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TSAlidavidsun
post Oct 26 2017, 10:53 PM, updated 9y ago

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I rented a shoplot for retail business and after about 6 months every month is just losing money. The total sales is unable to cover the rental and employee salary.

So we decided to close the business. However after informing the landlord that we want to stop the rental, the landlord showed us that there was a clause saying we have to pay for the rest of the tenure if we choose to terminate the agreement early. I admit it's my bad for not reading the agreement carefully before signing it. Now they insist we have to pay the rest of the 2 year tenure or get a new tenant.

Anyone experienced this before? What's the solution?
TSAlidavidsun
post Oct 26 2017, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(RChance @ Oct 26 2017, 10:58 PM)
If there is a black and white clause written you are to pay for the full tenancy, there is no easy solution.

It is an expensive mistake not to read through the draft of the TA when presented to you. The law will always uphold this clause and he can easily sue you.

Best solution, speak nicely to the owner for a settlement. If the owner is a hardnut, bad luck. Or just as he said, find a tenant to replace your business.

Good luck
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Haih. Thanks for the info. I took for granted and thought normally rental agreements are almost the same. If we quit they'll just take the deposit.
TSAlidavidsun
post Oct 26 2017, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(jetwash @ Oct 26 2017, 11:09 PM)
Surely you didn't expect to break even after just six months?

Well established business or what?
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Not break even but just didn't expect to lose that much cos there were many days that sales was zero or single digit.

It's kinda like a start-up
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post Oct 27 2017, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(nookie188 @ Oct 27 2017, 09:53 AM)
I am not advocating this but quite a few of my tenants just terminated even with the same clause in the TAs -
I personally cant be bothered to go after them as its costly and time consuming - just forfeit deposits and look for tenant myself..
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QUOTE(jetwash @ Oct 27 2017, 10:29 AM)
Yup it'll be costly for the landlord to enforce the agreement too.
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Ya we didn't expect for the sales to be so bad. There were quite many days having 0 sales. And the condition of the shop is also quite poor. The roof leaks during rain and when I inform the management they just come and use silicone to seal the holes in the roof. They walls even grew mould cos there's a big gap at the wall allowing water to sip in. I told the management a few times but nothing is done

The property is owned by a foreign company and they assigned a local management company to manage it. I'm worried if any legal action will be taken against me
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post Oct 30 2017, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Oct 27 2017, 05:39 PM)
what biz are u running? retail need aggressive marketing to pull traffic from all places, if you make money for first 6 mths, there is no reasons why you should just give up like that.

You are dealing with foreign landlord, if company likely to execute the black and white, so you are better off the focus to turn around your biz instead of giving up.
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Selling Japanese goods. Nope we didn't make money at all for first 6 months, every month need to top up to cover overhead. We thought about trying to hold on but it's quite a big gamble to take since the past 6 months have all been losses.


QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Oct 30 2017, 04:11 PM)
Peruse through the agreement again, does it contained any clause which requires a prior notice for termination? Some standard agreement does comes with it. Upon the service of prior notice, all the deposits are refunded.

Some landlords are "threatening" in nature, they threatened but in order to enforce it, they will need to go through the legal process which is quite tedious. Try to talk nicely with the landlord and gain his empathy. You'll be surprised how sympathetic people can be when they truly understand you nature.

Most importantly, forget your ego and don't be prideful during the negotiation.

By the way, are you renting it under a "Sdn Bhd" or individual?
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This is part of the termination or break option as per the agreement.

Break Option which states that you are liable to pay a
sum equivalent to the rental for the remaining term of the lease subject to a maximum of 18 months rental plus 3 months rental in lieu of notice.

Notice to give is 3 months but that is followed by the clause above. Ya I've tried to explain nicely to the landlord, apologising and saying we're unable to continue as business is very bad. Hope they have mercy on me.

The business is under partnership but the tenancy is under my single name. That's the part I'm worried.
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post Oct 30 2017, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Oct 30 2017, 05:45 PM)
That's a very poorly drafted agreement isn't it? The purpose of prior notice to terminate is so that the landlord can find time to search for a new tenant and without the need to penalize the current tenant.

What is the point of serving prior notice and upon expiry of the notice, still have the tenant's deposit forfeited and then need to pay rental for all the unexpired term?

Which idiot drafted the agreement?
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Exactly. I asked around some people who have law background and they said the agreement looked ridiculous. I'm not sure the company who owns the property did it or the secretarial firm they appointed drafted it.

I informed them I admit not reading the agreement carefully before signing it because when I asked about termination, they just told me it's a standard agreement, you'll lose your deposit. Now waiting for their reply.
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post Nov 1 2017, 01:20 AM

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Wow didn't realise this topic escalated so quickly. Chill guys. It's my first time renting a commercial unit and I admit doing a few mistakes.
1. The business startup was quite messy as our partnership company was registered after we agreed to rent the shoplot. I agreed to use my name first since there's no company name. If we rented the shop using company name I'll be less worried

2. I didn't read the TA carefully. I went to their office to sign the 20+ page TA. I casually ask what if I want to stop renting before 2 years, and the staff just tell me you'll lose your deposit lo. So I didn't read much and apparently the person that I dealt with didn't read the TA as well.

I'm now trying to appeal to the landlord still hoping for the best. I do agree to most of the points you guys mentioned but let's not get heated la. Malaysia very hot d. Haha

 

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