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lingleeyen
post Oct 21 2017, 08:57 PM

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Parts are coming fron tongshan...n the price will be cheaper than local made...sei mei
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post Oct 21 2017, 09:02 PM

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Chinese parts are based on “cheap things no good, good things not cheap”. Sekian.
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post Oct 21 2017, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(Darth Vaper @ Oct 21 2017, 09:02 PM)
Chinese parts are based on “cheap things no good, good things not cheap”. Sekian.
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If pay full price, china product also got good one, they can do anything based on budget given.


Hope proton will be back with good fc engine..

Good luck Proton.. recently their cust serv is very good , personal experience
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post Oct 21 2017, 09:42 PM

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few years ago, my fren who worked in automotive exhaust suppliers to Berokdua, Ploton etc

told me Plotong QC tak boleh pakai langsung, no do any QC, kenot detect problem exhaust parts. Always ngopi & ular one.

Berokdua QC on the other hand, really got do work one.
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post Oct 21 2017, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(-Aktan- @ Oct 21 2017, 09:38 PM)
If pay full price, china product also got good one, they can do anything based on budget given.
Hope proton will be back with good fc engine..

Good luck Proton.. recently their cust serv is very good , personal experience
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That’s my point but are they willing to?
nasiputih
post Oct 21 2017, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(enviro @ Oct 21 2017, 07:32 PM)
If vendors are disturbed, the CEO will be forced to resign for love of ireland ..china.
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post Oct 21 2017, 09:56 PM

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proton brand?

no thanks.
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post Oct 21 2017, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(qattara13 @ Oct 21 2017, 05:17 PM)
Part of the problem that has dogged Proton for a long time is the substandard parts and components manufactured by its vendor, and this initially started in the late 90's as part of the vendor development program (VDP) which was initiated by Tun M, to fill in the gaps in the then manufacturing supply chain to introduce more local content and participation. It was a brilliant idea then, and gave rise to some notable names in local automobile parts and components.

While some thrived and went on to supply other car manufacturers, the bulk of them (encouraged by Proton's lack of quality control and production planning as well as lop sided supply contracts), remained the same, and in fact supplied proton with substandard parts and components, which ultimately led to Proton's slide downwards. Although the problem was identified, it lacked management (and political will) to address partly due to nepotism and cronyism.

Anyway under Geely, and with the manufacturing outfit under new management, I think most of them will not make the cut. Those who choose to re-invent, retool and meet the specifications will survive, and from the ashes of the ones who go out of business, will give rise to a new breed of vendors, whom hopefully will be able to compete at the global level. As the say, its all about survival of the fittest..
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post Oct 21 2017, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(-Aktan- @ Oct 21 2017, 09:38 PM)
If pay full price, china product also got good one, they can do anything based on budget given.
Hope proton will be back with good fc engine..

Good luck Proton.. recently their cust serv is very good , personal experience
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so instead of improve products after years of complaints, they improve cust service . laugh.gif
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post Oct 21 2017, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Oct 21 2017, 06:14 PM)
Doubtful any will survive.

Seriously, China can supply the parts in bulk and way cheaper than local.
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post Oct 21 2017, 10:36 PM

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best car is proton inspira.. the best
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post Oct 21 2017, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(NuKkE @ Oct 21 2017, 06:10 PM)
Assuming china sub vendor will have better quality control. Pff
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Geely is not some shady tongsan carmaker.

They got good enough supply chain to assemble Volvo, their own cars improved a hell a lot since taking over Volvo. The engineeering knowledge and manpower they poached from Volvo is no joke.

But who knows if cronies' interest is more important, later ceo wanna balik tongsan also. They edi got Lotus, so proton's success really depends on ownself's will to succeed.
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post Oct 21 2017, 11:43 PM

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Most of the existing vendors should be terminated, to send out a message what's they want quality.
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post Oct 22 2017, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 21 2017, 10:09 PM)
so instead of improve products after years of complaints, they improve cust service .  laugh.gif
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Refer to sentence above.

Service can improve ahead of product refresh, u know it.
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post Oct 22 2017, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(-Aktan- @ Oct 22 2017, 12:22 AM)
Refer to sentence above.

Service can improve ahead of product refresh, u know it.
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service is way more easy to improve than actual engineering product development of a car.


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post Oct 22 2017, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 22 2017, 12:24 AM)
service is way more easy to  improve than actual engineering product development of a car.
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Next, we'll wait for the actual improvement of products.

If materialize, good.
If not, proton still a sohai


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post Oct 22 2017, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(-Aktan- @ Oct 22 2017, 12:30 AM)
Next, we'll wait for the actual improvement of products.

If materialize, good.
If not, proton still a sohai
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long time more leh.. end 2018 for global model to be launch i.e that right hand drive SUV kan and its a higher end product. biggrin.gif
in between just sell old stuff like facelift preve! biggrin.gif
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post Oct 22 2017, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 22 2017, 12:33 AM)
long time more leh.. end 2018 for global model to be launch i.e that right hand drive SUV kan and its a higher end product.  biggrin.gif
in between just sell old stuff like facelift preve!  biggrin.gif
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Then no chance liao... ask tongshan boss kasi subsidy la

If cannot tahan until SUV launch sudah close shop sudah

Sendiri slow dont blame others

Lol sudahlah...

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