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sai86
post Nov 7 2017, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(Chobits @ Nov 7 2017, 05:23 PM)
RO could have been a very good MMORPG, just gayflier didn't dare to take risks, let ppl bot.
at last killing the game.

a good example is WoW, they BAN the bots, not afraid that people might quit, but instead the demand became more, because the game was fair. and chii bet ya WoW is certainly more grindy and complicated if compared to RO.

If u can't play a grinding game, this game isn't for u.

experience wise, RO had a good balance between grinding, mvp hunting and socialising and war/pvp too.

too bad, so jealous people can't put in effort to play, then started to BOT and destroyed the game
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well said. RO is not that grinding for me. it is very fun and fast lvling in a group.
grind for MVP / cards is the real grinding game biggrin.gif
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post Nov 8 2017, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(Chobits @ Nov 7 2017, 05:23 PM)
RO could have been a very good MMORPG, just gayflier didn't dare to take risks, let ppl bot.
at last killing the game.

a good example is WoW, they BAN the bots, not afraid that people might quit, but instead the demand became more, because the game was fair. and chii bet ya WoW is certainly more grindy and complicated if compared to RO.

If u can't play a grinding game, this game isn't for u.

experience wise, RO had a good balance between grinding, mvp hunting and socialising and war/pvp too.

too bad, so jealous people can't put in effort to play, then started to BOT and destroyed the game
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If u look at those good mmorpg as Wow n Gw
The aim is not lvling... Thus easy to max lvl at those game
So thus kill the main reason for botting
RO is a good game but the lvling killed it

hayrol
post Nov 8 2017, 09:06 AM

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The leveling quite killing the game actually.

Other than that,its quite fun. I wish the use fast leveling by doing quest to encourage player to keep playing.
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post Nov 8 2017, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(lahart @ Nov 8 2017, 08:57 AM)
If u look at those good mmorpg as Wow n Gw
The aim is not lvling... Thus easy to max lvl at those game
So thus kill the main reason for botting
RO is a good game but the lvling killed it
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QUOTE(hayrol @ Nov 8 2017, 09:06 AM)
The leveling quite killing the game actually.

Other than that,its quite fun. I wish the use fast leveling by doing quest to encourage player to keep playing.
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vanilla WoW had more grinding than RO, seriously walking 1 hour to dungeons ?
grinding to lv 60 took 6 months discounting pvp servers. not yet even count the grind to max gear.

the game was so grinding, yet it was successful.
it was not the gameplay nor leveling that caused RO's downfall.

BOTS

this killed it
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post Nov 8 2017, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(Chobits @ Nov 8 2017, 05:00 PM)
vanilla WoW had more grinding than RO, seriously walking 1 hour to dungeons ?
grinding to lv 60 took 6 months discounting pvp servers. not yet even count the grind to max gear.

the game was so grinding, yet it was successful.
it was not the gameplay nor leveling that caused RO's downfall.

BOTS

this killed it
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WoW doesn't nid 6 month to get lvl 60

Ok let say it is 6 month
How long for RO to get rebirth twice?
I think 10 yr also not achievable without bot

Wow after 6 mth u can focus on other stuff
In RO ur foreva lvling if no bot

BOT Killed RO but u must remove the reason for ppl to BOT

This post has been edited by lahart: Nov 8 2017, 05:13 PM
Chobits
post Nov 8 2017, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(lahart @ Nov 8 2017, 05:11 PM)
WoW doesn't nid 6 month to get lvl 60

Ok let say it is 6 month
How long for RO to get rebirth twice?
I think 10 yr also not achievable without bot

Wow after 6 mth u can focus on other stuff
In RO ur foreva lvling if no bot

BOT Killed RO but u must remove the reason for ppl to BOT
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my point is BOTs killed RO, thanks for supporting tongue.gif

if the grinding is too much, then maybe RO isn't for you.

rebirth twice chii estimate, max 1.5 years for normal players. hardcore, maybe 6-8 months top.
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post Nov 8 2017, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(Chobits @ Nov 8 2017, 07:25 PM)
my point is BOTs killed RO, thanks for supporting  tongue.gif

if the grinding is too much, then maybe RO isn't for you.

rebirth twice chii estimate, max 1.5 years for normal players. hardcore, maybe 6-8 months top.
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iirc at 90+ u nid to bot 24/7 for a week to get 5%
and that is before rebirth
do the math

This post has been edited by lahart: Nov 8 2017, 09:05 PM
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post Nov 9 2017, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(lahart @ Nov 8 2017, 09:05 PM)
iirc at 90+ u nid to bot 24/7 for a week to get 5%
and that is before rebirth
do the math
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That's why when 60-70% of us quit RO after 4-5 years with +10 max MVP slot gear - iRo still gvg with second class, not even lvl99 and using +4 gears.

There's pros and cons, without bots maybe the game wont last so long, especially all working adults will quit short term.
On the other hand maybe there will be a small close knit community, which is not good for gameflier to earn money.
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post Nov 9 2017, 01:27 AM

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If they could put in some sort of idle progression thing while players are away that would probably prevent players from botting.

But since things can reverse engineer, bots are bound to arrive.
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post Nov 9 2017, 09:21 AM

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RO is a level grinding game. If it is not level grinding, then explain why rebirth to novice and grind all the way to an transcended class. Even thought you may argue you don't need to transcend, can just remain as a normal class. Let be honest, looking at all those transcended classes walking around, it doesn't stroke your ego.

It is what it is.
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post Nov 9 2017, 09:26 AM

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Im sure this game u have to pay monthly, they are not cheap
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post Nov 9 2017, 10:15 AM

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Grinding for item, I don't mind to do it.

Grinding for leveling is a true pain. The rebirth system really takes a very long time to grind.
Just hope they can fix the leveling to encourage player to play & decrease the BOT, at lease......
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post Nov 9 2017, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(hayrol @ Nov 9 2017, 10:15 AM)
Grinding for item, I don't mind to do it.

Grinding for leveling is a true pain.
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+1
Grind for lvl is jus stupid imho
I rather pay for GW 2 then RO monthly fee


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post Nov 9 2017, 11:27 AM

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IRO or malaysia gameflier?
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post Nov 9 2017, 01:16 PM

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hahaha siap beli kamus RO lagi
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post Nov 9 2017, 10:58 PM

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RM38 MC, RM15, RM4 daily anyone?
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I have time in December so I will play it again. Can’t wait to relive the joys of playing RO again.

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post Nov 10 2017, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(asus_2g @ Nov 9 2017, 09:26 AM)
Im sure this game u have to pay monthly, they are not cheap
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nowdays many the gametrend free for play..
but if u want become strongger/rare item
need to but qold,gem,diamond etc2

if they make pay monthly to play..
i think no people will play... bye.gif bye.gif
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post Nov 10 2017, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(lahart @ Nov 8 2017, 09:05 PM)
iirc at 90+ u nid to bot 24/7 for a week to get 5%
and that is before rebirth
do the math
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nope, i remember clearly at lv 96, i played 2 hours got 3% at geffen guild dungeon, partied with a lv 97 wiz + lv 93 assasin, we lure 5-8 monsters then proceeded to clear them.
if dark lord spawn, +1% xp for free, and yes the dark lord spawn dark illusions and teleports like a bitch.

glast heim prison was abit slower, with 0.8% per hour, but 0 risk of dying since luring 20 mobs is not a problem.

so using these calculations, it is not hard to actually be max level.

QUOTE(Fugazi @ Nov 9 2017, 01:21 AM)
That's why when 60-70% of us quit RO after 4-5 years with +10 max MVP slot gear - iRo still gvg with second class, not even lvl99 and using +4 gears.

There's pros and cons, without bots maybe the game wont last so long, especially all working adults will quit short term.
On the other hand maybe there will be a small close knit community, which is not good for gameflier to earn money.
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if already reach max level and have all +10 items, i guess quitting is correct.
if botted and brag about getting max level and all +10 items and still feel proud, its that person's choice.
even with rebirth in leveling, it isn't hard to max out, as long as there is fair leveling and no bots

gathering items to enchant and make better equipment is part of the adventure, if that is a hassle, maybe the game does not suit u.

QUOTE(lahart @ Nov 9 2017, 11:25 AM)
+1
Grind for lvl is jus stupid imho
I rather pay for GW 2 then RO monthly fee
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if grinding is stupid, then maybe the game RO do not suit u.
and please do not bot in the new server, just a reminder if u do plan to bot.
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post Nov 10 2017, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(deale30 @ Nov 10 2017, 10:44 AM)
nowdays many the gametrend free for play..
but if u want become strongger/rare item
need to but qold,gem,diamond etc2

if they make pay monthly to play..
i think no people will play... bye.gif  bye.gif
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explain how does WoW work then ?
did not know WoW was free to play though

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