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post Dec 16 2018, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(cms @ Dec 16 2018, 11:07 PM)
Or cancel the access card as the rightful owner.
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Tis on definitely can.

Air dan api more critical. No one can live in an apartment without these
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post Dec 17 2018, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(leodinouknow @ Dec 16 2018, 11:45 PM)
your method cannot pakai la. landlord normally ask tenant own go pay the bill. so not matter who go pay the money, management still will take it. malaysia is popular with DONATION without name
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Water bill....tenant pays
Maintenance fee....landlord pays

So easier fior landlord ask mght to cancer parking card and lift access.

But we also talked abt previous owner of a lelong popety
If he still in the house despite unit being lelong.
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post Dec 18 2018, 01:54 AM

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there are 12 virgins at southvilles…..


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post Dec 18 2018, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Dec 18 2018, 02:24 PM)
what happened to the owner after unit kena lelong? even the lelong price is more than  outstanding loan with bank? kena blacklist?
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Any shortfall due to lelong and etc....owner still need to fill the black hole of the loan.

If owner is unable to do so, bank will file for bankrupcy proceeding.

If successful owner is techinically still OWNING THIS DEBT TIL HE GOES TO GRAVE unless he pays it off during his life time.

Needless to say....he wont be able to obtain any forn of credit from finance institution.


Thast why our loan shark biz is still doing great
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post Dec 19 2018, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 18 2018, 03:03 PM)
At current market sentiment, it is rare for lelong price to be more than outstanding loan. if market price is higher than outstanding loan, borrower should have sold in the market as it cost $$$ to go through auction, etc.
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1st lelong price is market value deemed fit to list.

And trend down 10% every month.

Not everybody obtained ltv 90.

Most ltv 70. Some even ltv55.

Unless lelong price started from 55% below spa price....
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post Dec 21 2018, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Dec 21 2018, 04:18 AM)

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instalment is called ansuran in Bahasa?

why dont the bank make it a sop to offer advise to home buyer for alternative solution behind putting up the property for auction?

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post Dec 21 2018, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(e-lite @ Dec 21 2018, 10:18 AM)
What the poster meant is the defaulter lost his house, and still have to service his loan of RM2,500 per month until the shortfall amount + interest is completed. Means if your loan was RM1mil, your lelong house sold for RM500k, you still have to payback RM500k if you don't want to be bankrupt. The RM2,500 per month is for the RM500k.

In short, he lost his house and still have to repay something he doesn't have.
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he didn't own the house in the 1st place although he thought he did.
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post Dec 21 2018, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 21 2018, 02:44 PM)
This has nothing to do with government.

This is the bank. After 3 failed auctions, the property could not be sold for 500k. So the bank already considered they can't recover the full loan sum. And thus better settle at discount to the loan sum.

The bank isn't following the standard SOP. Irrespectively whatever is the bidding price, they have the right to pursue the shortfall from the borrower after offsetting  the money from auction.

Bank can simply just discount one ? I want to know which bank is this. wink.gif
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not which bank....

owner is from UMNO which branch.....
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post Dec 22 2018, 12:10 PM

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bank's only interest is the outstanding loan and the physicality of the house.

what inside the house is none of their business and they don't care, even thought am sure they know if the owner or tenant is still in the house, the value will be lower.

but bank also dun care bcos they can still chase after the money owed by owner after the property is lelong.
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post Dec 22 2018, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 22 2018, 12:59 PM)
Bank could recover any shortfall from borrower regardless of the situation. why bother to evict occupant? if bank to evict occupant, borrower could come to bank for humanity pledge, which bank managers are reluctant to face.
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you are wrong icey

I believe both banker and borrower/owner already made many times, cried til tears dry many round, turning table and use bad languages to one and other many times before the unit is put on auction.

unless borrower just ignore all correspondences from banker, typically if borrowers are runners or based overseas or foreign buyers.
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post Dec 23 2018, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 22 2018, 03:04 PM)
As said previously; if borrower is genuinely in trouble but still has the will and capability to repay, most banks would restructure the facility. bank is not in charity, could only restructure only at most 2 times. if the bank decided to recall the facility i.e auction, it will handle by different department e.g recovery, legal,  which borrower hardly has access to or meet.
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your explanation is greatly departure from your early statement....that banker doesn't want to face the borroower.

restructure two times don't have to face the borrower? in person? everything done thru wassup face time and email?
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post Dec 23 2018, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 22 2018, 09:12 PM)
It is also bank's discretion not to evict occupants.
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bank never evict occupants lah……

discretion never comes in play.

have you ever seen bank halau occupants like a dog on to the street and pad locked the unit?

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post Dec 23 2018, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(vasculio82 @ Dec 23 2018, 08:46 AM)
too much liability later
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they only interested in the loan sum.


if they really want to achieve highest bidder and make full recovery of loan sum, they would have recruited make over guy to done up the house leng leng, invite public review before go on auction.


however, if they do so, meaning all the borrowers already no need to care abt rental yields and cap gain jor…..just pass on the bank and they will kaotim.

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post Dec 23 2018, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 23 2018, 12:14 PM)
Not I neglected it. You neglected it rather.

Why you post something about it has zero impact without mentioning the time frame and what not ?

We are seeing the bank as one entity, we are never concerned about how one department of the bank sees it.
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this icy fella, when she made a mistake, she would rather keep quiet one....never ONCE I read a statement from her that said 'sorry I have made a mistake'.

instead she will pusing pusing story until everyone kepala pening and then she claimed victorious.

I also malas nak discuss further....with her..... devil.gif


but i gave this to her....not many female forumers that engage discussion with majority male forumers here. it takes knowledge and gut, even thought in cyber world we should be seeing each person as asexual, not male or female.


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post Dec 26 2018, 09:33 PM

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Sure got cash rebate wan...
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post Dec 27 2018, 06:06 AM

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one year ago parklane prices already dropped so much jor..

from the bricks report, obviously some hand and leg had been made to buy at 500k.

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post Dec 28 2018, 04:49 PM

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rm150k for chicken cage (as the lady said...haha)..

far too overpriced...….

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post Jan 13 2019, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 13 2019, 01:58 PM)
Believe the trend was casted when dibs was available, many hoped to flip upon vp. What is happening at auction is basically a fallout from 2011-2014 property bull run.
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Gov banned dibs in 2013.

Bull run didnt run til 2014. It was started in 2010 and end around 2012.
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post Jan 13 2019, 10:49 PM

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I prefer to look at my subsale properties.
2014 15 already on the down trend....no longer bbb....from subsale buyers..
The peak of bull run was btw 2010 to 2012 when we talked abt subsale.

Those bought off plan in 2012 will be doing it tough when vped.

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post Jan 19 2019, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Jan 19 2019, 10:12 AM)
FD heading 5% soon, if RY <10%, what's the point for such hassle.
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One local bank already offered 5% for 3 months placement.

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