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post Sep 21 2017, 11:50 AM, updated 9y ago

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Apple, Samsung, and Google will each be offering you a variety of ways to spend MYR 4k on your next phone. Why Samsung thinks it can get away with the escalation in price.

The three key factors are that
(a) it’s not a huge rise from last year’s Note model,
(b) it’s padded out with immediate bundles and sweeteners that get you extras like a DeX desktop dock, and
© Apple’s making the same move, which normalizes it.

For Apple, the iPhone X’s OLED screen from Samsung is surely a pricey component, especially when you consider Samsung’s likely reluctance to share an exclusive piece of hardware (no one else does bezel-less OLED of this quality, not even LG) with its biggest mobile rival. And as to Google and its new Pixel XL? I’m not going to prejudge that product, though it too is expected to have a hard-to-manufacture OLED display with reduced bezels.

The unifying threads between the three companies pushing past the MYR 4k marker are the desire to have an unmatched display (however briefly) and the depth of brand goodwill to convince consumers to come along for the ride. The loyalty of iPhone users is legendary, rivaled only by the degree of dependence that most of the world has on Google apps and services. And with Samsung having sold a few hundred million smartphones of its own, many people have grown attached to that brand too. To push people to spend more than they’ve previously been comfortable with, a strong brand is essential.

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post Sep 21 2017, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(Awakensoul @ Sep 21 2017, 01:09 PM)
Very true. Apple is just an over-hyped product. Unless your house is fully equipped with apple products, your iPhone is just like any other phone. Branding and status.

I usually use low-end phones like xiaomi brands because no purpose using an expensive phone when you get almost the same quality. Nowadays difference comes in the screen and camera, which I find no purpose. It's not like having an OLED screen phone will make your movies more exciting. In fact, I'd rather spend the money to watch a movie in the cinema. They add a little of upgrade specs, then charge u more. IPhone and Samsung is just branding and luxury product that doesn't give you too much from the previous one.
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The point is, consumer keep on buying those product, thus they continue innovate and increase pricing. If none or little of us buy them, they will start to looking into cheaper phone.
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post Sep 25 2017, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(Awakensoul @ Sep 22 2017, 10:13 AM)
And the point of consumer buying is because it's an overhyped product. Apple makes ppl think using Apple product upgrade their status. And when u wear apple watch u suddenly became got standard. It's seriously laughable.

Well they managed to create that mindset. Even Samsung too. They managed to penetrate users mindset.
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even Pixel are doing the same..
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post Sep 25 2017, 10:09 AM

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People are not going to stop buying overpriced, overhyped phones...

Is only going to get more expensive...
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post Sep 25 2017, 04:27 PM

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well said..
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post Sep 27 2017, 07:50 PM

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people keep spending and overprice phone
for:
status
feels premium
feels the world is his/her

plus phone will keep increase price due to crap tech they put in the phone and source become limted everyday
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post Sep 28 2017, 02:21 PM

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yup. the need to use the latest tech.
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post Sep 28 2017, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(Slick69 @ Sep 25 2017, 02:32 PM)
And that can't be allowed to continue.

Seriously, we should all start a trend in whatever way we can. Whether it's convincing our own family members, Facebook guys, old friends from whatsapp......

.....  anyone and anything we can and will do in our own power to convince people to stop buying new phones that's above RM2500 or without a headphone jack.

Hopefully a celebrity will pick this up and make it even more popular.

The big companies will never listen to us alone or with a few guys, but a whole community or a trending social media trends like that, they MUST listen to us all or we will never buy or encourage other people to buy from them again.

A threat is useless if none of them are followed through. (Just look at a certain crook in our country)

They won't listen to reason but they will be when it starting to effect their own wallets.

I will do my part,but if all these talking is just some "hangat-hangat taik ayam" thing then this all ends here in this thread, never to be spoken again.

The bigger the things we want, the more hard work and the sacrifices needed you know?

No such thing as a free lunch.
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dont need publicity.....let them use their common sense.....sure they will refuse to buy overprice not innovative phone(speaking against apple here)
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post Sep 28 2017, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(Nareen @ Sep 28 2017, 02:29 PM)
dont need publicity.....let them use their common sense.....sure they will refuse to buy overprice not innovative phone(speaking against apple here)
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they already lost their mind, imagine spending few hundreds more for feature that you rarely use..
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post Oct 20 2017, 01:24 PM

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How expensive it is, consumers will still buy a new phone. Just a matter of now or never. Some might save up to buy a flagship, some might settle for a mid-entry.
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post Oct 20 2017, 02:05 PM

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I thought many sarcastic remark of making more than 10k to 20k per mth in this forum, does price sensitive an issue?

If rich, all this means ntg ... Just saying
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post Oct 20 2017, 04:36 PM

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the phones are getting pricey, while other like notebook, TV etc etc..getting lower
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post Oct 23 2017, 08:46 AM

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I had stopped purchasing high-tier phone since several years back
More or less the features are boring
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post Oct 23 2017, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Oct 23 2017, 08:46 AM)
I had stopped purchasing high-tier phone since several years back
More or less the features are boring
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Hahaha!!! I actually start purchased used flagship phone few years back. Couldnt now afford even that time flagship phone cost rm2.4k.
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QUOTE(tsg_7 @ Oct 23 2017, 08:53 AM)
Hahaha!!! I actually start purchased used flagship phone few years back. Couldnt now afford even that time flagship phone cost rm2.4k.
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But if you buy new, you'll be entitled for tax rebate for your income tax

Up to RM2,500
(every year)
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Printed newspaper, smartphone,
tablet, internet subscription &
gym membership


Up to RM7,500 over 3 years

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post Oct 23 2017, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Oct 23 2017, 09:00 AM)
But if you buy new, you'll be entitled for tax rebate for your income tax

Up to RM2,500
(every year)
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Printed newspaper, smartphone,
tablet, internet subscription &
gym membership
Up to RM7,500 over 3 years
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But thats only started since this year right? Anyhow, i dun feel worth it even with tax rebate. With rm7500 brp rebate u can get? Then u minus off ur flagship phone price with the rebate u get and what will be the final price of ur smartphone. Assuming all the rebate goes to ur smartphone.
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post Oct 23 2017, 03:55 PM

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You think its expensive cause the Ringgit is garbage.

Not to mention overseas their phone + line package is MUCH more attractive compared to what Malaysia is paying for.
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post Oct 23 2017, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(tsg_7 @ Oct 23 2017, 03:49 PM)
But thats only started since this year right? Anyhow, i dun feel worth it even with tax rebate. With rm7500 brp rebate u can get? Then u minus off ur flagship phone price with the rebate u get and what will be the final price of ur smartphone. Assuming all the rebate goes to ur smartphone.
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Well better get some than nothing
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post Oct 23 2017, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Oct 23 2017, 04:07 PM)
Well better get some than nothing
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Hahaha. Thats y i buy used phone. But of coz it is becoz im poorfag la..
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post Oct 23 2017, 04:14 PM

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post Oct 23 2017, 04:40 PM

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Its actually good that phones are overpriced (the high end ones) as this gives manufacturer money to innovate such that their mid range phones can be sold to the generally public at reasonable price.
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QUOTE(tsg_7 @ Oct 23 2017, 04:13 PM)
Hahaha. Thats y i buy used phone. But of coz it is becoz im poorfag la..
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But can't get tax rebate..
Haha
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post Oct 23 2017, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Oct 23 2017, 05:03 PM)
But can't get tax rebate..
Haha
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Nvm. Aa long as the price i buy less than what flagship phone price - rebate. Kek.
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QUOTE(tsg_7 @ Oct 23 2017, 06:02 PM)
Nvm. Aa long as the price i buy less than what flagship phone price - rebate. Kek.
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post Oct 23 2017, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Oct 23 2017, 06:18 PM)
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Is ok mang. Poor fag like me is like that lor. I dun wan rm4k poorer just becoz of the most update trend n smartphone while gain ntg at the end while making manufacturer more and more profit. smile.gif
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QUOTE(endymeon @ Sep 21 2017, 11:50 AM)
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No.

First of all, the phone market is very competitive and your argument's only valid if its monopolized by one or two players.

Think Apple or Samsung too expensive?

Then just get some cheap china phones..there's plenty of choices for every budget. Heck there's even companies targeting "flagship specs" for mid range price.

Moving up price segments gives the brands room/margin to breath and add new features which eventually trickles down to lower price segments.

As for brand loyalty... not really. Consumer brand loyalty these days has been lowest in history.



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post Oct 28 2017, 11:17 AM

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one thing though. more expensice the hardware.
at least the magnufacturers need packed with more bells & whistles stuff.
dont cut corners, dont take away things previously got.
keep adding.
*dont take away useful things ppl enjoy in previous device...and suddenly ppl upgrade and see tiok...hey this good useful GUI suddenly poof! disappeared
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post Oct 29 2017, 10:06 PM

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post Oct 29 2017, 11:47 PM

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Well we have xiaomi and huawei are challenging now..
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post Oct 30 2017, 12:53 AM

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I only buy what I can afford....full stop. What others buy is not my concern. If you can only afford a phone worth RM 500, there are plenty of phones within that range. So the choice is yours.
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post Nov 4 2017, 02:22 PM

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That is what happen when people relates phone with status.

I agree with ur statement ts. Got only minor improvement yearly, yet people still buy.

Especially on iphone. I cannot brain customer change phone every year.

Ya, I know their money. Up to them la to buy. But still the obsession to get newer and latest smartphone is topkek behavior.


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Not a bad trend I would say. Invention need money and there must be someone who pay for it. Later the technology will be move to mid range and the process restart again.

If you have cash you can go ahead buy flagship and if less cash
in hand you can always look for decent mid range. So I don't see any issue here.

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post Nov 6 2017, 02:25 PM

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Indeed no issue here, but still we are the one who drive the rising of the product price.

It similar to increasing petrol price, if you can't afford it don't complaint about it. If you are unable to afford the price go take the public transport despite it may that much more time.

Item price is rising, it's ok, you can choose to eat cheaper things like bring your own lunch. It really not an issue.
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post Nov 13 2017, 11:45 PM

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if i change phone every 2-3 years.. 4k is just a waste of money..

planning to buy huawei nove 2i which is just 1.3k.. after 2-3 yrs another 1.3k..
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smartphones will be dead soon.. 😌
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QUOTE(endymeon @ Sep 21 2017, 02:16 PM)
The point is, consumer keep on buying those product, thus they continue not innovate and increase pricing. If none or little of us buy them, they will start to looking into cheaper phone.
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Fixed.

I agree with this term but not so for the fan boys


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post Nov 17 2017, 04:27 PM

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Im actually thinking of getting the S9 but i am worried about the price. Samsung usually sell their phones a little cheaper than iPhone. But with iPhone x reaching 5900, I am worried that the Samsung 9 will be at lease rm5k
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post Nov 17 2017, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(kixhardy @ Nov 17 2017, 04:27 PM)
Im actually thinking of getting the S9 but i am worried about the price. Samsung usually sell their phones a little cheaper than iPhone. But with iPhone x reaching 5900, I am worried that the Samsung 9 will be at lease rm5k
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with current situation, it is always unwise to get the latest phone during launch. It is much cheaper to get it after half year or maybe get S8 when S9 is out. Even now you can get S8 as low as MYR 2349 during the 11.11 sales.


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QUOTE(endymeon @ Nov 17 2017, 05:19 PM)
with current situation, it is always unwise to get the latest phone during launch. It is much cheaper to get it after half year or maybe get S8 when S9 is out. Even now you can get S8 as low as MYR 2349 during the 11.11 sales.
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What youve just said is true. I was considering getting a phone during 11.11 but just decided not to. I guess ill keep my iphone 5S for a few more months until i see another great deal.
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 26 2017, 10:48 AM)
No.

First of all, the phone market is very competitive and your argument's only valid if its monopolized by one or two players.

Think Apple or Samsung too expensive?

Then just get some cheap china phones..there's plenty of choices for every budget. Heck there's even companies targeting "flagship specs" for mid range price.

Moving up price segments gives the brands room/margin to breath and add new features which eventually trickles down to lower price segments.

As for brand loyalty... not really. Consumer brand loyalty these days has been lowest in history.
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Good points. But too bad, brand loyalty does indeed apply to a significant number of consumers. Apple users are the main culprit, then comes Samsung. I've seen people complaining about apple decision to release ip8 and X at the same time while upping the price of the X, but in the end still got the X because...and I quote...no choice. Samsung users tend to stick to Samsung because Chinese brands cannot be trusted and you rarely see them switching over to LG or another brand. That said, it's easier for Samsung users to migrate to another brand. So, I feel that the apple users are the one caged in. Apple releases a new iPhone, and if their current one is too old, they don't have a choice, they have to get the new phone.
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post Nov 20 2017, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(kixhardy @ Nov 17 2017, 05:31 PM)
What youve just said is true. I was considering getting a phone during 11.11 but just decided not to. I guess ill keep my iphone 5S for a few more months until i see another great deal.
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i agree with that, my note 2 need to get upgraded soon too...
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Late to the party and I know I'm necro'ing an old thread, but thought it's worth commenting here rather than start a new thread.

Already boycotted flagships ever since prices shot up to more than RM 2k. At the current price of RM 3k - RM 5k, I don't really find it worthwhile to spend so much money on a smartphone when at that same price, you can already get a mid to high-spec laptop and desktop PC. Quite ridiculous if you ask me, but many of them who bought at that price thinks otherwise.

I'd rather wait until the price drops to half or below that after a year or more, then I'll be willing to consider it.

 

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