I want to buy a 250cc bike. My home is just about 15km away from my workplace. The traffic there is not busy at all bcoz I work near the airport. My intend to buy a 250cc bike is bcoz i want to use it as transportation to work on weekdays and maybe go for santai2 riding on weekend.
What is the best bike between Z250 and R25?
I realised that z250 is lack of speed if compare to r25 but i want some review and feedback about the handling, maintenance, the comfortable of riding on long journey etc.

choose duke250 or rc250 instead. u will appreciate the DUAL channel ABS & slipper clutch that it has. i've 3 bike accident, all cause due to sudden hard braking. my next bike, i will choose the one with ABS for sure. even if u ride carefully, u cant predict another motorist behavior. some bike or car can suddenly change into ur lane, some lorry will suddenly sway into ur lane. i've clock more than 300,000km riding bike on a daily basis. so yes, we should prioritize safety. just my 2cent though.

This post has been edited by xswatch: Oct 26 2017, 08:05 AM

Totally agree. Z300 will also be a good choice if you willing to take b full. With abs and other features as well more safety

How about the new z250. If im not mistaken the new z250 has ABS also.

The new z250 also got ABS. Whats the other features that z300 got?

What is the best feature on those two bike have compare to z250 and r25?

as I stated above. it has DUAL channels ABS and slipper clutch. no other 250cc bike has these features in Malaysia yet. yes, NO OTHER!.. if u prefer japanese brand (known for their reliability), go for kawasaki z300. but it requires full B license. and no. z250 don't have ABS at all & no slipper clutch. then again, comes the price. Duke 250 is rm16k (the cheapest), rc250 is rm17k. while z300 is rm25k. so there u go. it makes more sense to get the Duke 250 rather than the z300 if safety is ur concern. plus no need to upgrade to full B.

only advantage the KTM has over the Z250 or R25 would be the ABS...otherwise, they are quite known for electrical problems and also the RC has a rather racing seating position...which can get uncomfortable for long distance santai ride. the single piston engine for both KTMs also creates quite alot of vibrations which again can be uncomfortable for long rides. but of course, commfort, is down to the rider's capability of handling it.

my comments above are based on feedback of Duke 250 (weird, unsolvable intermittent check light issue) and RC250 (replaced entire burnt wiring harness before) riders in my group.

as mentioned, Z300 already comes with ABS. so thats an option. twin cylinder will have lesser vibrations. plus seating position is quite decent for long rides.

as for Z250 having lower top speed than R25, thats mainly due to the rev/speed cut. remove them (not recommended) and u can go further.. there are Z250s out there that touches 190km/h.

if ur more into sportbikes, r25 and ninja 250 has a less racing seating position which makes it ideal for daily commute and long rides due to less chances of back and wrist ache. Z250 has a slightly more upright seating position compared to these 2.

i myself am a Z250 rider... which i bought used at 44k km mileage 1.5 years ago. love the bike...really great performer and very reliable. this is my daily bike (66km-2way) and also my santai joy ride bike...my bike is now at 71k km mileage. love riding it so much that i racked up almost 30k in less than 2 years

in fact, i just came back from a 605km ride... havent even bathed yet hahahah.

shah alam - ipoh - simpang pulai - cameron - sungai koyan - bentong - karak - wangsa maju - shah alam.

EDIT: oh yeah, forgot to mention that if ur thinking of buying a 250cc bike, id recommend buying used. the itch to upgrade will come very quickly and the itch is very strong.... so if u do, at least u wont lose out much.

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Oct 26 2017, 11:30 PM

Or TS never want to upgrade like me ma

U havr the itch for gixxer..before that was s1k

u dont intend to sell ur r25 and want to add a bigger bike...its still an upgrade.

Jgn persoal

Just got my L license for a B2 and was going to get an R25 but I never knew how important ABS was I'm looking for long rides on the weekend too

I dont really like the Duke's design tho conflicted now

Very wise word 🤔 can the non ABS z250 be install the ABS system?
Why is it not recommended to remove the cut off??
And how is ur long journey? Comfortable ride?

1/ dont think so... unless u can find a compatible system... will cost a bomb n may not be worth to spend that kinda money on a 250
2/ redline of the engine is there for a reason... pass the redline too often and risk blowing ur engine
3/ good. my rides are usually 500km above. comfy for me. for u dunno.. hahahahah

or go for Modenas Pulsar RS200..got ABS but only single channel iinm

heard that Yamaha R15 (155cc maybe a bit low for you) but should have VVA and Assist & Sleeper Clutch

Don't know when HLY will launch. Nmpk spyshots saje.
BTW, bkn sleeper clutch tp slipper clutch.

I had a crack on my shoulder blade bone as proof that ABS is essential... (now due to that, my right shoulder lower than my left and weaker)..

they will launch soon

wonder when Boon Siew will launch the CBR250RR

ha sorry typo

get well soon bruh

Thanks bro.. that was way back in 1996, didnt hit the car, but front brake lock and slide while sandwiched between bike and the road for few meters.... a real grinder...

iinm you are the legend from mbc?

glad that you are still here today 1996 what bike did you ride? dont think abs existed back then right?

MBC where got started so early, it was at the early 2000' the forum formed. so sad now they defunc....

Suzuki RG Sports 110cc, yeah no ABS however because of that, I learned life in hard way..

haha i was a casual visitor in mbc too..mostly in wave 125 group

the harder, the better you become

Waiting for cbr250rr too.

Any news about it still?

who wanna pay an estimated 30k for this when ninja/r25 in the 20's while rc390 also around that price, if not lower.

indon august 2016 ady got, here still no sound no gas.

I cant brain the price as cbr250r is around 20k ald but who knows what gonna happen

It's supposed to be a track/race ready machine

Not sure what's the final specs if it does come to Malaysia, however slapping on Ohlins or equivalent front cartridge forks and spring + rear mono upgrades you're already looking at a minimum of 7 to 8k

If you look at it that way, it does make sense.

Kinda how the BMW HP4 Race cost 500k or the MotoGP replica Honda RC213V-S is demanding a million - exotic materials/parts.

Betweet ninja 250 and r25 which one u rekemen bro?
I was thinking to get one 250 bike. Dont reli like the z250.
Currently in y15zr kinda tak syok for long ride.

between the 2..which one u like? buy that

but in my opinion, the ninja 250. this bike has been around so long and has proven itself over n over n over to be reliable and a decent performer. even if theres issues with it, its been around so long that theres most likely solutions for it. which is one of the main reasons why i chose the Z250 (same engine, reliable bla bla bla, but i dont like sport bikes, prefer nakeds)

however, certain parts can get more expensive.... for example... the coils, RM8xx new... while the r25 coil is about RM4xx. though u can recoil for about RM400 (which is said to be even better and lasts longer).

The R25 is the "trend" now for 250cc bikes... so if thats what u like then by all means.. buy it.. though it has had a couple of recalls if i remember correctly.

I prefer sport bikes. Was waiting for cbr250rr but haih.
Hahah thanks for the explaination tho. I think ninja 250 is more reliable by right.

iinm, ninja 250 coil is 1.3-1.5k ori brand new from kawa
R25 coil is 300+ only

new/latest 2017 R25 no longer affected by previous recalls.
But no telling what future recalls may show up.

Wah serious ah? Why so damn exp one.

I prefer ninja 250 but if u say like that maybe going for overrated r25

if u prefer ninja 250, go with that then.

like i said... bike has been around so long, that if there are any issues, there would have probably been a solution for it by now lol

and recoil is RM400 thereabouts. so no real biggie.

But just look at the coil it self its like double or triple the price of r25 already.

yeah the coil is expensive... if u get brand new from kawasaki.. even the chain n sprockets are expensive at kawasaki... but theres so many other much cheaper options out there that going to kawasaki isnt worth it.

if ur planning to buy the R25... buy new... ull probbaly need the warranty

if ur planning to buy used, id say go with the Ninja250.

though for a 250 id highly recommend used.

go with what you like and i do agree with the post above.

if you buying new, consider more towards r25.
used consider a ninja 250

Thx brah

Wanna ask something bro. There is a shop that sell new R25. They also give akra exhaust as free gift.
Is there any side effect or any disadvantage if new bike with 0 mileage install an aftermarket exhaust?

This post has been edited by blackboxxx: Nov 18 2017, 09:09 AM

Fake slip on
Only RM 150 to 250 cost

Only sounds, nothing else.

Does it have any bad effect for short or long term?

Should be no besides potential ear damage long term if you don't wear ear plugs

Hi can't say much about z250 as I own a z250sl. But I can give some feedback on R25 since I have rode it before( borrowed my friend for a week)

R25:
- Very Neutral riding position (upright), good for long distance + fairing for wind blocking
- slow acceleration (very linear), but can make quick speed jumps at mid-high power delivery (very nice) // this is nature of 2 cyl engine.
- easily reach and maintain 140kmph speeds.
- If you're in jam, get ready to learn to blajar cilok2 as it has quite a big frame
- Latest instrument panels ( gear indicator too yo!)
- (2.1 litre emgine oil needed if change filter, 1.8 if no filter)
- 19km/l if hantam throttle 24/7. 27+ if ride normal (14l tank)
- very noticable handle vibrations when going 7k rpm+
- has a wierd braking feeling at front brakes.
- sounds very nice if changed exhaust ( my friend using proliner fullsystem)

If you'd like hear my thoughts on my z250sl do let me know.

- drop more gears and stay above 10k rpm and you get super fast acceleration. 0 to 100 is within 5 to 6 seconds.
And no, is not 2 cylinder nature, it's how most Sportbikes are typically configured to rev to the stratosphere.
(Example, the naked Mt series Sportbike have power much earlier despite being same 2 cylinder)

- hantam harder until rev limiter. You get only 15 to 17 km/l

EDIT: oh yeah, forgot to mention that if ur thinking of buying a 250cc bike, id recommend buying used. the itch to upgrade will come very quickly and the itch is very strong.... so if u do, at least u wont lose out much.

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I wish someone had advised me earlier. The itch is really strong.

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EDIT: oh yeah, forgot to mention that if ur thinking of buying a 250cc bike, id recommend buying used. the itch to upgrade will come very quickly and the itch is very strong.... so if u do, at least u wont lose out much.

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I wish someone had advised me earlier. The itch is really strong.

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Just upgrade...