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 Official Honda Civic 10th Gen Owner/Fans Club V7, 10th Gen Dream Machine

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post Dec 31 2020, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(neuromancerx @ Dec 31 2020, 10:52 AM)
Changed my tyre to Ps4 last week at Oscar. RM524/pc. 225/45/18.
Tempted to try Hankook Prime 3, RM286/pc but maybe next time.
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U got the best tyres already, ps4. Unless the Hankook is v12 Evo2, it almost similar performance as ps4. Rest Hankook tyre is normal but best bang for money
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post Dec 31 2020, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(SiewLee30 @ Dec 31 2020, 01:00 PM)
Yeah middle aircond panel lol. Did your sc managed to fix it? Or you don't bother with the rattling
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I can tell u a bad news. Sc will put remark refit, reinstall and recheck for rattling : done. But it turn out right after left the sc. Complaints again, sc said nothing can done as it pass Factory/ production QC.
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post Dec 31 2020, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(SiewLee30 @ Dec 31 2020, 01:09 PM)
Damn. I wonder if we should lodge tribunal report to teach these noobs a real QC.  If keep saying pass QC definitely will getting worsen in the future
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My suggestion try other sc as well. Some sc had better technician to try repair it. Might as well resolve or reduce the rattling. Done my rattling repair at dashboard/gear lever area of my accord at Global Amity Bangi.

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QUOTE(neuromancerx @ Dec 31 2020, 02:32 PM)
Actually i made some online research comparing ps4, primacy and prime. In brief for overall performance, the ranking is ps4 at the top, then followed by prime. Primacy is ranked lower below prime.
When i was at oscar, i asked them to show me both ps4 and prime and i did my visual inspection such as sidewall information and thread pattern. As expected, prime's sidewall is lacking some material compared to ps4 but that is expected. But the thread and drain design is pretty much similar. In the end i just opted for ps4 because it is still within my budget and i want to experience it fitted in my FC. That is why i will change to prime for next set of tyre so that i can feel the differences.

We all know that v12 is no longer in production and replaced with prime (K125). For my prev car i managed to use 1 set of ps3 and 3 sets of v12 evo v2 and i still remembered the price going down from rm525 to rm300 ish for v12 (225/45/18).
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What i notice, ps4 come with traction AA while primacy with traction A. People that I know who use primacy are one priority for comfort and tyre sound, it is better in this aspect vs ps4. No idea for prime.

Hence u can see most Primacy user are Camry, 5 series, E Class and Velfire.

Ps4 mainly for performance. PS4S is better performance but start with 19".

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Dec 31 2020, 02:16 PM)
Guys, may i know what is the mileage ur MC5 tyre can last? Able to hit 80k?
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Generally around 60k - 80k km is time to change tyre. But most importantly to check if the center tyre marker/indicator already hit to ensure that the sign to replace it
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QUOTE(luvox @ Dec 31 2020, 03:24 PM)
How u check price n bought ur tyre from oscar? Which number u contact? The watsapp number ignore my msg most of time n wont give me price if no stock for the asked tyre
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0122323210 this no. I usually ask this oscar shop to quotes price b4 went there. Ask what other model options and price for my size etc
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Dec 31 2020, 02:54 PM)
If there is no crack, and its still far from the indicator, meaning the tyre is still usable right? Even if the tyre is already 4 years plus.

Any suggestion what tyre that can perform better than mc5 besides ps4?
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I would suggest to change max at 2 years or plus. Because if it more, the rubber will harden and no grip eventhough u still get thread.

My usually guidance on tyre selection is Traction AA rating instead of A only. Most of tyres r with Traction A as per your Mc5. Mc6 come with Traction AA. But from review fb car user, the Mc6 was great on dry but so so on wet, hence ps4 is my suggestion if u looking for great traction on both conditions
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QUOTE(Jitty @ Jan 5 2021, 03:33 PM)
Good afternoon all sifu.

today i send my civic to Service center to service my car.

recently my car engine is a bit noisy.

after checking, my SA tell me that CIVIC auto tensional got problem and need about Rm 1300 to service.

What you guys think ya?

a bit costly.
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I think this is more famous for HRV model. Many change it outside and lot2 cheaper than SC, iinm rm300-400 for parts tensioner, maybe rm150-200 for installation.

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QUOTE(yt.c1128 @ Jan 6 2021, 10:57 AM)
Hi there, I had the same dilemma and here is my 2 cents. Over the course of 1-2 years I test drove the Civic TCP and Mazda 3 five times each, and the Corolla three times. I have put ~3500km in my Civic TCP since I got it 2 months ago, and have done about 300km in the Mazda 3 High over the course of 3 days (driving from KL Malacca, around Malacca and back). I placed bookings for both the Civic and the Mazda 3 High Plus (Hatch), and ended up going for the Civic. The CX-30 is practically a Mazda 3 with a slightly higher ride-height, so I am going to use them interchangeably here.

TLDR, for practicality and straight line performance, get the Civic. For refinement, handling and exclusivity, get the Mazda. My advice would be to test drive them several times.

Looks and exclusivity
These are very subjective, so I shall keep it short. Think of the CX-30 as an exotic beauty and the Civic as a conventional beauty. Personally, I have always thought the FC as the perfect blend of conventional beauty and futuristic styling, with its chiseled, low slung body and crab-claw rear lights. The CX-30, looks like a Ferrari FF from the rear, but even more beautiful. The lights, front and rear are just perfect while the body panels have just the right curves. Note that the Mazda 3/CX-30 is not everybody's cup of tea, hence, exotic. Since you are asking, I assume it's grown on you. One thing I despise about the CX-30 is the body cladding, but I am not sure how much better or worse it would look without it.

Refinement, ride-comfort and in car entertainment
I would say that going over bumps and lousier roads, the Civic actually has quite a comfortable ride given its lower profile, sportier tires (TCP variant). However for overall refinement, NVH, comfort and just feeling better after a long ass drive, the Mazda wins. The plushness of the interior, the bang on driving position and the more generous use of sound proofing helps the Mazda inch ahead here. In terms of in car entertainment, I'm no audiophile so the Civic's one is acceptable to me, but the general consensus is that the Mazda's sound system (hands-down better bass), that whatever-inch display and the BMW-esque swivel wheel wins. I see the only aspect where the Civic wins is the ability to use touch screen for their in car entertainment. Mazda will argue that its for safety, etc etc, but seriously, why do I need to swivel and click several times just to move 2 screens, when I can practically double tap a touch screen?! One thing to note about the Mazda 3 (and probably also the CX-30) is that because of the smaller windows, you get less light into the cabin, and it does not help that the entire cabin in the Mazda 3 is black AF.

Note that if I could pinpoint things that made me choose the Civic over the Mazda, some of them would be the high-end sound system and 2-tone interior (or the lack thereof). Yes, the Mazda is CBU, but for the price I am paying, I would expect the Bose sound system and/or the velvet/burgundy and black interior, both of which are available in the highest variant in every other country. Unfortunately, these are not even available here as an option (yes, the CX-30 has a lame 2-tone dark brown/black interior).

The build quality of the Mazda just feels more solid and there are no squeaks. Some parts of the Civic feels "flimsy" and you do occasionally hear some background music (from the car), but I am lucky that my car GENERALLY does not have any interior build issues unless I am nit-picking. Do note that having trawled the Civic and Mazda 3 forums, FB page and youtube reviews (both local and US, UK) for close to 2 years, it would appear that there are generally more complains about the Civic's build quality.

Practicality
Boot space comparable to D or E-segment cars, buttons everywhere for simplicity, plenty of spots to put your mobile phones, hand sanitiser, sun glasses, etc etc etc etc etc etc. Ample headroom and legroom for the rear passenger, and more importantly the driver - Civic wins again. The bang-on driving position of the Mazda is also snug, and snug can be a good or bad thing. In the rear, yeah forget about ever sitting up straight, comfortably if you are close to 180cm or taller in the Mazda. As someone who chucks lots of stuff in his car, the boot space in the Civic is great. Coming from a 2012 Vios, where I sometimes struggle to fit everything in its boot, the Mazda just did not cut it for me in terms of practicality.

Performance and Handling
In terms of how good the body of the car is, I'd say the best is Corolla (yeap, not the Mazda nor the Civic), by a mile. The Corolla just feels like it can handle so much more performance and it is very stable around the corners. The Mazda feels a lot more composed than the Civic over corners, but the Civic feels like it has way more grip (probably because of the tires). If you like spirited driving, really depends on whether you prefer GVC kicking in to help with stability around the corner, or just tearing through it with more grip in the Civic. Between the Mazda and the Civic I'd say the Mazda has a more "stable feel" around corners.

For performance, the Civic is plenty fast if you are not coming from a turbocharged 2.0L German car. The Mazda however gives you more joy in the sense that you have to wind the piss out of the engine to get its mediocre performance. Part of the fun is revving it all the way up. Both cars have gearboxes that suit the characteristics of the car.

Fuel economy and "value"
The Mazda is very fuel efficient. The Civic, not so much especially if you are heavy-footed.

Value will depend on how far you can quantify all the aspects (including the above) of the car for your own circumstances. Heck, if you are able to live with more regular maintenance, have a trustworthy mechanic and can source your parts, even a used German car might have more "value". I ultimately did not see the value in the Mazda, relative to the Civic. However, different strokes for different folks. If after test-driving the cars and consulting your other stakeholders, the Mazda is the one for you then pull the trigger.

FYI, go to Youtube and check out Savagegeese. Watch his videos on the Civic and Mazda 3. You will get a more detailed idea of what you are paying for. He is one of the best youtube car reviewers out there, because he actually goes into the detail (audio graphs, puts the car on the lift to see what's underneath, talks about the power train, etc).
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I do watch mazda 3 review from Savagegeese. Kindly note that the US come with 2.5 NA engine while us 2.0. One thing different is Bermaz do remove the Bose speakers sound for our market while rest do get it. That is why u see he is reviewed the sound/audio graph for mazda 3 review.

But nevertheless, I found Honda fit & finish is hit and miss, similar like last time Proton. I compare it from my Accord and bro in law cx5. It's like miles better and less gap in Mazda especially between bumper and car body. NVH also better in Mazda than Honda from what I felt.

For FC, as I noticed, NA won over Turbo. Combined drive NA fc lesser than Turbo where really need to gentle on right leg or do a constant speed at highway in order to yield great fc for turbo engine, for this case civic

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QUOTE(neuromancerx @ Jan 8 2021, 11:19 AM)
I owned pre-FL TC-P, maybe i'm one of lucky owner, i don't have so much issues with it (steering rack, fuel pump, air cond evap), well except the infamous body panel gap which is standard across the globe. I choose ketam simply because it's 130k vs 170k optima GT, again is unfair comparison as the GT is direct rival to accord on the same segment. Elantra and Altis were not in my list, the closest option was Mazda 3 and i opted ketam because of the power (turbo, torque), space and modern interior.
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The body panel gap is famous for Malacca factory made iinm. It like the quality is worst and they never improve it. Was noted from 8th gen Accord until all model now, Civic, HRV and rest.

Then they react similar like Proton back then when report at SC. No solution can be done via SC for body gap.

Hopefully Honda can improve their quality especially ckd Malacca made one eventhough I dont believe it will done in near future
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QUOTE(Jitty @ Jan 12 2021, 07:38 AM)
Hi all sifus here, anyone tried to do soundproof to civic fc?
How was it?
Obvious or not the vibration reduction & effect.
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From my officemates car who done this, yes it reduce slightly by sound insulation especially on tyre area, roof and floor. But for price factor, it does not worth it as spend closed to rm4k but improve slightly on nvh.

Almost all who had done soundproofing on car will recommend to better take a car which had great nvh from factory instead in future

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QUOTE(Jitty @ Jan 13 2021, 12:15 PM)
Hi guys, i send my car to puchong SC and PJ Sc trying to fix my back right side rattling sound problem.

Both of the SC cant find the problem.

i then send my car to a car accessories shop (LAYANG) and paid RM 50 to do checking. They cant find the problem too.

They cant find the problem too. But the rattling sound is getting louder and louder and it is very irritating.
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When my accord had rattling at gear lever, the last sc that resolved it was Global Amity Bangi. Suggest u go there if possible.
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QUOTE(Old1030 @ Jan 27 2021, 08:30 AM)
its like screen protector for your phone, but this is on your car

its start with to protect helicopter blade, then the tech evolves to car
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Interesting to know for heli parts. Never know about this
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QUOTE(rayz85 @ Feb 3 2021, 11:08 AM)
Anyone here has aftermarket cold air intake installed? How does it affect the warranty?
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Even with aftermarket rim effect warranty for honda sc
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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Feb 3 2021, 07:43 PM)
Previously many people change oil outside, those were the days when only 3 free service was given ie 1,5 & 10k. Warranty was given as long you are able to show proof of servicing.
But service centers came and car manufacturers started to give longer warranty period, some with free service. This started the culture that if you don’t service your car there, warranty is void.
But please read carefully, there is no mention of this policy in the warranty form, because it is not allowed by law, the only written rule is genuine parts must be used.

SC are getting more and more greedy to force people to service there due to profits, and simply void peoples warranty.

I was once told by SC that if I don’t do alignment and balancing in SC, my whole car warranty will be void. I told the SA to write down officially and he got scared, asked his supervisor to come and accepted it is optional.
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I hate this type of SA. Maybe he was pushed to get more income for the sc. I remember some SA push me to get those honda fuel cleaner as he told malaysia fuel is dirty.

I said out of 100k km running, not even once my car had misfire etc. I ask him to print pictures of carbon deposit in my car then i will buy it. No action.

At the end when pickup key, i told all fuel brand in malaysia had additive on it by law.
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QUOTE(DragonK @ Feb 7 2021, 09:51 PM)
guys, any good suggestion for tint film currently im thinking about 3M but im not sure which film i should get
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Get a Ceramic based tint instead of Metallic based. Some car had gps issues with metallic based tint
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QUOTE(haroldz123 @ Feb 12 2021, 08:00 AM)
Buy car this calibre but drive like uncle?

Manyak rugi ooo

It is a defective design if steering rack always need to be replaced
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Hopefully there is an after market for steering rack after this. Most honda parts quality heading worst especially after they made it in Thailand/ Malaysia, example brakepad.

I resolved my accord 3 times driveshaft leaking under warranty by ask outside workshop to install one for me the 4th time. They said it is a made in japan parts. So far almost a year still ok

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QUOTE(MNF0 @ Feb 13 2021, 03:30 AM)
Thanks for the reply. I'm sorry for you mate. Hope Honda will successfully rectify issues with your ride.
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Problems mainly due to parts itself. Lose hope with their qc of parts. Similar when get stretching/juddering brake disc issue which due to poor quality brakepad by honda, but cost rm700 per pair.

Fed up complaining to them, now settled with aftermarket brakepad

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QUOTE(M_Shahrul @ Feb 13 2021, 08:28 AM)
In your own personal opinion, do you think they are taking customer for a ride? Just asking though.

Yeah I am driving Civic right now too, but personally I feel Toyota did treat customer nicely, after 9 years servicing a Vios and dealing with their technician.

Please, no doubt, Civic is a nice, beautiful and gorgeous car. I love my Civic right now, driving her is such a pleasure.
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I think it is. In my point towards brake pad, it had happened since previous 2 gen accord, since 8th gen, and it keep repeating the problem. Based on my previous experience, it because of the parts itself. And surprisingly no more issues after i change to aftermarket parts.

And also to my driveshaft, claim it 3 times under warranty. Now with aftermarket, resolve so far.

If this way of Honda, I doubt they will improve drastically since their sales is high.
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QUOTE(hybirdsin @ Feb 21 2021, 01:15 PM)
If you're talking about changing cabin filter outside of Honda service center, I was told by my service center that if you change it at 3rd party outlets and something goes wrong with the venting, then the warranty of the vent system will be void.
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Typical honda, even aftermarket rim get effect on warranty claim. Some sa even ask car owner to get back stoke rim when claim warranty

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