Oblivion is a step down from Morrowind is a step down from Daggerfall.

>_>

So assuming Fallout follows in these footsteps...



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When you think about replaying the game in its vanila form (no mod), you will be bugged by

-the level-scaling, where level 1 character can save a whole town from demon invasion

-telepathic AI who knows you are doing in a room even with the door close and he is out side,

-listening to the same 5 voice actors's voice on different NPC, dumbed-down skills and magic (no more constant magic effect on an armor. So forget about crafting a +10 strength belt of giant),

-the unkillable NPC which spoils the 'immursion!', 

-lack of alternate choice to solve a quest,

-lack of dialog choice. People still read those words, you know?

-Mannimarco, the King of Worms, once a God-like necromancer, nerfed & killed by Bethesda Softworks. I killed him with 2 hit with my ebony-sword.  He suppose to be invinsible! And cool looking, back in the Daggerfall days......

-random NPC activity. If you think these are impressive, you haven't play Gothic yet. NPC in Gothic series fart, pee, eat, sleep, work, going to tavern for a beer/ale. Once I tried to sleep on a farmer's bed and he told me to get out before start whacking me with his WHOLE family when I refused to get out of his room. And they have sex too. In Oblivion, no one gets laid at all...

Makes you wonder why on earth how can such a game receive high praise at all...

Does Gothic 3>Oblivion>Fallout 3?

waaaaaa i also wanna play  planescape torment...someone please donate ur planescape torment to meee...but arcanum/jagged alliance/ice wind dale/chicago/desperados/commandos also not bad la..really fun..i played em thrice as i could remember ...black isles n troika rock!!..haha..speaking/responsive  npc companion make the game more fun and not so boring..then either the story line of each character.make it more memorable..mmm really love this kind of game..i can play it 24/7 non stop...hehe...not like this failout 3 crap...waaa sedih2....today is my last paper..so i will benefit my holiday as usual......  its gaming time 

man u r my twin..twin level about 85% if i already played planescape.. ..so why not post me ur planescape...hehe 

I might as well say Ultima 6 was way better than Planescape Torment. BG2 is arguably better than Planescape as well, since the former has better gameplay breadth, and proper honest-to-goodness dungeon crawls. Planescape had a fantastic story and art design, but was way too linear. It was like INT/WIS or lose Since you are supposedly old school, there were a ton of other old school RPG stuff worth mentioning, like the eye of the beholder, wasteland, might and magic, lands of lore, bard's tale, ultimas, ultima underworld, quest for glory, the SSI series (ok yuck). I finished a lot of them.

The question is: how old school are you really? How groundbreaking were Fallout and Planescape compared to their predecessors?

Technically, TES Oblivion is more like an action adventure game, now.
You've missed the golden age of RPG.
Planescape Torment, Ultima IV, Fallout and Fallout2, Arcanum.
If you like action RPG with multiple ending, you definitely should try Vampire Masquere The Bloodline. And Gothic.

Edit: Massive FO3 mod attack from this site.
Mostly texture and GUI replacement. And music. And killable Children. Yes you can kill those annoying kids now.
Console player, eat your heart out. 

I've finally decided to put the game down

That is I've decided to put the game down after 50 hours of game play, most of it was spend wandering the waste land looking for civilization.

I know I could have used a guide online but it'll just spoiled the whole exploring experience. Such as the first time i found the oasis. Real surprise seeing something green.

I know it has some glitches and some argue that its not a proper rpg. But i find it a rather excellent game.

Those days RPG was basicly primed itself on 2 things : gameplay & story (maybe music too) & graphics was the most minor issue.
That's why the games doesn't need much innovation in graphics (which is the most difficult as it creates more bugs as well).
Black isel studio fall in this category, after fallout it emulates bioware in making D & D games (icewind dale series) The rest is history.

However 2 companies decided to make the bold leap forward by making radical changes :
1) Diablo by blizzard
They change all the gameplay for casual players to hop in, as a result they develop a very large fan base & spawn many mimics (titan quest, dungeon siege, sacred..... none came close except graphically)

2) Bioware for KOTOR & NW
They always innovate but the major change is always graphically, they turn from isometric to 3rd personj view then to first person view whil making improvements to graphics. Witcher was also spawned by this (by using aurora engine toolset : i like the sword chain combo & 2 ambiguous decsion at the end of each chapter)

3) Bethesda
Cant say they revolutionise the genre but looking at competitors they fared better by having better graphics & less buggy than usual.
Gothic, two worlds, dark messiah fallls on this buggy issue.

my fallout 3 crashes once awhile too..but super rarely..
just started playing for 3 hours++ so far..
not bad at all..but when it comes to leveling up,there are so many different skills n perks n stuff i really dunno wat to learn..end game sure rojak character..but maybe cause i nvr play fo2 fo1 b4 so i dun know how to play properly

just remember to use different slots for your save games..

and sometimes it's a bad idea bringing Dogmeat along. i just found out he can open doors.. and everyone in Rivet City turned hostile. bad doggie bad!

Actually this being the source of ARPG
Blizzard's Diablo just populated the idea.

I lolz hard on this one.

lolz
y so srs

I remember my brother helped me install the mockingboard for the Apple II just to get ad-lib quality music for U4, it was pretty magical

There was never really a resurgence, American CRPGs were doing good all the way until dying in the 2000s. In fact, Planescape, Fallout2 and BG2 were the last few highlights at the final stages of its slow death. I don't know what happened, suddenly action hybrids and JRPGs became vogue. It was the same as Grim Fandango heralding the end of point-and-click adventure games. Planescape was extremely well-written and scripted. But it was a derivative of the BG engine, plus they removed a lot of the open-endedness for a linear experience. Fallout 2 is still one of my favorite games, but it wasn't groundbreaking if you considered the roots of x-com and jagged alliance (even though they aren't RPGs).

I also don't understand the hate for FPS/RPGs, it's not like they are a new dumb addition to RPGs. They were kicking butts way before Fallout or the Bioware stuff were even in development. If you are old school enough, you would know how innovative system shock, TES or ultima underworld were. They paved the way for the excellent Deux Ex and much later Bioshock. They had good story, RPG elements, and a lot of open-ended approach to solving your problems. An "FPS-ed" Fallout 3 is definitely not a slap in the face, know the RPG roots but keep an open mind!

An unnerfed Sniper and a proper crit table would be nice too. Ah, the days when a 0 damage instakill crit existed....

Even more awesome if you do it with your bare hands.YOU WA SHOOOOOOOOCK!

No idea. All I know is that the side quests get pretty dull after a while. This game is all about EXPLORING!!!

On an unrelated subject, I think the voice actor for President Eden is pretty good. Better than the rest of the noob voice actors Bethesda hired.

i kill anyone who say's "what are you looking at"

drink nuka cola, and you'll never be the same.