sparrow's version now .
anyone starting a bulk for this ? http://www.amazon.com/Global-Software-Publ...n/dp/B000IGE78M
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post Jul 12 2007, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(mukhlisz @ Jul 12 2007, 09:25 AM)
it's not that i don't want to buy the game, it's just that there aren't any in stores around here. Not even in the bargain bin. All they have is EA EA EA and some other sodding games. and i'm one of those ppl who just don't do their business online. it's all up close & personal baby.

On another topic i played FO2 up until Vault15 when suddenly i can't get out of there otherwise it'll crash the game. Dang!  mad.gif
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i know im abit out of this topic* anyway.....
mine crashes at the gotholgia or gothoga or something when i enter the underground hideout .
another one is a bug where the " npc's turn " timer keep turning non stop when starting the 3rd or 2nd round of ring match at new reno and others will be sulik lying on the ground when the combat starts or the car trunk dissapear in certain areas . blink.gif
A bugless and crashfree will be a bonus for the game !

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post Jul 14 2007, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(soggie @ Jul 13 2007, 06:30 PM)
I guess you didn't understand what my grieve is all about. Take a look at fallout 1, then take a look at fallout 3. One is an RPG, another is oblivion with guns. Ok, maybe it is more than just oblivion with guns, but definately when you bring an isometric shooter into the FPS arena you're gonna kill a lot of the old and familiar atmosphere. Fallout isn't about a post apoclayptic world lined with vehicle wrecks and ruins, littered with people with big guns. No, my friend, that is STALKER you're talking about.

What did I like about fallout? I didn't know exactly what it was, I just loved the theme. The game itself wasn't too great - I mean, planescape torment, in terms of gameplay and story was much better than fallout will ever be, but the sheer fun you can extract out of fallout makes it worthwhile. I mean, how many games let you walk into New Reno and discover you aint got enough cash for a weapon, then decide to kill the shopkeeper without alerting the whole town, then loot his body for some serious hardware? I got my first assault rifle that way, until I realized I could walk all the way to San Fran to get a power armor and gauss rifle instead.

but still, the theme. The whole thing about fallout being unforgettable is the theme that the entire game was built upon. It wasn't the technological marvels, the cool visuals, the newest 3D technology... it was the theme itself that mattered. I still remembered the feeling of invulnerability of seeing my SMG tear a bandit into shreds, his arms flailing lifelessly as the hail of bullets ripped him open. Granted, Beth could give us the violence in fallout 3, but it won't feel right - it is an FPS, and growing up playing Wolf3d, Doom, Quake, Duke Nukem and Half life I'm all but numb to the violence in an FPS.

I'm not crying about Beth killing fallout. The moment I heard they won the bid I knew it was over, didn't even wanted to give them a chance to proof themselves. 3 years later, I was proven right. They had indeed missed the crucial things that made fallout stick to my heart, and while I will still play fallout 3 I won't expect them to ever come close to what fallout did.

Heck, let me just say this - I enjoyed STALKER. I really did. Even wrote a short fanfic on it. And if Beth wants to give us something in between Oblivion and STALKER, I'd rather play the respective games than accept something that is only in between.

Let's see how VATS turn out to be.
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ohh man...im tired of explaining again . u think im fully supporting this FPS based fallout ?

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The moment I heard they won the bid I knew it was over, didn't even wanted to give them a chance to proof themselves. 3 years later, I was proven right. They had indeed missed the crucial things that made fallout stick to my heart, and while I will still play fallout 3 I won't expect them to ever come close to what fallout did.

This is what i thought of before and now im thinking something diffrent . everyone knows FPS ( oblivion with guns ) will screw the gameplay , and what i explained so far was " i will give beth a chance to make it good " and games are flexible in terms of gameplay and story telling . Gameplay could change time to time or a total change of a new gameplay type experience .
So basically , u hate FPS in RPG , so am i and i just hope it gets better than our expectation even the expectation was bad .

Fallout 1 & 2 & tactics = ULTIMATELY BEST RPG EVER ON THE PC
Fallout 3 ( beth ) = ULTIMATELY THE WORST RPG IN THE FALLOUT SERIES

even if FO3 is going to be badly made , im still gonna buy it and try it out and why i hope its something better than what i expect coz i dont want to waste my money on it .

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post Jul 16 2007, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(SetaNoriyasu @ Jul 16 2007, 12:57 AM)
Dear sweet mother of god......
http://fallout3.wordpress.com/2007/07/12/m...fallout-3-post/

I'm going to cry
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there is alot to cry for coz lots of good stuffs gone like the eye shot and other few important stuffs . lazy to list them down .
expect it'll start a new story instead of the old one .
............need to find my center in this forum....do not want to read more ! my eye ! arrr...i promised myself by not visiting this topic so much due to high radioactivity hatred i generate on this game .
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post Jul 17 2007, 03:53 PM

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hey PrivateJohn ! nice screens u got there !
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post Oct 31 2008, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(zioburosky13 @ Oct 31 2008, 08:15 AM)
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No body forced you to fork out 300 dollars for a piece of shit metallic case and piece of HYPED, unfulfilled and empty promise product.

In case you wonder why Bethesda is a lousy company now,

1) Overhyped product - Radiant AI in TES Oblivion, dumbed down gameplay (leveling system, dialog, 5 voice actors to voice EVERY NPC), storyline and ending (previos TES titles have mutltiple endings except Morrowind and Oblivion).

2) They turned a tabletop simulated CRPG cult classic game into a mindless first person action game where level 1 character can slaughter a bunch of people without any difficulty . It's like turning GTA into a tetris game for every age, with the aim of maximize their profit.. Many games have suffered the same treatment (Deus Ex 2, X-COM: Enforcer and X-COM: Interceptor, Unreal Tournament 3).
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I surely understand how bad beth is and infact im fully 100% anti-beth. I love fallout but i never gave any big fark for F3 and never even have any thoughts of rushing to play it (except Van Buren which is under interplay before this)

But, Unreal Tournament 3 ? Its not even an RPG, its a fragfest fps game all way long. I believe its a typo. amirite ?


Added on October 31, 2008, 11:09 am
QUOTE(Koross @ Oct 31 2008, 09:35 AM)
Weird all the review sites giving FO3 good reviews. Well, the ones I know anyway. I know how reviews can get biased but most of them?

Anyway, most forums have more negative views than positive ones. Why? Simply because the happy people are busy playing the game! When this game is out here (MY), I'm gonna get it no matter what.
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Yes, most forum had bad reviews coz there is so many previous fans for Fallout 3 ranting all to whatever page limit the forum has, beth.....beth never changes OR fans.....fans never changes.

I had all my rants out back some few pages back at the begining, but enough is enough, i move on coz i saw what's comming from the game.

I might not go craze over the game but at least i would try and finish the game for at least once to judge the game.

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post Oct 31 2008, 11:31 AM

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I have to say, hell its all about the consoles nowadays. Makes me wonder what else does the PC has in its sleeves, still missing some good games.
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post Nov 1 2008, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(Hitman66 @ Oct 31 2008, 06:11 PM)
they are good when they make morrowind last time.I still playing that darn game over and over again sweat.gif
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Ive been monitoring this thread but.....
Oit ! off topic, who's that chick in ur sig ? or have any moar pict of her ? lolz

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post Nov 16 2008, 03:52 PM

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well , ive finished the game and so far its quite ok and giving something near my expectations from this game.

Story is too damn short but at least there is some side quest which proves to be more interesting to the main quest.

btw , ive only seen 2 old characters in the game. Harold and dogmeat. Anyone else seen other old famous characters ?
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post Dec 15 2008, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(NeoMnemonic @ Dec 15 2008, 06:15 PM)
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YOU SIR , FRIGGIN ROCKS.

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