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aaron80
post Feb 4 2018, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(melrockstar9 @ Feb 4 2018, 12:02 PM)
I did... I don't think it's any app problems though. Social media apps I only have Instagram, Twitter and WhatsApp. Then some Google apps... Waze, Spotify and Reddit
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i means, you need to check the battery consumption % of all the items
then only decide which one is the problem

also to note that if you frequently turn on screen for a short while to check status, etc, it consume a lot of battery
but if you are always on screen perform activities for long time per time, it will have very good on screen time

so for me, i like AOD a lot, because it can avoid unnecessry frequently turn on screen to check status, time, etc
i am only on screen if i see notification on AOD
so it saved the battery a lot, and also just need a quick glance then i can decide to take out the phone or not, else just leave it there
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post Feb 4 2018, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(melrockstar9 @ Feb 4 2018, 12:11 PM)
No crashing problems at all. The phone runs smoothly just bad standby. If you could check the screenshots I attached. Thanks
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if you are really not using much on the samsung dex, reddit and whatsapp
so its battery consumption should be lower than the kernel
so it maybe these 3 apps are the problem
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post Feb 4 2018, 12:57 PM

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can anyone help to share again that the correct steps to use spay for mst?
i think all the while i maybe perform it the wrong way that's why it turn out failed at all the places
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post Feb 4 2018, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(mafioso @ Feb 4 2018, 04:09 PM)
but sometimes even no pay wave.. SPAY can also use the MST terminal.. yet they dont allow because they see it as "pay wave" or "mobile payment" so they die die dont let you try sweat.gif

or maybe im just unlucky sweat.gif
lol sometimes cannot blame those standing in front also.

sometimes its the boss like so scared customer scam so they prefer physical card..

what to do sweat.gif laugh.gif

since its my usual service center, i just dont bother haha
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many shops let me try but i failed to use spay

what are the correct steps to use spay for mst machine?
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post Feb 4 2018, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(mafioso @ Feb 4 2018, 04:16 PM)
tap it near the sliding terminal (around that MST sliding panel area where they will slide our card there)

to be honest, if samsung pay is a legit way to pay

the banks or media should let the public know that it is an acceptable alternative way to pay

here still not many know what is mobile wallet payment if you ask me sweat.gif

all still see a physical card = the only correct way to pay sweat.gif
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i means full steps

such as enter amount and hit pay, then scan spay? i am doing this all the while
or scan spay first, then only enter amount and hit pay?
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post Feb 4 2018, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(Theoutspokenguy @ Feb 4 2018, 04:42 PM)
I already sketch it for everyone to see but still people keep asking

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dude, i know where to tap
i means step 1, 2, 3, etc
because i got errors everytime

the only time that i successfully paid with mst, was the shop did it for me
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post Feb 4 2018, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(Theoutspokenguy @ Feb 4 2018, 04:45 PM)
Mafioso also use spay few times how would he know.

Teller need input amount and you see a message scan/swipe now the only you tap.

If u manually press is sales } key in amount } ok } scan
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scan is for pay wave
i means mst
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post Feb 4 2018, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(Theoutspokenguy @ Feb 4 2018, 04:47 PM)
You need to give the error message. Without it we will not know why it fail.

Some terminal are not supported and some terminal don't allow mst.
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can't you please help to explain the steps since you are success so many times to pay with mst?
it would as easy as just the sequence of steps are wrong
i had wrote down 2 sequence of steps in earlier post, but until now, nobody response to it
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since no one share the clear steps for mst, below are my finding which i have no idea that is it the same at here

i watched a few youtube videos, and i assume that the steps for nfc and mst are different
for nfc, enter the amount, scan/tap and paid
for mst, scan, enter the amount and paid (which means that all the while, i was maybe tried with the wrong steps)

below videos are for mst, and i will try the below steps next time





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post Feb 4 2018, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(Theoutspokenguy @ Feb 4 2018, 06:24 PM)
Most mst machine I tried is amount first only tap. Never seen tap first then key in amount
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i failed for mst so many times until whenever the shop not support pay wave, i don't want to ask for a try anymore
i was tried with amount first and then tap too
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post Feb 4 2018, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Feb 4 2018, 09:09 PM)
do take note of this credit limits on spay:

Maybank : RM 250 per day
Citibank : RM 1500 (RM 750 for NFC & RM 750 for MST)
Hong Leong Bank : RM 250
Standard Chartered : RM 1250 or 5 transaction per day whichever comes first
CIMB : RM 1000 per day
RHB : RM 1000 or 30 transactions (cumulative for both MST & NFC) whichever comes first.
(Limit would reset for  RHB card once payment is made using the physical card with PIN verification.)
it's not even a factor, maybe like 1% say.. a day?
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i used hlb card paid more than 250 also no problem
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QUOTE(Max2006 @ Feb 4 2018, 09:12 PM)
It's 1% per hour, according to Samsung official statement.
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really? how come i remember that it is stated below 5% per day?
btw, for my phone during standby with either wifi or data on, aod on, every 2-3 hours drop 1%
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QUOTE(Max2006 @ Feb 4 2018, 10:44 PM)
May be Samsung is being conservative. May be the battery consuming becomes better after several updates. May be I remember it wrongly.  Haha. Anyway, it's definitely consume more than 1%. I was trying to answer to the person who said aod consume 1% per day.
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based on my own experience, it is maybe between 5% - 10% per day

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post Feb 5 2018, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(Theoutspokenguy @ Feb 5 2018, 08:04 AM)
I already did the hardworking for you why randomly experiment? Here my list stick to it and you will have alot fun with spay. Once awhile I will randomly try new shops to update my list.

So refer to my list you will know how often it fail so failure usually due to terminal.

All this is based on my actual usage and experience

Here also success rate of merchant bank terminal
Public bank  - failure rate 90%
Hong Leong bank - failure rate 80%
Maybank - failure rate 20%
CIMB - failure rate 0%
Ambank - failure rate 10%
Aeon big - failure rate 0%
IKEA - failure rate 0%
Giant - failure rate 0%
Guardian failure rate 0% but only staff attitude problem
bHP failure rate 0%
Shell failure rate 80%
Caltex 50%
Starbucks 0%
Cafebene failure rate 50%
Petronas failure rate 0%
Macdonald 5%
Coffee bean failure rate 0%
Speedmart 99 - failure rate 50% with minimum
Familymart - failure rate 0% no minimum
My news - failure rate 100%
Mr. Diy - failure rate 100%
Sin tuck woh hardware - failure rate 100%
Hardware store near My house - failure rate 100%
Machinery shop near Mt house - failure rate 100%
Hardware shop near my work - failure 15%
Pet shop at giant kelana jaya - failure rate 0%
All IT hypermarket the curve - failure rate 100%
KFC - failure rate 70%
*Vendor that failure rate 100% can use physical card but not spay
Updated 5.2.18
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i don't go to all the above stores except kfc, and i am normally pay kfc with cash (credit card never come into my mind because kfc always tell me that their card terminal is offline in the past)

so far, most of my usage for spay are at tesco
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post Feb 5 2018, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Xaser_3 @ Feb 5 2018, 09:49 AM)
The great thing about SPay is there isn't any minimum purchase amount. About time they did something as I remember the days where retailers wanting to charge 2-3% for payment with credit cards and the minimum amount spend set at RM 50.
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my friends who are working in the bank told me that retailers are not allow to charge extra fees and also set min spend for the credit card usage

but since no one enforce and take action on it, plus it is not known to public, so nobody group up to file an official complain to this matter

i am just heard it from friends, not sure the details about it
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QUOTE(mafioso @ Feb 5 2018, 01:46 PM)
what to say if they say "paywave not supported"

but since they got MST terminal.. can still use SPAY lol
many times they want you to pass them your card first only they key in the amount sweat.gif
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for mst, they want to insert your card first, and then only key in amount and hit pay
i tried many times to request for testing, so they key amount and hit pay first, then only i try to scan, failed all the time
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QUOTE(mafioso @ Feb 5 2018, 01:56 PM)
what about slot in one? with the chip

that one also we can use spay right?
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i am talking about the slot in one
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QUOTE(fuzzy007 @ Feb 6 2018, 05:59 PM)
Curve screen do troublesome to find good tp or sp but when i saw iphone x,i feel like note 8 screen design more fulturistic,at last not bored compare to iphone flat screen

Did aso notice the edge panel shortcut quite useful,i use it to lock phone and screen capture alot
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curve screen not only meant to be look nice
but it is design to have as large display ratio as possible, at the same make the big phone still nice to hold with the curve at the front and back
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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Feb 6 2018, 08:37 PM)
Guys any of u using screen lock apps?

I wanna use with my Face ID but after press screen off and trigger it, it need to fill passcode, if using powerbutton to turn off  then face ID work, i hope can minimize my home button so only use the scren lock apps, but seen it doesnt work for Face id, anyone facing same problem as my?
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face id? iphone x?
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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Feb 6 2018, 09:59 PM)
u mean put the screen lock on edge panel? stil same can't , seen like need reply on the power button , i really scare everyday press until rosak  sweat.gif
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use the default screen lock that is come with the phone
either activate the assist menu for screen lock in the setting
or download the edge menu with screen lock

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