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 Iron Grille at High Floor of Condo Necessary?

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SUSadvocado
post Oct 29 2017, 05:35 PM

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depends your design. nowadays many windows all around balcony/rooms/kitchen, so even with grill doors on the front there are many other entries.

when you say grill do you mean extra steel door infront of the original door, or the one further out of your main door (if you like to leave shoes outside it maybe good idea), but the design is limited to condo management?.

for balcony, most condos uses big glass while they are locked it won't stop people. i have not seen people install grills behind their balcony access.

for rooms, some condos have big windows just to look good, you can put grills behind but that would really change the look. depends if there are any ledges for people to climb around.

for kitchen, same, depends whether there are ledges. but even without ledges they can just SWAT team rope down from above.

if small windows, easy to install grills, but nowadays all windows are big big pieces, how you install?
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post Oct 29 2017, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ Oct 29 2017, 03:38 PM)
Condo break in only involve small valuables like smartphone, ipad, laptop, jewellery, money

Entry may not be through the main door so no point of breaking since they only wanna take small items.

Focus on louvre opening in the kitchen, windows, laundry area & toilet
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how do you do that? since usually highrise nowadays lots of glass panels.

if put grill, will change the looks.

or got simpler way to do?
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post Oct 31 2017, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Oct 31 2017, 08:01 AM)
These are few samples showing the iron grille being breached. It is obvious that by looking at the damage, the activity was not done by a locksmith but someone with a cutter. Even with a cutter, just have a look how easy it is to gain entry to the apartment even though the main door already has an iron grille and padlock.

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you'd imagine the amount of noise would chaos a ruckus? but no, guess it was done daytime and folks though it was renovation works going on.

it's better to have the lock behind the grills, so it's harder to reach. for you, either way it's gonna be harder to reach from 1 side unless you don't padlock when you are inside.

nowadays many condo management insist on the grilles you showed, which is really not that strong it's actually designed in the 80's.
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post Oct 31 2017, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Oct 31 2017, 08:48 AM)
Grills are as good as its weak point. Protect the weak points esp the pad lock area and also the hinges. Padlock protection can use Nakamura N1/N5 or Keynox padlock protectors or other brand of equivalent function. If space allows, let grill open inwards towards the entrance.

Kitchen balcony access if easier to climb in, grill it up. Although some adept climbing it's needed, it's better to protect. The least is to cover that spot with CCTV or as a barrier to entry, the balcony door should use double key door knobs meaning locking is with key from both sides. Plus a few strategically placed dead bolts that can only be operated from the inside. Any rooms with windows into the balcony should be grilled up if the outer balcony is not. Not required if outer balcony have been grilled up.
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got any good samples on how to grill up balcony access, kitchen windows, bedroom windows those tall corner ones. like subtle way of doing it so it won't ruin the looks?
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post Oct 31 2017, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Oct 31 2017, 09:11 AM)
Not on hand. One thing you can do is wander from house to house or condo unit to unit and if the workmanship and design strands out to you, ring the door bell and get to know the neighbour and tell them what you intend to do with yours and that you like their design and ask for the contact. Kills a lot of birds this way.
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don't think people are so enthusiastic about sharing their security systems...

because i have yet seen people installing grills on their oversized windows.

 

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