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MacOS X Leopard not out until Oct 07, all because of iPhone...

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post Apr 13 2007, 06:18 AM, updated 19y ago

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iPhone has already passed several of its required certification tests and is on schedule to ship in late June as planned. We can't wait until customers get their hands (and fingers) on it and experience what a revolutionary and magical product it is. However, iPhone contains the most sophisticated software ever shipped on a mobile device, and finishing it on time has not come without a price - we had to borrow some key software engineering and QA resources from our Mac OS X team, and as a result we will not be able to release Leopard at our Worldwide Developers Conference in early June as planned. While Leopard's features will be complete by then, we cannot deliver the quality release that we and our customers expect from us. We now plan to show our developers a near final version of Leopard at the conference, give them a beta copy to take home so they can do their final testing, and ship Leopard in October. We think it will be well worth the wait. Life often presents tradeoffs, and in this case we're sure we've made the right ones


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post Apr 13 2007, 08:01 AM

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Just read that news few hours ago too..

Not sure if that is a good or bad thing as I am getting a new mac by x'mas..

Bad news to people waiting for leopard while good news for people waiting for iPhone.
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post Apr 13 2007, 08:16 AM

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http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/04...il_october.html as well

And I was hoping to have a Leopard-running MacBook Pro ordered and ready for me in August.
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post Apr 13 2007, 08:30 AM

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Looks like it came out just in time for those still hesitating to get a Mac this PC Fair.. No need to wait anymore, just get it first!
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post Apr 13 2007, 09:09 AM

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Pretty glad that it didn't came early...
It'll really make recent buyer of Mac frustrated (i know i will, bought it on February, few months later newer OS come out)

Gotta spend few hundred if we were to upgrade it
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post Apr 13 2007, 09:10 AM

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lol, what's the big fuss. just grab whatever mac u want if you need it. I don't see much actual improvement from tiger to leopard that you must have it. Most of it are add-on that can be done with apps. Even if it's out on this year, i'll probably wait for 10.5.2 before upgrading my workstation.
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post Apr 13 2007, 12:09 PM

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Agree completely with Wei. Apple operating system upgrades are very much incremental. I doubt very many people make a buying decision based on the release of the new point upgrade to OS X.

The same cannot be said for Windows. My Vaio SZ18GP shipped with XP Pro. I've since upgraded it to Vista using a store-bought OEM copy. It is no easy task to get the drivers updated to Vista for the various hardware components. Buying a Vaio with Vista preinstalled would be a much easier task.

Compare however with Apple OS upgrades; insert DVD, choose password and with minimal fuss : you're upgraded.
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post Apr 13 2007, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(MacDaNife @ Apr 13 2007, 12:09 PM)
Agree completely with Wei. Apple operating system upgrades are very much incremental. I doubt very many people make a buying decision based on the release of the new point upgrade to OS X.
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Actually, many people particularly new Mac users are (were?) waiting for the latest Leopard release before buying a Mac. Not sure what they'll decide now...
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post Apr 13 2007, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Apr 13 2007, 01:21 PM)
Actually, many people particularly new Mac users are (were?) waiting for the latest Leopard release before buying a Mac. Not sure what they'll decide now...
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they still waiting for good bargain , perhaps ?
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post Apr 13 2007, 03:11 PM

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lol... i don't like to repeat myself.

"By the time you waited for leopard, then Apple will/might announce Mac revision that's coming next few months. Wait again? Ok, fine, faster machine, why not right? Then you waited, by the time the new machine coming, there's a new apps or new version of OS announced. Wait again? (and this will never end)"
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post Apr 13 2007, 03:16 PM

 
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October... ?

I don't think I can resist the Macbook temptation anymore.. tongue.gif

PC Fair's offer is pretty decent. Really wanted to wait out till June...
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post Apr 13 2007, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(kwekeugene @ Apr 13 2007, 04:16 PM)
October... ?

I don't think I can resist the Macbook temptation anymore.. tongue.gif

PC Fair's offer is pretty decent. Really wanted to wait out till June...
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post Apr 13 2007, 04:55 PM

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Actually I think many users are waiting for Leopard to make new buy and now Leopard was delayed, must be really dissapointed. I am excited more to Leopard rather than the iPhone, and hopefully my wait for next MB with new graphics chip will came with Leopard biggrin.gif
But maybe it's too late and I might not getting new MB with Leopard unsure.gif
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post Apr 13 2007, 05:04 PM

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Arr this quite sucks. Anyway, I'm still getting my iMac, don't want to OT but just one question, the iMac at tomorrows PC Fair and Sunday(KLCC) will come with JBL Soundsticks II right?
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post Apr 13 2007, 05:48 PM

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damn, really dissapointed with that, i wait since last year for the new osx before i get my first mac
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post Apr 13 2007, 06:35 PM

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I was holding out for Leopard in hopes that Apple would release some hardware changes to their current line of product immediately preceding the OS' release. MacRumors' Buying Guide suggests that the Mac Mini, iMac, and MacBook Pro are all in line for updates coming soon. I'm just hoping that Apple throws LED-backlit displays into the MacBook Pro along with some other minor hardware revisions so I have an excuse to purchase soon.

On the bright side, this extra time that Apple has afforded itself means less problems come release day.
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post Apr 13 2007, 11:24 PM

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Me too, I had purposely held back my Macbook Pro purchase in hopes of hardware spec changes with the upcoming Leopard, as well having it preloaded. Looks like now I have to get it after October.
Any chance, any of you all would have any idea what Apple might charge to upgrade from Tiger to Leopard?
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post Apr 14 2007, 08:00 AM

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Apple OS pricing has always been at around USD 100 (Do the math). Unless you've bought a Mac 3 months prior to the OS release (in which case, the upgrade is free) you won't get significant discounts from Apple. You can ignore those coupons in the retail box too, they turn out to be useless.

For those of you new to the Mac, things were not always this way. Prior to System 7, OS upgrades were FREE.
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post Apr 14 2007, 01:05 PM

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Hmm so we people that buy things at the PC Fair are out of luck edy. And I don't think my dad will pay 100USD just for OS Upgrade. For the first time, Apple disappoint me.
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post Apr 14 2007, 03:06 PM

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Again , there are many ways to get a copy of any things out there.....Oh , There is not activation junk etc on OSX *yet*
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post Apr 16 2007, 01:59 AM

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sadly i plan to buy an imac during this summer (ie July - Aug) but Oct? thats abit too long to wait... stupid iphone...
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post Apr 16 2007, 10:05 AM

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Gallery: Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard build 9A410

http://www.thinksecret.com/news/leopard9a410.html
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post Apr 16 2007, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(samus_ng @ Apr 14 2007, 01:05 PM)
Hmm so we people that buy things at the PC Fair are out of luck edy. And I don't think my dad will pay 100USD just for OS Upgrade. For the first time, Apple disappoint me.
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puh-leeazzz.....!!! shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

your dad's gonna get you an imac, and you wanna complain about Apple disappointing you for just a 4-month delay for a more sturdly-built Leopard...? doh.gif doh.gif

Ask yourself again, who's gonna be paying for your iMac and possibly a Leopard upgrade. Be content with what you're gonna get and stop whining.... and if you think that apple products are expensive and not affordable, just get a PC and post your frustrations elsewhere...

and mind you, I've been observing your posts here in AppleByte, and most of them aren't even contributive.

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post Apr 16 2007, 01:47 PM

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hehehe... i mean, we're here to find more ways to better utilise our Macs, not really to complain about Apple being late.

with any technology company, by the time you wait for new products, they've already moved on to designing the next thing. what matters is the product that's being sold now meets your needs, and you can afford it.

edited, subsituted the word instead of the corporate logo.

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hw could apple take such a long time to get the leapord os x
i was hopping it would come out in june so i can buy my i mac together with the build in leapord
i fell very depressed so i'm goin to call steve jobs
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post Apr 17 2007, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(moneyface_mario @ Apr 17 2007, 06:56 PM)
i fell very depressed so i'm goin to call steve jobs
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Kids. I suggest you brush up on your English first so people will take you seriously.

But really - what can you expect out of Apple at this point in time? The iPhone is perhaps the most anticipated gadget of this year and development on it should very well take precedence over the release of a new operating system. Go buy a new Mac and upgrade to Leopard when you feel like it whilst everyone in North America toys around with their iPhones.
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post Apr 17 2007, 08:11 PM

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moneyface_mario,

"If u can wait, u wait. If u can't and don't wish to purchase a Mac now, then go get urself another notebook bundled with Vista." cool2.gif
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post Apr 19 2007, 01:31 AM

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the news kind of bump be out alittle...aiks,just which the delay will make leopard better...wat to do,gotta wait...
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post Apr 20 2007, 12:11 AM

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I'm also one of the 'waiting people', waiting to switch to the Mac OS once it's out. Already am itching for it but considering the fact that I'm unable to get my hands on the latest Command & Conquer game, October sounds fine with me.

By the way, a little off topic: Anyone knows whether a Mac can read all the files on a DVD/CD that I burnt on Windows? Files like images, movies, mp3?
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post Apr 20 2007, 12:01 PM

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images files, movies and mp3 are no problems for MAC...
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post Apr 20 2007, 01:15 PM

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post Apr 20 2007, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Apr 17 2007, 08:11 PM)
moneyface_mario,

"If u can wait, u wait.  If u can't and don't wish to purchase a Mac now, then go get urself another notebook bundled with Vista."  cool2.gif
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eh i only support mac okkkkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by the way i though u can buy the software once it comes out
so for now use tiger os x la also good wat
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post Apr 20 2007, 02:24 PM

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I'm waiting. Don't mind at all. You can argue that we will alway get better stuffs by waiting, but I'm only waiting for Leopard to release. By then maybe they'll chip in 20inch iMacc with mainstream quad cores. haha biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(allornothing @ Apr 20 2007, 03:24 PM)
I'm waiting. Don't mind at all. You can argue that we will alway get better stuffs by waiting, but I'm only waiting for Leopard to release. By then maybe they'll chip in 20inch iMacc with mainstream quad cores. haha  biggrin.gif
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That's only in your dream tongue.gif rolleyes.gif If want quadcores, then you need wait for Intel's Penryn Chip or Nehalem (45nanometer) in 2008.. wkakakak biggrin.gif
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