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 Official Honda Civic 10th Gen Owner/Fans Club V7, 10th Gen Dream Machine

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post Jan 22 2020, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(Andrew Tan 88 @ Jan 22 2020, 05:31 PM)
what makes your source more reliable than others?
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Up to date didn’t SKL. About my source from where, you check my previous posted.
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post Jan 22 2020, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(hidayat14 @ Jan 22 2020, 05:17 PM)
sounds more reasonable to me, delay due to technical issue. putting the blame to government doesn't hold any water. if government really wants to increase the price then why on honda civic alone? how about altis, supra, bezza, bmw ckd which was released recently.

Good to know they are working on the technical issues.
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Maybe those people think Honda Civic FL launched then become Malaysia number 1 top selling model and brand. All segment. And then other car makers Toyota perodua proton can closed down ready. If not , I really don’t know why they put the blame on government. They don’t even know the procedure.
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post Jan 22 2020, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(hidayat14 @ Jan 22 2020, 07:21 PM)
I spoke to my SA if it is really true the government is sitting on it, holding the price then tell honda malaysia to come out with official statement explaining the situation. No need to bluff me with nonsense.

Reason government want to increase price, honda is fighting for the best price, to protect proton, all doesnt make any sense at all.
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Wow, finally got people also know doesn’t make sense.
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post Jan 22 2020, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(mzack1104 @ Jan 22 2020, 04:49 PM)
none taken bro.. its freedom of speech or to share any info that u had..its forum btw..

I'm quite confident with the picture, you can said its fake or what.. its totally up to u..

u trust ur source, than I put my trust on mine also.. simple as that..

never force anyone to believe..

just share what I know/ heard in here.. and everyone in here can verify with their own source or what ever.

also no offense to u.. icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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None taken bro. Maybe you didn’t go Honda Melaka Plant before that why you confident with the picture. FYI, Honda Melaka Plant didn’t provided training for dealer since 2019. Anyway, your source people telling you, did he went to London last year ? Can you tell me the name ? Then I go tell my source he is small potato, dealer news also more accurate than you.

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post Jan 23 2020, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(smallydupe @ Jan 22 2020, 09:37 PM)
Did I mention anything about FL?
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post Jan 23 2020, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(bo do ch ink @ Jan 23 2020, 12:36 AM)
mr know it all and others are wrong. stfu keenhawk
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Who are you ? Why don’t use own account ? Creating new account against me ? Please continue what you doing.
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post Jan 23 2020, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(mzack1104 @ Jan 23 2020, 11:47 AM)
I'll help u quote from Paultan:

"One of the issues that has been affecting car companies in Malaysia for the past few months is the delayed approval of vehicle pricing, particularly for CKD locally-assembled cars, which has led to certain launches being delayed or estimated pricing being issued in the meantime.
As an example, the Honda HR-V facelift was first previewed in July 2018, but was only officially launched in January 2019. Other models such as the Toyota Rush and Vios, along with the Mazda CX-5 were also introduced with estimated pricing initially.
A more recent case is the Honda Civic facelift, with Honda Malaysia announcing the start of order taking in September 2019, but has yet to officially launch the model. Even new brands appear to be affected by it, such as Borgward, as there is till no official update when it will start its CKD operations."

Source: Paultan
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Paultan is one of the people telling ckd will increase price this year and mention how many %. After that MAA said no increase until 31/12/2020, lim guan Eng said a lot of people get wrong message. Last time I heard from my friend, nowadays a lot of people like to simply share news without proven it first. Haiz...
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post Feb 9 2020, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(sannme98 @ Feb 9 2020, 11:57 AM)
Civic now the same height with new corolla already? Too low for old people?
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No offensive. Old people why buy civic ? And complain too low?
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post Feb 9 2020, 07:30 PM

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Advise for those who want gain HP with remap. The easiest way to gain performance is RON 100 from Petron or Shell V power racing. Remap usually is last stage to modify your car. With stock car remap = waste money. Min modify example intake and exhaust then remap. No such thing after remap = better fuel consumption. Fuel consumption is depend on your leg foot. If you want your horse run faster please give better grass.
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post Feb 9 2020, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(sannme98 @ Feb 9 2020, 08:01 PM)
Not many good cars in this price range smile.gif
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QUOTE(AhBoy~~ @ Feb 9 2020, 08:31 PM)
some young ppl has family members too, once a while fetch them around since civic is a 4 door sedan with trunk and in many other countries just another regular family saloon.  console.gif
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QUOTE(sannme98 @ Feb 9 2020, 10:07 PM)
You're right.
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May I know your good cars definition ? Civic FC is non performance car, is just little bit more powerful than normal car. Old people confirm will suffer when every time go in & out from civic FC.

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post Feb 11 2020, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Feb 10 2020, 01:58 PM)
pump extra RM30/week for vpower racing/ron100, one year already exceed RM1500...

Factory tuning is very conservative (and tuned lazily, because standard tuning for whole region), so got room for optimisation. If done correctly, can improve performance + fuel consumption.
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QUOTE(SackBoy @ Feb 10 2020, 07:42 PM)
+1, there is proper tuning where it is done by stages with proper parts upgrade. Then there's casual optimization for car, not hardcore just slightly better than factory settings. But if you want to go fast number 1 upgrade is still the tyre first.
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Please do more homework. Don’t simply say something causes others people believe you and waste unnecessary money. If you really help people, just give him a ride with your after remap civic fc with stock condition.
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post Feb 11 2020, 12:40 AM

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Factory setting are usually concern on durability, that why more safe mode and best fuel consumption. If too lean causes your engine lifespan drop.

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post Feb 11 2020, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Feb 11 2020, 11:22 AM)
i'm quite taken back....
can elaborate further?
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I think google explain much more detail than me. I straight to the point , stock condition go remap = waste money & damage your car compare to stock tuning. That why I suggest RON 100 or V power racing when you need more power. If you always need more power you always need better petrol. Even you change to GTR or A45 you also need to pump RON 97 and above to get more power. This fact will not change unless you are Tesla.
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post Feb 12 2020, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Feb 12 2020, 11:45 AM)
ron100/v power racing won't give you anything much here because the tuning here is more for lower quality fuel, hence an even more waste of money for pretty much nothing.

Why GTR/A45 state need RON97 or higher? Because it is "TUNED" for that. In fact, you can tuned your very own civic to run best on ron97, WITHOUT sacrificing longevity and have a possible small leg up in fuel consumption.
True, car makes invest lots of money, but they also optimise their cost on  the non crucial stuffs (example : civic infamous touch point issues are one of them that many of the forummers complained about).

I'll use a similar comparison. You buy ps4 tyres, it is rated for speeds above 250km/h. A drives on average 200km/h and you drive average 110km/h. Assuming a smooth infinite journey on a highway, the longevity will likely be the same mileage wise driving on either speeds.

Your engines lifespan, if you don't seek the red line (extreme limits) often, really won't affect that much frankly. And the additional tuning really is mild if you really try to understand further about these kinds of proper piggyback tuning. As you mentioned also, "optimise" level, that means taking into account the crappy fuel quality, insane time of idling, uncountable start/stop traffic jams, to the weekend malaysian F1 drivers, etc. When you optimise, the lowest common denominator will pull the average down. So if you do a PROPER and CORRECT tune, you get the additional benefits, without sacrificing longevity.

Yes warranty is gone. But the terms of warranty here is just so restrictive. Some honda owner from other thread had to pay for the 12v port replacement because of using it with a USB charger...wtf was that??!!
Sounds optimistic, but please consider from a business prospective.

Do you think they will absorb the cost just like that? Really want to make lesser profit/losses on such a high demand product? 2 scenarios :
1) honda malaysia will lower the spec; yeah same car, but lesser features (or worse, lower quality)
2) honda malaysia will/may announce the official sale soon, but assembly/delivery drag later, to reduce the overall volume (to reduce losses). The coronavirus issue will have some impact as some parts will still need to be sourced from China. Next year, price will likely be adjusted; or hoping the government will topple and new policy again. Honda malaysia will be banking on this strategy for a short period only.

It will be a balance of both, temper your excitement.
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DYNO proven that RON 100 vs RON 95 got gain HP.
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post Feb 12 2020, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(jason_tan1980 @ Feb 12 2020, 09:12 AM)
SUV vs Sedan:
More maintenance fee
More Fuel consumption (especially X70, you can see lots of complaint about FC in X70 group/forum)
High ground center, less stable compare to Sedan

but is up to the buyer to decide lah, just my 2 cents~  biggrin.gif  no offense ya~
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I feel XV handling better than Civic FC due to AWD from Subaru.
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post Feb 13 2020, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Feb 12 2020, 02:06 PM)
oh i see.....show me the graphs.....

by the way, dyno numbers recorded at wide open throttle...do you do that while driving normally? And the numbers will definitely not be that much, because the engine not TUNED for high octane. Higher octane fuel also contains slightly better additives that may help in combustion stability and friction reduction, hence the slightly better numbers in dyno. Heck....even doing a dyno at night and the afternoon will show different numbers on RON95 purely due to temperature and humidity differences.....

Anyway, this discussion will go no where, each entitled to their perspective and there is absolutely nothing wrong with staying stock if one so desires.
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Please don’t ask me show you or prove you. I told you earlier, google can explain more detail than me. I give example, same car with same condition 0-100km/h RON100 9.9sec RON95 10.5sec. A lot of people can’t feel the 0.6sec or 3-5hp but they feel very pain because extra RM30-40 per tank. That why you guys said no gaining performance. You guys expected too much, you wish the RON100 can make it 8sec or faster. Most of the time I always use RON95 , but once I pump RON100 full tank with previous almost empty tank, I can feel I has change different car although is same car, just before and after RON100.
Last but no least, Bro no offense you. Just sharing.
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post Feb 14 2020, 02:59 PM

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Wow, mine 2017 November three times. Got people win over me.


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post Feb 14 2020, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(77hunter @ Feb 14 2020, 06:06 PM)
what part is it?
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Steering rack
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post Feb 15 2020, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(77hunter @ Feb 15 2020, 12:23 AM)
Steering rack again! Was waiting for new FL civic. Now it make me doubt. Which service center settled it?
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Every Honda SC can claim warranty for steering rack but you need to inspect first ( 1day ) then confirm and order parts. Wait for few days part arrive then they replace for you( 1 day ). I don’t mind steering rack issue because i closed with Honda Manager, no need to wait for stock, once confirm steering rack direct replace, they will waiting list stock to me first. Please do not ask me which service center and more info about it. Later I don’t want this privilege then susah lo. Booking for inspect also need few days in advanced. I hope those people don’t complain about steering rack after purchase Civic FL. From my understanding it same design same parts.
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post Feb 15 2020, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Feb 14 2020, 08:46 PM)
Finally got SC to take a look at clunking sound from my front right suspension area, turns out a bolt wasn’t tightened enough when they replaced my steering rack a few months ago. What the flying F?! Like this also can. I’ve lost faith in Honda with all these quality issues plaguing their CKD products, even a friend’s BRV got absorber issue only a few months after getting his new car.
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No matter what you say, still a lot of people will pretend don’t know and buy civic. And most funny thing is, later they will come here or Facebook group to complain. Most of the complain example, myvi wira upgrade to civic , previous myvi wira doesn’t have this issue. Battery more than 1 years old also will complain, example lifespan only 14-15months, previous car can get 16-17months. And then buy turbo no money or time go service complain oil life. I don’t know why they use the word upgrade ? Because of more expensive ? Myvi & wira is car king, upgrade to civic ? Or civic is king of the king ? I know Civic is the best, those people will say this because appreciate civic pros more than cons.

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