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LegendLee
post Oct 2 2017, 07:35 AM

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Does your narrative video have any
1. Interview shots.
2. Close up shots.

If yes. Get the slider + pan head.
Gimbal is great for dynamic shots but for relatively static shots, it's a bit hard.

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post Oct 2 2017, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(eternaly @ Oct 2 2017, 08:06 AM)
Hi, thanks for reply. =)
Yes, I'm totally agree with you!
Maybe I'm being to greedy that I thought I can perform nice movement through gimbal.
But like what you said, even a slight shakiness could be disturbing and destroy the whole scene.

Guess I'm gonna get a slider+pan head first.
do you mind if I ask you extra question?

Will you further improve your picture first or audio first? If there is only one choice can be pick at the moment?
My dilemma is 55-210mm vs zoom h1.
the tele lens is for better camera shooting distance for mid and close up. (Coz currently the longest I can go is 50mm, I need to place my camera really close even for a mid shot)
The zoom h1 provides lesser hiss noise and enriched the boldness of vocal. It is more pleasant to hear compare to camera's.
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Audio.
And get a lav mic if you do interviews/have someone talking. You can hook the lav to your zoom h1 directly. And then sync ur video separately.

It wouldn't be that expensive. As for lav. There are many expensive ones but also many affordable ones. I recommend giant squid mic on amazon.its like 40usd? .Better than sub rm150 lavs. Those 30 usd audio technically lav is bad. Cable too long. Susceptible to interference.



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post Oct 3 2017, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(eternaly @ Oct 3 2017, 01:34 PM)
I have a lav mic already, guess I'm not gonna get another one =)
I just bought a zoom h1. Dang! The different is so huge!
Was thinking to buy 55-210 at first, but out of stock. =p
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I believe your lav mic is not a wireless mic right?
So before this, you've to hook the mic directly to ur cam ?

Now you can hook it to the zoom h1
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post Oct 3 2017, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(eternaly @ Oct 3 2017, 07:20 PM)
Nope. It s a normal line in lav.
I believe I have solved the "hiss" sound problem during recording. Coz a6300 can't monitor the audio, kinda lack of control before this.

But I'm curious. I know a solo production is pretty tough, do you really use lav to record dialogue in a control shot? Instead of shotgun mic?
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I find myself using a lav way more frequently than a shotgun. Although I'll still have a shotgun hooked on my cam to capture clearer audio to sync or in worst case scenario... as a backup.

A regular lav will always be better (if placed properly) compared to a shotgun on your camera.
Unless you've a person with a boom holding it directly above the person speaking, a shotgun will still get background noise.

I've a rode ntg2 shotgun mic and without someone actively monitoring and adjusting, the lavalier is better.

The only problem with a lav is that you're limited to capturing the audio of one person at a time. If you want to capture 2 person, you need 2 sets.
Also, unless you've a wireless lav, it's hard to monitor. Without monitoring, your lav can come detached, it can spoil or the memory can be corrupted. All of which has occurred to me before.

Solution is to get a reliable wireless lav(not cheap) or use multiple lavs on a person.(as backup).
Before I switch to wireless, i was using 3 zoom h1 connected to 3 lav Mics.

But ultimately, it depends what you're shooting for.
If I'm shooting for a blog or myself. A rode shotgun mic on my camera is far more than enough. Esp if whoever's talking is within 1m of the camera.
But if you want to offer video as a service, sound is crucial and any hissing/unwanted background sound is a huge turn off.

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post Oct 4 2017, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(eternaly @ Oct 4 2017, 11:55 AM)
Im owning a Sony ECM-CG50 Shotgun mic. to be honest, I think its quality is bad compare to Rode.
With same distance, The H1 built in mic and Lav mic could produce better audio quality compare to Sony mic. =/
I will do more test about that. but overall, I feel kinda lack of confident with Sony mic performance.

You are right. The hissing and background noise is like a slap on your face if you are offering your service.
for me, my pride will be humiliated if I present such outcome. It's actually kinda disturbing.

I just tested The zoom H1 with Sony CG50 this morning. Here is the link : https://youtu.be/fnwvpIq0ZMM
If I have enough time and patient, I think I will be using a lav to go as close as I can to pick up the audio instead of shotgun mic. =P

Are you using Sony camera too bro?
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It depends what you're shooting. If it's vlog style, the rode shotgun mic will be more than enough. Casey netistat uses a videomic pro.

I'm primarily a canon shooter.


 

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