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 "Airbnb/hotel" style management for apartments, Are these companies legitimate?

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Doraemon80
post Oct 24 2018, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(morris6660 @ Sep 24 2018, 01:50 PM)
using subhome
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Good?
Doraemon80
post Nov 4 2018, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(morris6660 @ Oct 28 2018, 11:57 AM)
subhome now are selling 50% to airasia , so that leverage subhome power should be ok
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https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...-rental-market/

Whatever is too good to be true, it is too good to be true.
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post Nov 4 2018, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Oct 14 2017, 10:32 PM)
Points to consider ....

1. Is easy to jump in but to get out, read the termination clause.

2. The revenue is dependent on the monthly statement received ... how would one know whether the unit is 30 days or  20 days occupied in a month.

3. Whose responsibility for replacement of missing / damaged items / property. Should be the management co since they are the one screening the guests .... but would they agree....their priority is to have more bookings to make more money to cover cost . ..so any guest will do even with poor reviews.

4. 40% is inclusive or exclusive of maintainance, internet, cable tv, electricity and water charges. Should be exclusive ... one will be getting less than 60%

5. Booking.com charges 15% commission for every booking...for every booking, they pay to landlord less than 60%. Airbnb charges 5%. So it depends on where the booking comes from....will the co let the landlord knows.

6. Finally ... is all about money ... how reliable is their monthly payment to the owner. Like all GRR scheme .... always prompt at the beginning only!
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Totally agree. Beware of this S u b h o m e

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post Nov 5 2018, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(morris6660 @ Nov 5 2018, 11:06 AM)
if you worry so much....you management yourself, try to think big.... forget it bout small money
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Haha... I know what u don’t... if u like to be con so be it!
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post Nov 5 2018, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(Doraemon80 @ Nov 4 2018, 11:27 AM)
https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...-rental-market/

Whatever is too good to be true, it is too good to be true.
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11% ROI? Means u get free house in less than 10 years? Haha...What a joke! A paid article?

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post Nov 5 2018, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(morris6660 @ Nov 5 2018, 01:45 PM)
so much tenants now are joining subhome, you think you want then you can join?? only selected condo, and you need to take renovation package like hotel, only can join....
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Haha... simi tenant? U mean u are a tenant and not treated as a landlord by SubHome? Omg!! I am a landlord and not a tenant and definitely occupying a v prime location! Lol
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post Nov 6 2018, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(morris6660 @ Nov 6 2018, 01:41 PM)
sorry , because of my mention all the investor are tenant because of all the property under bank loan, so your property are bank , not yours, thats why i mention tenants, for you maybe landlord, the others you re too ego, when u no trust someone else and think big, how can u growth deep for all your invest and business? may i ask, you got how many property you invest rite now?
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Then u should call yourself a Mortgagor...smile.gif
U seem pretty satisfied with SubHome.. So how much returns are u getting? Can cover your monthly mortgage?
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post Nov 7 2018, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(balistafear @ Nov 7 2018, 12:22 PM)
Terrible, terrible deal. They are making use of you as time poor rental property owners. Probably laughing among themselves now saying they are the Uber of Property - we don't own any asset, but we own the biggest business! Haha
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Wow..pls share more! A bunch of thugs? Scamming under a so called company?
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post Nov 7 2018, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(Existenz99 @ Nov 5 2018, 08:18 PM)
Hi morris6660,

I am seriously considering...

How’s the return like? Can get ROI 11% return like it’s mentioned in the article? That means that if I bought a 1 mil condo, the rental returns on my side will be 9.1k per month.
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Best if there are owners who are willing to disclose their rental returns but then again, exercise your own due diligence as there could be moles planted in this forum. Don’t jump into it. Make sure the terms and conditions are favourable to yourself! Get a lawyer to read and make sure u can get out anytime by giving them a month notice!
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post Nov 12 2018, 10:54 PM

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To see if should work with a company need to look at who helm the company. Does the person has integrity? A no no if there is serious integrity problem!

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post Nov 12 2018, 10:56 PM

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https://www.primabuzz.com/subhome-success-a...rship-strategy/
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post Nov 12 2018, 10:57 PM

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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2067493/+280
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post Nov 12 2018, 10:59 PM

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Look at who helm Subhome and who sent those emails at Freemen. Omg!
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post Nov 12 2018, 11:51 PM

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Some more Malaysia do not have unfair contract law! Enter any contract with them at your own risk!

https://www.thestar.com.my/opinion/letters/...r-contract-law/
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post Nov 17 2018, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(morris6660 @ Nov 15 2018, 03:01 PM)
Under SUbhome manage robberson and summer suite occupancy rate 90%
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So what? Does it translates into equally impressive profit for u? Tell me what is the revenue u get? How much u as an owner is getting? It is so easy to reach 90% occupancy rate by lowering rents! Who pays for it? It is u the owner as cost are already deducted from your returns and they take another cut! Hahaha.. what win win situation! It’s they win u lose!

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post Nov 18 2018, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(morris6660 @ Nov 18 2018, 12:34 PM)
no feel want argue with u, for my mindset is, can cover my loan installment interest is enough, no need to mangage at all this is point, and leverage subhome big platform, better then u advertisement yourself and find housekeeping, thats all, maybe u no much property so u dunno manage rent and manage airbnb how hard....
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Hahaha.. Then stop advertising for Subhome. It is just sub. Don’t dupe people into the con co! just so shady. Can’t even give a decent return in a prime location compared to just a simple Airbnb service provider. Hype itself around big names but can’t deliver. Or too many under table deal.. shady shady co. Don’t trust it and others should be warned not to get into it. I warned others who wants to use it. go Get a lawyer to read the terms and conditions. Make sure u can exit anytime and not bind to it for years. Shady shady...

Look who helms the TOP...
somebody from freemen previously... shady shady!
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post Nov 18 2018, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(morris6660 @ Nov 18 2018, 12:34 PM)
no feel want argue with u, for my mindset is, can cover my loan installment interest is enough, no need to mangage at all this is point, and leverage subhome big platform, better then u advertisement yourself and find housekeeping, thats all, maybe u no much property so u dunno manage rent and manage airbnb how hard....
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I dare u to just say how much u get and from which location lah.. waste time advertising u!
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post Nov 18 2018, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(morris6660 @ Nov 18 2018, 12:34 PM)
no feel want argue with u, for my mindset is, can cover my loan installment interest is enough, no need to mangage at all this is point, and leverage subhome big platform, better then u advertisement yourself and find housekeeping, thats all, maybe u no much property so u dunno manage rent and manage airbnb how hard....
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So how much property u own since I don’t have much. Or rather are u on behalf of sub managing many units that u know how hard it is and ripping the owners
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post Nov 21 2018, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(morris6660 @ Nov 19 2018, 11:30 AM)
Good Luck
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Haha u need it more!
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post Nov 21 2018, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(prophecus @ Nov 19 2018, 11:38 AM)
I would recommend this. However, as if with other businesses, due diligence and audit is important. Install wireless camera at the front door to monitor actual occupancy. Demand access to listing at airbnb to monitor rating and feedback.
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Totally agree with this.

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