why civic no bring in sensing technology. fuk man it makes the car become like ancient car.
Official Honda Civic 10th Gen Owner/Fans Club V7, 10th Gen Dream Machine
Official Honda Civic 10th Gen Owner/Fans Club V7, 10th Gen Dream Machine
|
|
Jul 17 2018, 11:25 AM
Return to original view | Post
#1
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
10,859 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak |
why civic no bring in sensing technology. fuk man it makes the car become like ancient car.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Jul 17 2018, 11:36 AM
Return to original view | Post
#2
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
10,859 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak |
QUOTE(KnightSports @ Jul 17 2018, 11:28 AM) Wait la facelift. aiya.. wait facelift need wait at least 2yrs more lo.. mazda 3 oledi got those stuffs also.. btw is civic comfy to drive at uneven road? like sarawak punya road. i know a better car will be like a crossover or SUV but i cant get myself to love a SUV.. i am more of a sedan kind of guy. also nowadays no new sedan coming out. The civic didn't get facelift yet. They don't want to introduce features without any changes to the car. Nanti just court trouble and people complain why last week no sensing and this week got sensing. Then Honda PR dept manyak kerja buat. in love with new civic since it came out.. just no chance to buy yet lol.. |
|
|
Jul 17 2018, 11:54 AM
Return to original view | Post
#3
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
10,859 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak |
|
|
|
Jul 17 2018, 11:57 AM
Return to original view | Post
#4
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
10,859 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak |
QUOTE(KnightSports @ Jul 17 2018, 11:53 AM) The FC chassis Civic is a big departure from FD and FB chassis if you ask me. ohh okok..so still can absorb much of the uneven road and bump la.. but takut the lower arm suspension not so tahan lo.. maybe they wan go for mass market.. and last time FB punya tire noise very prominent inside the car also. i sit my fren hybrid CBU civic very noisy the road noise even car 2-3yrs only. i just hope it can travel 100-120km/h with decent amount of comfy level. cos maybe later need a car i can travel weekly 2hours long distance at sarawak road Is it Maybach levels of comfort, no. But it is much more comfier than earlier generations. That being said, it really compromised the handling feel of the car (my opinion la) It only works up to certain speed only. Doesn't mean you can play phone at 207km/h Sergeant will say what you want to hear when you belanja him starbucks |
|
|
Jul 17 2018, 02:36 PM
Return to original view | Post
#5
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
10,859 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak |
QUOTE(RichardN @ Jul 17 2018, 02:32 PM) I find that sign shows on your side mirror indicating a car is on the blind-spot is very useful and also when you reverse out from parking it will alert you on the on coming car. mazda 3 has most the advance safety function from it's CX-5 siblings.. thats why i wondering why honda havent buck up yet.. maybe becos they still top sales and most of the driver who bought honda civic never give a fuk about safety. Just like what they say when turn they prefer not to on signal... which is like stupid statement.I just went to check on Mazda 3 and they already have it... a little butthurt now... |
|
|
Jul 17 2018, 02:53 PM
Return to original view | Post
#6
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
10,859 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak |
QUOTE(RichardN @ Jul 17 2018, 02:50 PM) yeah that is 1 of the coolest features especially for night driving like kampung road in sarawak.. it is helpful and not gimmick type features. but see here ppl say also mazda 3 bad NVH and comfort level compare civic also susah buy.. |
|
|
|
|
|
Jul 17 2018, 03:40 PM
Return to original view | Post
#7
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
10,859 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak |
QUOTE(zeroimpact @ Jul 17 2018, 03:14 PM) Yes, this is the only 2 thing, the civic reverse camera is sufficient to see cars behind, just that there is no beep. since the civic speedometer is already a screen can utilize it also. switch the background to the side for blind spot or how. But i see C-HR implementation only if car nearby in the blind spot then will indicate even when u no signal.Side blind spot is useful, but you would want a 2nd screen like the accord else it will just be annoying that your infotainment switches every time you signal. And I somehow feel if you keep looking at the screen you will tend to lose focus in front |
|
|
Jul 18 2018, 09:00 AM
Return to original view | Post
#8
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
10,859 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak |
i think adaptive cruise control is great for long distance driving but if u plan to use the city smart brake shit so u are able to check ur message and shit, i guess these are better off without.
|
|
|
Jul 18 2018, 10:44 AM
Return to original view | Post
#9
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
10,859 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak |
QUOTE(KnightSports @ Jul 18 2018, 09:47 AM) Adaptive cruise control and SCBS is a different kind of thing. Both serves different purposes. i agreed. i was actually referring them as two diff thing. Adaptive cruise control is good for long distance cruising. However they are not AI based so they dont learn. I saw from review honda sensing for adaptive cruising is kinda nice until when ppl start to cut queue in front the car wont sempat stop. I believe that it may makes ur journey less tiring but if u cannot totally rely on it and u still need to be aware, feels more tiring to me except u dont have to pedal most the time.That is why cruise control can only come on over a certain speed limit and SCBS only works below a certain speed. Majority of the SCBS limitation is because of the capabilities of the system and also the ability to stop the car in time if they put the speeds limits higher. There is no way to guarantee that the system could literally stop in time in the case of someone cutting into your cue at super short distances and things like that as it does not monitor and predict car movements based on "intentions" unlike autonomous cars do. This is one major problem with SCBS as it is only a radar system without the visual trained portion of a complete autonomous system. SCBS is for like crawling traffic so it will crawl for u so u got more time to FB or whatsapp or instag in a traffic jam but also when ppl cut queue definitely not going to pick up right away. But this not a good thing and it is not safe to have because u can do something unsafe on the road. But of course, all of these are definitely a nice to have |
|
|
Jul 18 2018, 11:05 AM
Return to original view | Post
#10
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
10,859 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak |
QUOTE(KnightSports @ Jul 18 2018, 10:54 AM) SCBS as an active safety is to help prevent mishaps. Not meant for abuse like purposely playing phone knowing the car will stop. oh well, alot msian expect that to do so. this is where u can see alot of ppl driving while looking at the phone. And the car salesman also say like that.. thats why i am speechless and i kinda argued with him because my company policy is strict that no handphone while driving. If the person buys an SCBS equipped car and expects to do so. They bought it with all the wrong intentions. Even Elon Musk says Tesla autonomous systems require driver awareness. I don't think any level 5 autonomous driving systems even dare to claim the driver of the car can sleep while the car drives itself or something like that. It is just not possible yet as this systems are "trained" and not completely self aware. They do no learn on their own therefore they do not pass judgement on whatever sensory feedback they have inputted to the system. |
|
|
Jul 18 2018, 12:04 PM
Return to original view | Post
#11
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
10,859 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak |
QUOTE(zeroimpact @ Jul 18 2018, 11:41 AM) I don’t think these system will do any good at this time. People are just not matured enough. yeah.. so at the end of the day, these features are really just "nice to have". I also not comfortable to cruise control now also because it is better to have ur foot readily at pedal than on the floor. that less than 1 second difference can be life saving. and when activate cruise control ur leg need to standby for quick action on pedal makes u even more mentally tiring lol. so i also think the lanewatch blind spot thingy is really essential. they are times that when we do fast lane switching i owes terkejut got motor beside my car when i turn left right to see.The fact that people use their phone while driving, riding on the bike, walking and crossing roads, just shows how mature they are with technology. I love tech, and would love these system in the car, but personally, I would not use even the adaptive cruise control as you will tend to loose focus... and concentration. The only good thing is the left and right blind spot camera. Or the bird eye view. Other than that i don’t see these tech helping in anyway which you could prevent in the first place. |
|
|
Jul 19 2018, 03:41 PM
Return to original view | Post
#12
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
10,859 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak |
QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jul 19 2018, 03:12 PM) At the moment, no exact details known about the upcoming SST. last time punya SST is diffBut with reference from history not too long ago, during GST implementation time, pretty much all car prices dropped abit. Meaning, with SST back, car prices will have a little price uptick. |
|
|
Jul 19 2018, 04:59 PM
Return to original view | IPv6 | Post
#13
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
10,859 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak |
i believe this is the move that pakatan harapan say will reduce car price.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Jul 19 2018, 05:40 PM
Return to original view | IPv6 | Post
#14
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
10,859 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak |
QUOTE(zeroimpact @ Jul 19 2018, 05:11 PM) How do you think the car price will be lower than now which is tax free... cb, this is price reduce already, no? government promise u reduce price, so reduce tax is not reduce price? price no reduce? u previously need pay rm10, now u pay rm8, this not price reduce? u wan look into oh, the cost is same but becos tax no more, like tat? can don sohai pls? They say will reduce PRICE, so by any means la.Unless they reduce airbags, put steel rims, change to Milo tin... Which could reduce another 30k making it 70k And u wan argue about the manufacturer no reduce price, u can see malaysia car price similar to thailand oledi if u bangang never check news for 20yrs. then ppl still wan blame wat government protection policy, where got protect? same like thailand still got protect? last time say car price expensive compare thailand. Now same like thailand, wan compare what? Brunei? fuking malaysian |
|
|
Jul 20 2018, 10:58 PM
Return to original view | IPv6 | Post
#15
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
10,859 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak |
QUOTE(M_Shahrul @ Jul 20 2018, 10:51 PM) Noob here. Im in the middle of saving the money to buy aa... Well, cant tell for sure as both in my mind are Civic or Altis. Which one, any seniors here can give an advice? altis is really cannot make it already in terms of the specs, the design and the tech. U see on the road 100 new civic maybe u only can see 1 FACELIFTED Altis. If u really wan to say less troublemaker, i can say an NA engine can be less troubled but honda is a japan car, the reliability is some where there la. Probably 1.5 turbo FC higher abit or not depends on ur right foot also. If real life experience, really have to ask otai here. I only see from outside and tested drive before and sit in altis before. I can say altis plastic inside is really scrappy koko. Especailly passenger side the door plastic damn... low quality.** Please dont keep saying it's a design as I also know the Civic design is much much better. -- Fuel consumption... Maintenance cost... Pricing... Which is less "troublemaker" and so on... -- Hell yeah in front of me saw an expensive VW Passat suddenly jammed, I believe due to... Somtin like mechatronic box I read. Ergh!! -- Kindly, hope Civic owners / seniors (or anyone with Altis knowledge can come out). p/s: Im a Vios driver by the way. Not a "troublemaker", Vios I can say. NEVER rosak in 7 years already. Never. |
|
|
Jul 20 2018, 11:14 PM
Return to original view | IPv6 | Post
#16
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
10,859 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak |
QUOTE(M_Shahrul @ Jul 20 2018, 11:08 PM) I see. Thanks for the two answers above. Really appreciate that. I kept reading. yup because Civic is classified as EEV car, the tax and duties of the car is already very minimal. Altis forced to drop price to fight with civic but they cant drop much because it is UMW, always screw u up with low spec and less accessories but exorbitant price, lets look at C-HR.COROLLA ALTIS 1.8E: RM110,790.33 ... Civic 1.8S: RM103,534.40 ... What the f**k is this? Civic is CHEAPER than Altis? Seriously shit and hard truth? Im not lying as its in their official website. I just cant brain this and might need some explanation. Plus a 1.8 civic vs it's bigger brother, u get most of the accessories same, not like they take out keyless entry remote start those nice to have features. U only get smaller multimedia screen and fabric instead of leather upholstery. It is pretty interesting if u wanna save money and less perceived unforeseen headache. On the road there are more 1.8 than 1.5 because u dont lose much and u still get a civic |
|
|
Jul 20 2018, 11:58 PM
Return to original view | IPv6 | Post
#17
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
10,859 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak |
QUOTE(M_Shahrul @ Jul 20 2018, 11:20 PM) Aahh... See. Truly great insight, that. I do appreciate your time in replying me. as i said, i am outsider. But i had been eye-ing for 1 before it launch, probably gonna book 1 this year. I'll take it that you ARE the owner of Civic, I guess? And have been driving it for years? Without troubles for sure. |
|
|
Jul 21 2018, 11:36 AM
Return to original view | IPv6 | Post
#18
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
10,859 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak |
aiks honda civic no auto fold mirror when lock? damn i tot this is standard already
|
|
|
Jul 22 2018, 04:30 PM
Return to original view | IPv6 | Post
#19
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
10,859 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak |
QUOTE(Beach_Boy @ Jul 22 2018, 03:54 PM) I charged my car with a ctek charger this morning. The car is only 6 weeks old. I’m quite surprised that the battery has less than 80% in capacity I believe when the car comes with alot electronics definitely car batt wont last. When u start car ur electronics all suck ur batt juice already. Plus normally we practice terus press brake then 1 press start. And i think it is wise to switch off car audio when u start car. That thing draws so much current.So this is perhaps why the battery doesn’t last at all |
|
|
Sep 3 2018, 05:10 PM
Return to original view | IPv6 | Post
#20
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
10,859 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak |
QUOTE(501024 @ Sep 3 2018, 04:35 PM) Sister bought this coz, and i quote "it was cheap and interesting so buy lor". beware this kind if the internal got steel inside, it will scratch the "clip" area. if inside got no steel then should be ok. u can see if the steel is like the internal support, just a thin but rigid one when scratched the car then it will cause crevice corrosion.naturally i curi some to try it out lol. guess its not very obvious on modern steel color. also alrdy saved me a potential chip when my grandma opened the door and hit the steel trolley parking area This post has been edited by ben3003: Sep 3 2018, 05:11 PM |
| Change to: | 0.5004sec
0.73
7 queries
GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 12th December 2025 - 03:31 AM |