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post Oct 17 2018, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(jence @ Sep 5 2018, 06:20 PM)
Hi, I just happen to see this post. I’ve recently bought a storage heater. Can I use chrome hose for the hand shower ? Thanks!
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Chrome or anything conductive should be avoided. If there is short is heater body, the electricity will travel through the hose to your body. Even though the heater is grounded and the power should trip, but you do not want to take unnecessary risk.
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post Oct 17 2018, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(kirakun @ Oct 17 2018, 02:53 PM)
Water heater wiring is left hanging from the ceiling in designated toilets. Typical for all housing and residential development. The wiring will be connected to a 13A power switch on the outer wall though. Any electrician or water heater installer will know how to connect and install the water heater accordingly.
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Yeah. Just that my bro's apartment has a socket outlet for the water heater to be connected to even though there already is a switch for the water heater outside the bathroom. Anyway, all good. Everything was clarified and fixed accordingly by electrician. No worries.
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post Oct 17 2018, 05:03 PM


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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Oct 17 2018, 02:46 PM)
It's ok, got it done already. As mentioned in my post, the water heater wiring just comes from the ceiling with no socket outlet there. Just mentioned it's similar to what's in the picture but the cables are different. So was just wondering what was the best and safest way to do it.
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Direct connect to the terminal block in water heater.
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post Oct 17 2018, 05:04 PM


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QUOTE(kirakun @ Oct 17 2018, 02:53 PM)
Water heater wiring is left hanging from the ceiling in designated toilets. Typical for all housing and residential development. The wiring will be connected to a 13A power switch on the outer wall though. Any electrician or water heater installer will know how to connect and install the water heater accordingly.
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13a switch/socket for water heater is as good as shit
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post Oct 17 2018, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(slimey @ Oct 17 2018, 05:04 PM)
13a switch/socket for water heater is as good as shit
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Ma bad, should be 20a not 13a.
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post Oct 17 2018, 05:13 PM

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Look at the red circle. The end to end are both PVC. They should not conduct electricity because inside the metallic thing is made from rubber. The only thing that could conduct electricity from your pic, is the water itself.
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post Oct 18 2018, 08:22 PM

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i have the same water filter as ts just installed. Installed it high 6-6.5ft but the shower head cannot reach the floor level. A bit difficult while showering my toddler and dog. How to extend the shower hose from the heater outlet? any extension pipe i can use to connect from the heather outlet and then connect the existing shower hose?
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post Dec 1 2018, 07:45 PM

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post Dec 2 2018, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(pmaxv @ Dec 1 2018, 07:45 PM)
Omg if you can feel the current definitely something is wrong with your home electrical system! better get a qualified electrician to check your earthing etc.
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Lol its a long time ago

My heater already dead

Installed new heater but still not working

Problem with heater switch already short circuit inside
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post Dec 3 2018, 01:42 PM

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post Oct 9 2020, 04:57 PM

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Hi, sorry for reviving old post
Just got my water heater installed yesterday, and noticed that the contractor is using a stainless steel joint for inlet point

Is it safe? Or better change to PVC?

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post Oct 9 2020, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(kapalterbang_737 @ Oct 9 2020, 05:57 PM)
Hi, sorry for reviving old post
Just got my water heater installed yesterday, and noticed that the contractor is using a stainless steel joint for inlet point

Is it safe? Or better change to PVC?

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yes...safe . no worries .

your shower head and cord/hose should be ALL plastic /rubber material. no chrome finish ! .

this heater come with a inbuild elcb ? test to check if the elcb works. ie trips .
if no elcb ... either you return the heater or install a RCBO . cos NOT safe at all.



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post Oct 9 2020, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(Momo33 @ Oct 9 2020, 06:14 PM)
yes...safe .  no worries  . 

your shower head and cord  should be plastic  /rubber material.    no chrome  finish ! . 

this heater come with  a inbuild elcb ?  test to check if the elcb works. ie trips .
if no elcb ... either you return the heater or install a RCBO  . cos NOT safe  at all.
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How about this? i'm going to change the angle valve..my current one i think abs chrome angle valve, is it safe to replace it to stainless steel angle valve?


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post Oct 9 2020, 11:15 PM

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This picture will tells you why a conductive hose is not recommended. The electrocution comes from the faulty heating element which are in contact with water. A PVC hose is way much safer.
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post Oct 9 2020, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(TerTop @ Oct 9 2020, 11:15 PM)
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This picture will tells you why a conductive hose is not recommended. The electrocution comes from the faulty heating element which are in contact with water. A PVC hose is way much safer.
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How about this angle valve? can use stainless steel?


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post Oct 9 2020, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(smappy @ Oct 10 2020, 12:03 AM)
How about this? i'm going to change the angle valve..my current one i think abs chrome angle valve, is it safe to replace it to stainless  steel angle valve?
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the plastics pvc piping go up to where ?

i guess to the water heater water IN .

yes is OK as risk is low cos you use a plastic tube .


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post Oct 10 2020, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(Momo33 @ Oct 9 2020, 11:37 PM)
the plastics  pvc piping go up to where ?

i guess to the  water heater  water IN .

yes is OK  as risk is low cos you use a plastic  tube .
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the plastic pipe go to water heater inlet. is that ok if i change the angle valve to the stainless steel type?
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post Oct 10 2020, 03:17 AM

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QUOTE(smappy @ Oct 10 2020, 01:37 AM)
the plastic pipe go to water heater inlet. is that ok if i change the angle valve to the stainless steel type?
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No problem for the water inlet, since you just change the L angle valve - assume you will keep the white flexihose.

It is the water outlet (to shower head) part that must use non-metallic (plastic hose).

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post Oct 10 2020, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(smappy @ Oct 10 2020, 02:37 AM)
the plastic pipe go to water heater inlet. is that ok if i change the angle valve to the stainless steel type?
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yes...no worries .
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post Oct 10 2020, 06:50 PM

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install this at outlet shower pipe ..can prevent electric shock?


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