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post Jul 10 2018, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(KnightSports @ Jul 10 2018, 10:53 AM)
2 piece blank rotors maybe, not slotted rotors

Part of the noise is due to the slotted rotors, the grooves causes some sounds during braking. Squeaking noises from the Endless SS-S pads also not helping.

Initial noise was even worst as the spoon calipers did not come with the pad retention spring clip and the pad was hopping and knocking about all the time within the calipers.

Vibration wise i am not 100% sure. In theory, 2 piece rotors compensates for rotor expansion as the hat and the actual rotors are separate pieces which reduces possibility of stress cracks during heat expansion.
Knightsports ada BBK

http://www.knightsports.co.jp/car/brake_bmaxela/

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I see....so what about those drilled rotors, does it fare better?

Gua tau knightssport ada jual, tapi mahal and a little overkill as i just prefer small 4 pot calipers. Further the knightssport unit not compatible with factory rims, corksport one fare better but need to get complete set. I just want calipers sweat.gif
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post Jul 10 2018, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(KnightSports @ Jul 10 2018, 11:07 AM)
cross drilled?
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I hate it when it cracks

Willwood? I think Driven in Singapore is the distributor
http://www.fastbrakes.com/category_s/99.htm
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I understand about the higher propensity of cracking, but is it really that bad that even will crack under normal driver conditions?

Wilwood is under my consideration, but gotta get someone to customise the calipers mounts though.....
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post Jul 10 2018, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(KnightSports @ Jul 10 2018, 12:08 PM)
Hard to say. It is not about the heat, it is about how rapid the rotors are cooled down when it is hot. Say, for instance you run the car through a deep water puddle when it just went through extended braking efforts. Similar to how rotors will warp, it might cause the holes to crack.

If you are getting the universal calipers from Wilwood. Can get KS brakes to see if they help machine a mount to adapt it to your car and also the hats and rotors to work with it.

The other way is if wilwood has officially produced calipers to direct mount to your BM chassis. If not, they are also able to create calipers if you have the engineering dimensions of your hubs and struts so they could calculate the clearances.

If the same car is available in the US. High chances something were made for it before.
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Thanks for the advice, i'll look into it.

Too bad wilwood don't officially make any kits for the BM at the moment, mostly rx and miata. Maybe another way is to look into the previous MPS kits.

QUOTE(KnightSports @ Jul 10 2018, 12:10 PM)

Dia pandu Mazda la.

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post Jul 11 2018, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(KnightSports @ Jul 10 2018, 02:36 PM)
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post Jul 11 2018, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(KnightSports @ Jul 11 2018, 10:51 AM)
I now know what state you are in.

That narrows the field of search

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wakao.....but tomorrow still never dies though.....

But your aim a little too far north or south, my place no ice lakes tongue.gif

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post Jul 12 2018, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Jul 11 2018, 02:52 PM)
Hey folks, I just changed all 4 donuts just now to Michelin Primacy 3ST (can't wait for Primacy 4). Anyway, just drove back to office which is just a short 8-10km distance. My first feel is that the sound drop a little but not much. Perhaps 20-25%. Dunno why but I felt the civic was quite a quiet car when first drove. Now it seems to be a tad noisy. Anyway, will try out during the weekend or so coz I'm passing the car back to the home minister.
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Your tyres are still new, give it a month or 1000km for the compound to fully settle down. After that, the noise might increase a little bit and the grip improved. This is when you can actually properly compare against the previous tyres.

QUOTE(KnightSports @ Jul 11 2018, 04:33 PM)
India, the land of no rules
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The local mentioned that on india's roads, you need 3 G
1) Good horns
2) Good brake
3) Good luck

I think number 3 should consist 90% when you're on the road....
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post Jul 13 2018, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(Asus @ Jul 13 2018, 11:48 AM)
can we just cabut the battery on our key to settle this issue? its a hassle la everytime to do it..
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No don't risk it. There are certain brand modules that will totally lose their security signal after loosing power for about a minute. By then, even after fitting back the battery, the key fob essentially becomes a blank one and need to reprogramme to your car's signal.

Not all keyfobs are like that as the modules are made by different manufacturers, but i know some will really lose the signal after slightly prolong duration in changing the batteries.

QUOTE(Alternation @ Jul 13 2018, 02:21 PM)
The cheapest alternative is to use aluminium foil to cover ur key fob. If it starts leaking rf, make a new one. Our civic key fob only emits rf above the lock button. So just make a sleeve where u can pull the fob in or out easily will do.
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Unless you wrap it until it becomes a sizeable ball, the signal will still leak out (albeit somehow weakened).

You need a proper product that conforms to the faraday cage concept, where (strangely) the distance between the gaps of the wires messes up with the transmission of the signal.

And even with such a product, many people just hastily just drop it in the compartment without properly understanding the procedure of sealing the overlap (which is required to completely prevent the signal leaking).

QUOTE(RichardN @ Jul 13 2018, 02:35 PM)
I wonder those Mentos candy with aluminium tin can block the same or not... If can, just repaint it to the colour of your liking
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Nope it won't, just weaken the signal slightly.
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post Jul 13 2018, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(KnightSports @ Jul 13 2018, 05:16 PM)
The world is so complicated. Convenience but then have to inconvenience yourself because of the side effects of that inconvenience
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1st world problems....

hmmmm......best buy korean karz biggrin.gif tongue.gif rclxm9.gif

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post Jul 16 2018, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Alternation @ Jul 14 2018, 12:35 AM)
I've tried aluminium foil. Making it a 2 layered sleeve with exposed bottom for easier fob slide in and out. I hold it next to the handle and the door wont open. Even if you press the buttons standing next to the car, the rf will be completely blocked. I dont think any device can even pickup the fob even if it really does leak rf. But prolong usage means there will be wear and tear. So better to make new ones when its compromised.
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Great that you find it working. But you're getting a little paranoid in this. Harsh for me to say this, but if you did consider this so, you shouldn't have bought such a high risk model/brand in the first place. Anyway, i'm sprouting irrelevant crap....

Anyway, the most effective way in my opinion is just get a wheel lock or clamp, that is a real turn off to majority of thieves.

Another more invasive but elegant way is to get an experienced mechanic who knows how to put a hidden kill switch to the fuel distributor/pump. I've tried a car like that, engine will stall within a minute of idling if didn't deactivate it.

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post Jul 16 2018, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(RichardN @ Jul 16 2018, 11:46 AM)
Hahaha... well installing KILL switch is too overkill no?

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There's no such a concept of overkill for those that are paranoid about security and safety (just see what happens when the US president comes visiting, freaking mayhem)....

But the kill switch is elegant because you can hide the switch practically any accessible interior surface of the car (or even install dummy switches to fool potential perpetrators). And it works silently.

If someone car jacks you, while you just unlocked your car, you can just handover the car and run into a corner to silently watch the hilarity that ensues. On the other hand, if perpetrators carjacks you after you deactivate the killswitch, just let them have the car because it will definitely stall the next time they restart the car.
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post Jul 16 2018, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(KnightSports @ Jul 16 2018, 12:25 PM)
Boleh pakai ke? Can still run is a bit scary for me. You don't want to starve the engine of fuel, nanti to lean and your pistons and valves melt.

If it totally cannot start, i am still OK.
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I don't think it will go to that extent of melting piston/valve. If you say scared that your injector/fuel pump might rosak, that maybe higher possibility.

I don't exactly know the mechanism of the kill switch. When i was there to try it out (someone else' car, not mine), without deactivating the kill switch, the car will just idle like normally for about 20 seconds, then start "coughing", and less than 10 seconds later, the engine stalled. After that, the owner press a secret switch, it restarts like normal again.

So my guess is, if the perpetrator start the car, he/she would likely only manage half press the pedal to start accelerating the car off, the fuel supply cut off even faster. So, in a parked setting, i hazard guess that the car won't manage to go any further than 200m away from the parked slot.

Another theory i of that mechanism is some voodoo magic on the electrical supply relating to the car startup process.

QUOTE(KnightSports @ Jul 16 2018, 12:32 PM)
This is the only number plate i am interested in
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QUOTE(zeroimpact @ Jul 16 2018, 01:14 PM)
Normally kill switch will lock the fuel pump so no fuel will go in even to start the engine. Been having that for the last 8 years.
It will crank but it will not start. Giving it a false picture you have engine problem or no fuel in the car
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oh.....you know this security system.

Please enlighten us with details please smile.gif
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post Jul 16 2018, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(zeroimpact @ Jul 16 2018, 02:21 PM)
I don’t have much details, but my persona is having that... since 8 years ago, and my previous waja about 13 years ago
Can’t recall for the waja but the persona is as below
I believe it is targeting the fuel injection. So you splice the wire giving power to it and add a switch.
When turn off, the engine will crank, but it will not start.
Even the check engine light will not light up.
When turn on, then it will start.

But for the newer cars like fc according to my mechanic, is using cambus technology or some sort, he say cannot splice any cable. Once splice check engine light will come up.
He is an electrical engineer guy so he knows what he is talking about.

So his advice is to not touch any electrical stuff, reverse camera where you tap another cable to reverse light to trigger it is ok as it does not take heavy load. Else should avoid where ever possible.
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Eh....i thought as long as the car has OBD port, it is already some sort of CANBUS format already??!!

The car that i tried this security feature on was a 2004 E130 corolla altis.

QUOTE(KnightSports @ Jul 16 2018, 02:25 PM)
That is some high tech shit there. Maybe can ask him to cut the starter next time. Then can sell it as an anti-theft solution.

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whoa.....cut the starter procedure at software level is kinda crazy.....

My idea is somehow to modify the throttle position sensor/signal, whereby if the kill switch is not deactivated, no matter how far you depress the throttle, the ECU will not register because the signal blocked/interrupted. It shouldn't interrupt the startup process at all and will not show check engine light. So that means the car will just continue idling blindly and the perpetrator will be damn baffled the car just won't respond to the throttle pedal.

But then, the car will continue at crawl mode if engage gear. And based on my experience, the crawl mode of CVT can go quite fast to almost 30km/h. Incomplete solution.... confused.gif confused.gif

I guess this is not that hard to achieve as there are so many e-throttle booster boxes. Even this civic fc has a throttle booster product now :
https://www.mudah.my/5+Drive+Potent+Booster...17-60391469.htm

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post Jul 17 2018, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(KnightSports @ Jul 16 2018, 05:43 PM)
I already on 18 and the wheel arch gap makes my wheels look small as well.
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QUOTE(KnightSports @ Jul 16 2018, 05:49 PM)
Too much poison today
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You need super slam dunk setting that only can achieved with air suspension :
https://www.airliftperformance.com/

When bad mood, slam it fully down to calm your nerves and bring back your smile as the fender gap totally disappears as the car farts off the air in the bladder.

Doubles as a security measure when fully deflated. Can hide the lift button somewhere as a "killswitch" icon_idea.gif brows.gif

QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Jul 16 2018, 07:39 PM)
Also not sure if anyone noticed but all the stolen Civics lately are all white color, is it because it's easier to spray paint over it? Mine is modern steel metallic... not sure I want to go through the trouble of installing a pedal lock because someone mentioned if accident or something and accidentally locked the pedal or it fly out and cucuk = icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Jul 16 2018, 09:46 PM)
Seriously all the report of stolen Civics I've seen are all white color ones bye.gif
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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Jul 17 2018, 09:38 AM)
And these are the high profile ones that we know of. And they're all white blink.gif
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Somebody, please give this boy here some ice cold beer, and ice bath.

Chill dude...chill....malaysia doesn't have the best when comes to security but it isn't lawless to the point like south america lar....

This is just a car.....The medical bills you rack up from all the stress induced illness cost you more than the car itself on the longer run....

Get yourself gap insurance lah.....it will cover the difference between market value and actual car replacement value. If car got stolen/totaled, almost like 1 to 1 exchange for a new same car....

Or just paint your car red....

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jul 17 2018, 11:57 AM)
ohh okok..so still can absorb much of the uneven road and bump la..  but takut the lower arm suspension not so tahan lo.. maybe they wan go for mass market.. and last time FB punya tire noise very prominent inside the car also. i sit my fren hybrid CBU civic very noisy the road noise even car 2-3yrs only.  i just hope it can travel 100-120km/h with decent amount of comfy level. cos maybe later need a car i can travel weekly 2hours long distance at sarawak road  sweat.gif sweat.gif kinda like this mazda adaptive LED lighting.. but no such thing at honda civic sad.gif
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Huh??? Lower arm tak tahan??!! Can last 300k km unless you really hit some deep holes lar.....the bushings won't though, change after 80-100k km....

Just get any car, forget about the soundproofing on the cars. It won't cost you more than 10 bucks on this mod to give you a serene journey :
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Effects can be better than in a rolls royce

QUOTE(Beach_Boy @ Jul 17 2018, 12:00 PM)
but damn comfy la, strap my dotter into the child seat and she sleeps within couple of minutes into the journey
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Nope, it is the rocking motion of the suspension and tyre roar background noise that sooth them to sleep...

Because the same thing happens to both my little fellors on the (purportedly) noisiest car in this segment, the mazda3 tongue.gif

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post Jul 18 2018, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(wangpr @ Jul 17 2018, 04:16 PM)
Hahaha.. but tomorrow only can fully confirmation.......After she confirm with manager first....

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Ini macam....that means your SA girl "curi" someone's allocated car??

QUOTE(KnightSports @ Jul 17 2018, 04:59 PM)
You know the saying about women wearing tudung should not drive because they cannot hear cars coming from behind?

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This joke made my day biggrin.gif

But hor, my previous workplace got one tudung lady driving manual, some more rev matching.....how can she not hear a thing to achieve that??!!

QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Jul 17 2018, 05:56 PM)
Aiyo all this talk about security and theft damn depressing, changing topics lol. Does anyone know if fuel economy is supposed to be sh** the first 1000km or something? SA pumped full tank for me when I took car, and my estimated total mileage is only about 420km prorated from what's left in the tank now... Penang traffic, so lots of stop and go, but 420km is pretty bad eh
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The internal components need time "to get to know each other closer", it usually will stabalise after the first oil change.

QUOTE(KnightSports @ Jul 17 2018, 06:31 PM)
Pedal to the metal always feel good

But, when come to
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I like cruise control... I friggin like it
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I ACTUALLY CAN'T BELIEVE YOU ACTUALLY SAID THIS mega_shok.gif

Apply maybank petronas ikhwan visa card, 8% cash back on petronas on weekends. Free for life annual fee.....i save at least RM20 per month just on petrol cash back.

QUOTE(KnightSports @ Jul 17 2018, 10:11 PM)
That is for you to put tissue close by to your driver seat because you will cry every time you get into the car and be reminded that Honda Malaysia con you of some features.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jul 18 2018, 10:44 AM)
SCBS is for like crawling traffic so it will crawl for u so u got more time to FB or whatsapp or instag in a traffic jam...
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You should take a bus/MRT/LRT/monorail, you can have all the time to FB/whatsapp/insta.....
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QUOTE(gzavincent @ Jul 18 2018, 11:03 AM)
Any Honda SA here? I wanted to place order for Civic 1.5TC.
Went a few showrooms, they dont accept order now till Sept. i dont mind waiting, just want to place order first
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...442282&hl=honda
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...045049&hl=honda
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...220763&hl=honda
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...224763&hl=honda

QUOTE(wangpr @ Jul 18 2018, 11:16 AM)
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Maybe got ruby red car come jor, since i am first in line..... other colour had to wait for their turn lor....

Only few colour got a long waiting list....

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oh red colour har.....that colour very few takers......

I like though thumbsup.gif

QUOTE(KnightSports @ Jul 18 2018, 11:30 AM)
U know?

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jul 18 2018, 12:04 PM)
yeah.. so at the end of the day, these features are really just "nice to have". I also not comfortable to cruise control now also because it is better to have ur foot readily at pedal than on the floor. that less than 1 second difference can be life saving. and when activate cruise control ur leg need to standby for quick action on pedal makes u even more mentally tiring lol. so i also think the lanewatch blind spot thingy is really essential. they are times that when we do fast lane switching i owes terkejut got motor beside my car when i turn left right to see.
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QUOTE(KnightSports @ Jul 18 2018, 12:08 PM)
Always have your legs near the pedal.

Motorbikes in KL is now you see me, now you don't

Their advance methods of ciloking is beyond even what Tesla can predict
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Automatic transmission drivers should always learn to left foot brake whistling.gif

Not necessarily for the added advantage during trail braking but to avoid wrong pedal fiasco in car/people dense areas (that are usually slow moving traffic condition).
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QUOTE(Hellmuth @ Jul 19 2018, 09:54 AM)
well, he did mentioned his FC is 13km/l for KL-JB

thats below average

i've been driving 140-150 with constant revving on highway and i still gotten 15-16 km/l
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There are other factors to look at friend :
- what was the average ambient temperature (day/night/cool overcast/hot afternoon)
- tyre pressure (i almost eked out 5% more mileage when i added additional 20kpa into my tyres from my vios days)
- stock tyres or changed to preferred tyres
- any mods applied
- how much cargo, junk, passengers on board
- traffic condition
- method of measure (using trip computer or actual pump and measure method)

Even the engine oil you selected also play a part. It is a combination of factors and not clear cut yours bad mine better kind of conclusion just from the surface of things...
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QUOTE(requad @ Jul 19 2018, 02:48 PM)
just read about the CKD car is exempted from SST in another thread.
does that mean the civic that is assemble in melaka plant will be SST free ?

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At the moment, no exact details known about the upcoming SST.

But with reference from history not too long ago, during GST implementation time, pretty much all car prices dropped abit. Meaning, with SST back, car prices will have a little price uptick.

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