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 LYN F1 V15 Season, Continuation from V14 2017

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post Mar 22 2018, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(NyOx @ Mar 21 2018, 04:05 PM)
Excited to watch F1 this weekend. enjoys full calendar for this season!!

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Yah, first race always got excitement of wondering how the teams will stack up.
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post Mar 23 2018, 11:36 AM

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As expected, Mercs top with RB & Ferrari behind. Note though that RB & Ferrari were using slightly harder SS tires as opposed to Mercs on US, so still unsure of the true ultimate pace yet.

As expected also, McLaren is still ahvign reliability issues! sad.gif But at least they have more competitive pace now.
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post Mar 23 2018, 11:10 PM

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Ugh damn ugly halo-ed cars!
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post Mar 26 2018, 11:32 AM

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It's obvious that pitting under safety car (real or virtual) should be beneficial, coz everyone will have to slow down and hence take longer to go around the track. If one is on the pit stop window like Seb was, then of course he can benefit from pitting under the safety car period.

I agree that it's good though that the winning car is not yet the fastest one, so let the fastest car try to close the points gap.

Good to see McLaren (even with some luck) able to score good points and both cars finishing. At least for now they have vindicated their switch from Honda to Renault. TR on the other hand still struggling as expected.

Very pity for Hass, unbelievable that they could screw up on both cars pit stops. At least pace wise they seem to lead the midfield pack now.
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post Mar 26 2018, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Mar 26 2018, 06:53 AM)
But a really 'pie (more likely punch) in the face moment' for Ham. Haha
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Especially after the joke Ham made on Saturday to Seb. Lucky for him Seb did not fire at him during the podium interview coz he could have done that very easily!
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post Mar 26 2018, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(outpace @ Mar 26 2018, 03:36 PM)
Lewis himself had couple of lucky moment, including one in Monaco when he damaged his tyre, salvaged by a pitstop and got even better luck by having safety car later, he was crowned as champion in that Monaco GP. Forgot which year was it.

If "Strat 14" mode do take away the lifespan of the engine, I would've not activated it if I'm in the 44 car, but I'm sitting here and not the world champion.

but Lewis was complaining that no one in Merc told him that Seb would be very close after Ferrari pitstop, I think that's an overlook/mistake from Mercedes (or it's just the way they managing their driver on track by not telling them), but I doubt it will be useful, because even if Lewis had been informed,  how fast can he go under the VSC mode? 

So damage limitation @ 2nd place. expecting more for 2018
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Mercs said there's a software problem that gave them the incorrect time estimation on the VSC window. Anyway as you said Lewis also cannot do anything as his speed was already governed by the VSC rule like everyone else and if he went faster then he should get penalized which is even worse. It's just Seb's luck that he's in that window to exploit the advantage, just like any advantage that can be gained during normal safety car too.
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post Mar 26 2018, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Mar 26 2018, 05:00 PM)
I watched the interview just for that... But didn't happened. Haha
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Yeah exactly, I was already anticipating that Seb would fire back with stinging joke at Ham but surprisingly he did not! Maybe he decided to be classy and just did not want to rub the salt in the wound. laugh.gif
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post Mar 26 2018, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(Aydee @ Mar 26 2018, 05:13 PM)
He doesn't have to, Lewis made himself look like a fool already for being so smug.
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Hahaha Lewis wears his heart on his sleeve.
Maybe Seb is also saving it until the end of the season if he managed to win the title. He doesn't want to celebrate too much as he knows the Merc is still faster.
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post Mar 28 2018, 05:31 PM

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Seb's hair cut makes him look like a white supremacist, isn't he? laugh.gif
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post Mar 29 2018, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Mar 29 2018, 03:50 AM)
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Still the best duel best french round ever👍Battle within gentlemens agreement👍
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When race drivers were still gladiators!
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post Apr 5 2018, 12:34 AM

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What do you guys think of Saturday sprint race for F1? I'm all for it but they would still need to determine the sprint race grid position with qualifying on Friday. Then there's the case of engine + gearbox lifetime, should allow for more allocation per season.

http://www.planetf1.com/news/formula-1-con...for-qualifying/

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post Apr 5 2018, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(Aydee @ Apr 5 2018, 01:16 PM)
Sprint race as qualifying is a good idea but on full race day they should use the same settings and start with the same tyres for at least a few laps(maybe 10 laps min?) so if they are very quick in a sprint race, they may not be as quick on race day,this will give teams a headache on how to compromise the 2 races but interesting for strategy plus those who are genuinely quick will get to overtake those who aren't on race day. They can refuel on raceday prior to start so that sprint race they can turn up the fuel flow as much as they want. Sprint race grid position should be determined by aggregate of the 3 FPs. Points to be awarded for sprint race too. I would also like to see wildcard entries for a third car,give a chance to every team to get their reserve driver to race in the sprint race ie one season 12 wildcard entries, one entry for each team.
Engine + gearbox allocation can stick in my opinion but rather that grid penalties for the drivers, should be some other sort of penalty for the team(maybe cash fine?,team points deducted?) because I think it's unfair to the drivers when it is not their fault that their engine expires.
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Hmm I don't quite agree with using that same tire thing in a sense it kinda makes it like a very long race split into 2 days. On engine/gearbox penalty, I still think better to give a bit more allowance if got this sprint race but I agree with you on the penalty points more for the constructor instead of the driver if need to change engine/gearbox.
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post Apr 9 2018, 11:18 AM

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Good race by Seb to be able to run that long using the softs. Good also that Ferrari was able to react effectively by switching to their plan B, so far they are able to make 2 correct pit strategy in 2 races already.

Very pity for Kimi's crew, imagine a 1000HP car launching and twisting on your leg! That also causes a potential 15 points for Kimi & Ferrari.

Excellent performance by Gasly & Ericsson. This is supposed to be a power track yet Honda finished the best of the rest! Alonso and McLaren must be scratching their heads, but having said that, Alonso now is 4th already on the standings! laugh.gif On the team side, looks like McLaren is firmly replacing Williams as a historically winning team but now just a midfield while Williams is replacing Sauber at the back! laugh.gif
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post Apr 10 2018, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Apr 10 2018, 02:11 AM)
I think regardless Bottas drove quicker in more laps, outcome still the same. He has to overtake the almighty Ferrari-Vettel, it's a hard task. Mercedes are not good in tailgating behind as the turbulence causing their downforce not working well...
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Apr 10 2018, 05:57 AM)
I beg to differ... If bottas attacking earlier, vettel tyres will be gone earlier because he need to defend. Vettel himself said there's nothing left in the tyres on the last lap. However bottas only start closing down on vettel after its clear that vettel not pitting again.

Btw, Mercedes might be fooled by vettel radio message saying 'he got everything under control'... Haha
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I agree, I think if Bottas pushed harder earlier then he might have a chance to win it. Problem is, in this age of F1, the drivers are very reliant on the team to set the target time for them based on computer simulation which sometimes might not be correct.
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post Apr 13 2018, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Apr 13 2018, 11:02 AM)
I think the problem with mclaren honda last few years is that mclaren didn't want to compromise on their 'best chassis' to accommodate honda design... Unlike TR
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McLaren seems more stuck up! laugh.gif Typical of a team which has such a rich winning history and still got money.
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post Apr 13 2018, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(Aydee @ Apr 13 2018, 04:38 PM)
My point is,last few years he was almost always outperformed in almost all sessions by his team mate. This year it seems kind of consistently ahead.

Some more statistics for you guys. All time fastest lap records. Guest who holds the most of the current drivers.
no Driver Nb
1 SCHUMACHER Michael 77
2 RAIKKONEN Kimi 45
3 PROST Alain 41
4 HAMILTON Lewis 38
5 VETTEL Sebastian 33
6 MANSELL Nigel 30
7 CLARK Jim 28
8 HAKKINEN Mika 25
9 LAUDA Niki 24
10 FANGIO Juan Manuel 23
11 PIQUET Nelson 23
12 ALONSO Fernando 23
13 BERGER Gerhard 21
14 ROSBERG Nico 20
15 MOSS Stirling 19
16 SENNA Ayrton 19
17 HILL Damon 19
18 WEBBER Mark 19
19 COULTHARD David 18
20 BARRICHELLO Rubens 17
21 STEWART Jackie 15
22 REGAZZONI Clay 15
23 MASSA Felipe 15
24 ICKX Jacky 14
25 JONES Alan 13
26 PATRESE Riccardo 13
27 ASCARI Alberto 12
28 BRABHAM Jack 12
29 ARNOUX René 12
30 MONTOYA Juan-Pablo 12
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Kimi got most of his fastest laps when he was in McLaren and during his first Ferrari period, basically when he was still on top of his game. Anyway fastest laps doesn't mean much, just look at Senna whom I and many still considered as the fastest and best ever racer only managed 19 fastest laps, less than even Gerhard Berger and Nico Rosberg! It's the pole position that counts more as the showcase of pure speed/talent.
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post Apr 13 2018, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(Aydee @ Apr 13 2018, 05:39 PM)
I'm all about stats today lol. In Kimi's 4 years at McLaren, he had 31 retirements, In his 8 (combined) years at Ferrari, he only had 24 retirements. I believe without as many retirements, he would've been a multiple world champion at McLaren. You can't compare Senna anyway, different era, different rules, different mindset. In those days most of the fast cars blow up. The theme then was to "win in the slowest possible time". Senna undoubtedly is one of the greatest.
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Yes, I know Kimi should've been a multiple champ if not for many technical retirements and Schumy getting away with cheating. For example in 2003, he would have been champ with only a single win (like KK Rosberg) if Schumy was not conveniently pushed back on track by the marshals in Nurburgring hairpin. Also same case in 2005, Alonso would not have been champ if Kimi had less technical problems. Those days he was really fast at least in the dry (not so in the wet). But in his 2nd Ferrari period, he is already a shadow of himself, easily beaten by Alonso and now Seb (even when Seb just join in their first year together). His fastest laps, or anyone's fastest laps doesn't mean that much coz got other variables in the race that are in play, unlike pole position. Pole position is different because that's the time you go all out in the fastest setup with a clear track, hence a true showcase of pure raw speed, the essence of driving skill I'd say. Like real55555 posted above, when it matters (qualifying and race), so far it's Seb who can get better results despite also having less fastest laps record than Kimi.

That approach to win in the slowest possible time is ALWAYS valid in racing, even more so today! That's why now engineers play an even more important role in determining the target lap times so that they can win while still preserving the machinery, especially since nowadays engines and gearboxes have to last so many races. Actually this approach is even more evident in this last few years and that's why drivers often complain that they cannot race all out. During Senna's era, they only need the engine & gearbox to last 1 race, so they can actually go flat out more but in Senna's case apparently he did not! Coz he had crushed his opponents during qualifying and therefore he can manage from the front, not needing to record fastest laps so often. I think he learnt his lesson the hard way during the 1988 Monaco where he had a big lead yet crashing due to him still trying to record fast laps. That's why I also think pole position means so much more than fastest laps to showcase who are really the faster/more talented drivers. (it was a bit distorted during Schumy era where they introduced fueling strategy into qualifying though).
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post Apr 15 2018, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Apr 14 2018, 07:56 PM)
"No driver has ever won the first three races, and not gone on to win that season's title."
Wow, if Vettel gonna win tomorrow, the championship pretty much belongs to Vettel. Mercedes, try again next year if tmr you lose the game, haha.
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Luckily he did not! biggrin.gif


QUOTE(sphiroth @ Apr 15 2018, 02:22 PM)
Although I'm vettel fan, i think he overdid the squeeze on kimi
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If he didn't squeeze like that, Kimi would have passed him.

QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Apr 15 2018, 03:54 PM)
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one thing to vettel, fernando is faster than you lol!!!!
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Yeah, that Fernando must be surprised to see Seb and able to overtook him! laugh.gif


QUOTE(voscar @ Apr 15 2018, 03:59 PM)
This year's Mercedes is the 3rd team in terms of car pace, strategy, and drivers. Ferrari and Red Bull can swipe them anytime. I bet this year Merc will take less than 8 wins, haha.
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Hmm I would not go as far as that coz Mercs still has the pace over RB, just not able to convert properly so far.

QUOTE(dman @ Apr 15 2018, 04:04 PM)
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Max is totally speechless... Stupidity can't cure sad.gif
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He is still very young la, still has much time to learn and improve.

QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 15 2018, 07:55 PM)
Torro Rosso accident, RBR won...

Hopefully the axed driver wont came out and NelsonPiquet2.0
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That's exactly what I was thinking! laugh.gif What a coincidence!
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post Apr 15 2018, 11:09 PM

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All in all, this is the first blunder for Ferrari. Pretty bad strategy also with Kimi, as it's very obvious he was set as the sacrificing lamb to block Bottas. Thye got what they deserve with such sinister strategy where they should have gotten a win and a podium but instead only able to get 3rd with their less preferred driver! Lucky for them, it's not Ham who took full advantage. Merc though had overtaken Ferrari at the top of the constructor by 1 pt. So yeah, should be quite a slap in their face!

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post Apr 16 2018, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Apr 16 2018, 11:42 AM)
Max can learn from Dani on how to overtake without contact. Some really brave and forceful moves yesterday by DR but he made no contact at all.
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DR is probably the best overtaker now on the grid. He has done several of those impressive moves before.

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