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jamespaul
post Dec 16 2017, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Dec 14 2017, 06:19 PM)
130 km/h, if you reduce to 120 km/h should can do much better. Anything above 110 km/h you waste a lot power to overcome air drag.
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Best speed for economy is around 70-90km/h.

Civic 1.5 feels floaty at 130km/h. You guys must be too brave to drive comfortably higher than that.
jamespaul
post Dec 16 2017, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Lucky_Wishes @ Dec 15 2017, 11:00 AM)
i did consider civic before before head for accord 2.4, but most of the time fetching family and kids. only speed 200km/h in a while if drive alone..
by the way im 32 only...too uncle? blink.gif
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200km/h on the highway??? Dangerous and Accord brakes are not built to stop well from such high speeds. PLease uprate your brakes before going so fast.
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post Dec 20 2017, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Dec 16 2017, 02:12 PM)
130 is nothing. Must be your tire pressure.
Always cruising around  140-150 in highway
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Tire pressure is not it. It is the aero of the car.

Some people can drive their Myvi 140km/h. I am not that kind of person. So, for me, the Civic is safe till 130km/h.

I plan to upgrade my tyres soon.
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post Dec 20 2017, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(polosedan @ Dec 20 2017, 10:53 AM)
anyone install the ultra racing bar? worth to install ?
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With Malaysia's poor road conditions, please avoid.

Ride quality in the Civic is good, with all these unnecessary bars, you are going to ruin the ride quality at the expense of a bit better handling.

Also, long term, the car will suffer too (mounting points of these bars are not meant to take long term forces)

But, to each its own.

If you want better handling, upgrade tyres first. get PS4 or GY A3.
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post Dec 20 2017, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(SackBoy @ Dec 15 2017, 10:06 AM)
Alcantara wrap to test water, adding slight touch for luxury or ugliness(subjective). Was told that the material is same as mercedes alcantara.
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Looks good, where did you get it done?

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post Dec 23 2017, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(j-insigh @ Dec 22 2017, 01:48 PM)
Looking to change that yellow headlight bulb too. Any recommendation?
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Try this. You wont have issues with JPJ and glare


https://www.osram.asia/am/ecat/NIGHT%20BREA...at/ZMP_4054436/


If you were to install HID, you will get stopped by JPJ and burn your headlamp cover (long run, the headlight lens will turn yellow faster too). Also, you will be glaring everybody

If you were to install LED, you will get stopped by JPJ and lose brightness, LED on halogen reflectors or projectors are not perfect. Also, tons of glare.
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post Dec 23 2017, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(al1800 @ Dec 23 2017, 12:51 PM)
1.5 TC owners, what is average fuel consumption for city and highway driving ?
Is fc better for 1.8. Evaluating on which model to buy.
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1.5 = ~12km/l (based on three different cars)
1.8 = ~13km/l (based on three different cars)

Also, it depends on your driving style. if you do a lot of highway driving, the turbo would be better.

If you can afford it, get the 1.5 turbo.
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post Dec 24 2017, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(wtkace @ Dec 24 2017, 01:01 AM)
Hi, I'm planning to buy a 2nd hand civic.

I'm quite a frequent long distance travel person, may I know whether does 1.5TC or 1.8S is more suitable for me? In terms of fuel consumption & maintenance.
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Long run, turbos are more expensive to maintain.
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post Jan 3 2018, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(bcteh @ Jan 3 2018, 02:34 PM)
I think those opt for 0w-20 engine oil into their turbo civic is going to be disaster.
0w-20 meant for low rev and save fuel and it provide the least protection.
I don't think the engine will last long if you always use the turbo.

For those who always high rev and drive fast, better get 5w-30 or 10w-30 for better protection. 10w-30 also quite fuel economical also.
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If the oil used by Honda is good oil, and if the car's tolerance is designed for 0w-20 oil, the car will be fine.

Using thicker oil, will make your less efficient. Also, if you use thinner "W" oil, it's better for start up.

Use thicker oil, if you are going to track the car for extra protection.
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post Jan 3 2018, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(DM3 @ Jan 3 2018, 02:41 PM)
its ok, new engine should use thinner oil and shouldn't be a prob, just trust HM
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Exactly
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post Jan 4 2018, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(bcteh @ Jan 4 2018, 10:49 AM)
Bro.. from this dyno chart .. torque max at 4500 - 5500.

I still remember the power for this Civic turbo is very linear and don't jump high suddenly.
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Civic 1.5 is tuned for efficiency not speed. Hence, the linear curve.

Civic 1.5 0-100km/h, tested with Vbox is 9.1s. stock everything, and no passenger.

Which is very respectable.

BCteh, good find
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post Jan 4 2018, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(berann @ Jan 4 2018, 11:25 AM)
1.5 turbo 0-100kmh 9.1 secs is too slow. test result depend on driver and conditions.

Performancedrive aus tested stock civic 0-100kmh in 7.54 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzV_zGVGrFw
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Looks like they brake torque their cars... hmmmm...
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post Jan 4 2018, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(azrinarizz @ Jan 4 2018, 11:52 AM)
Guys, wanna ask about my Civic 1.5 headlamp. Currently damn hard to see. So I plan to change it to HID. Where do you guys recommend to do?

I plan to use OSRAM. Some say use, NIGHT BREAKER LASER - H11 for high beam/low beam and H4 for the fog lamp. Any idea on the cost as well? Thanks. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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Never change to HID, it is illegal and has tons of glare. Pretty sure it voids your electricals warranty too

Try the OSRAM halogen performance bulbs, they should improve visibility. Pricing is around RM200-300
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post Jan 4 2018, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(metaled @ Jan 4 2018, 12:59 PM)
Plug and play, easy installation. Hardest part will be installing the bulb into your headlamp. 0 modification on your stock wiring, just plug in existing wire into the ballast. Provide great visibility, will not glare oncoming passenger (provided you buy high quality kit, installed correctly and check your beam angle )

Yes it is illegal but if your car comes with a projector headlamp, you wont be having problems with the LAW.
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Disagree. Projectors for Halogen is different from projectors for HID.

HID with projectors come with auto height adjustments and squirrel spotters for glare.

Halogen projectors are designed for halogens.

Also, HID requires huge current upon start up, this stresses a system that is not designed for it.

Your car battery may wear faster, the amount of UV from the HID bulbs will burn your projector housing and also may haze your headlights in the long run.

Using halogens in halogen housing, is still the best practice and safest to everyone
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post Jan 4 2018, 04:01 PM

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HID conversion kits are illegal because of glare!

In order for manufacturer to install HID kits, they first need to install Self Leveling actuators for the projectors. As HID lights are 50-100% brighter, this Self Leveling actuators ensures that the beams are aimed correctly.

Even if stock cars have mounts for HID ballasts, they still need to replace the whole projector module (projectors with self leveling actuators)

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-t...-kits-explained
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post Jan 4 2018, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(alvinrenren @ Jan 4 2018, 03:08 PM)
There is a possibility that the halogen ones are designed for HID ( not too sure about this civic). I recall on the crv although it is a halogen, they have a slot for hid conversion kit at each light fixture where you would slot the ballast as well. Used Philip HID conversion kit and no issue.

<there may be a slot for ballast but the projectors need to add self leveling kit and the projector lens must be changed and aimed correctly. There are no more Philips HID conversion kits (at least non genuine ones anyway. No issue to you buy tons of glare to other road users)>

Honda offer HID for certain model, like the old version of crv for premium full spec. It also depends on contries as well as we all know civic malaysia don’t have many of the stuff compared to civic USA.

Anyway to dwell deeper into this, manufacturer sometimes will design a base car (let’s say civic) and put in certain features as base model (not necessarily Malaysia spec 1.8 base model). Depend on country, they will offer different spec, take out stuff and put in stuff for the car. So sometimes u will see stuff in the car which does not make sense (like empty slot for buttons). To cut cost however, the frame ( in this case the headlight set) will still be HID compliant but just downgraded to halogen. This way the supplier for Honda would only need to concentrate on 100 million headlight ( for example) rather than different specification for different model. Honda then only able to cut cost as the supplier don’t need different manufacturing line as well.

Obviously for other car models which does not have this hid version for the premium line ( like myvi or iriz) it means the halogen headlight would not need to be designed to accommodate HID conversion. Which brings us to the question, for civic, some countries would require cars to be fitted HID depending on weather conditions and some need the headlight to be HID compliant just in case. Would Honda have different specification for this?

<a full HID retrofit costs more than just swapping out the Halogen bulb and replacing it with a HID bulb. you need to change the design of the projectors, as HID bulbs are much brighter and has different hot spots vs a halogen bulb. Honda may need to add Fresnel to the projector lens to manage glare for other road users. HID conversion kits are outlawed in most countries and Malaysia is one of them>

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post Jan 5 2018, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(alvinrenren @ Jan 4 2018, 06:43 PM)
Basically you are correct for hid is illegal due to glare. However if there is no glare then it is legal. Legality of the hid depends on whether the headlight is designed for hid or not, and not whether it is giving out too much glare( hard to dispute on ‘too much’ and level of glare)

If the headlight is designed for hid but instead of using hid, it was replaced with halogen due to several factor, upgrading it back to hid by having the conversion kit is not illegal. This is what my message is about.

As you also aware about, self levelling function is not an industry wide technology and requirement as not all car companies have them, even Honda previously who also sell cars with hid also do not have them, not to mention Chinese brands and Eastern European car brands.

All lights have to be properly adjusted to the specific level to have the furthest throw while not blinding oncoming traffic. This applies to halogen, hid, led, bright or less bright lights. Having a halogen headlight does not mean u can drive with a badly adjusted light( imagine driving with high beam all the time, those are also halogen).

However I do appreciate the link to the news from uk site. As mentioned, some countries (obviously not Malaysia ) do require cars to have hid, or the need to convert to them due to various factors, and meantime also have countries where hid is/ was illegal. But after the rich guys with the Benz and bmw start to use them, politicians then change the rules.

HID have further throw through the fog than LED or halogen, if anyone else is wondering. But it does not mean u start to use it as fog light as it is not designed for it. Rural area where there are no street lights but have high speed limits also will need those, especially dangerous if the road is tighter and have vegetation at sides, to warn others of your car.

Also obvious in this case are the fact that there is also small percentage of drivers have sensitive eyes especially to glare, as our driving license mostly are kopi style, no proper eye test for these, it could pose issue when driving, not least Hid lights but also the latest led street lights as well. This is actually a combination of few things, eyes, headlights/ street lights, and the windscreen. If the windscreen is not properly treated with the glass coating / sealant, time will degrade the glass and glare will increased. Now normally this does not pose any significant issue with people but the combination above will definitely cause some issue with a minor group or drivers.

My 20cents 😆....
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https://<link removed>/2017/04/14/are-halogen-...gal-we-ask-jpj/

All conversions are illegal, glare management requires the right tools. If a headlight is designed with Halogen bulbs in mind, they have clearer projector lens, larger squirrel spotters for signages and self-levelling.

How many shops in Malaysia do a HID conversion for any car do light aiming and alignment? That's why it has been made illegal.

HID from factories are typically aimed lower, have self leveling, fresnel-ed projector lens.

If conversion is by swapping out the entire headlight module with a factory HID setup, that is legal.

A direct bulb swap, it is illegal.
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post Jan 18 2018, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(lordwood @ Oct 2 2017, 09:52 PM)
just went for my 20k MM-B. SA mentioned need to follow month or mileage, whichever comes first...I was like WTF...couldn't i just follow the mileage but if follow mth, mine is over by 1+ month coz my car registered end june 2016. SA said takut warranty void.

Next service is 30k - free labour. I'm pretty sure I may not touch 10k km in the next 6 mths. SA advise me to go for earlier maintenance at end of Feb 2018 (5 mths) to ensure warranty still got cover.

what do you think..SA is reasonable or not?

btw bro ISR, thanks for continue v7. yay!  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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All car manufacturers recommends either follow intervals (months) or mileage.

Is this your first time owning a new car?

They can definitely void your warranty if you do not adhere to the service cycle. It is written in your user manual.

That said, they do provide some leeway but only around +- one or three weeks or +-500km
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post Jan 23 2018, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Jan 21 2018, 10:35 PM)
Recently got interested in biking. Been researching bike rake for Civic. Intend to carry my bike to nature location.

Anyone ever own a bike rake or able to carry the bike in car / boot?
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You are only allowed to put bikes on your roof. Putting on boot is illegal and you can get summons.

Try bike shops, they usually have multiple brands and solutions for you
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post Jan 23 2018, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Jan 23 2018, 01:08 PM)
Oh is there a law for not allowing bike hang at the back? Something new for me
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yes. It is illegal. JPJ can stop your car

https://asklegal.my/p/car-modification-illegal-jpj-malaysia

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