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ys2233
post Jan 17 2018, 07:41 PM

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Hope this post will be useful for those new to UG.

having completed >10k UberX trips, 0.2mil km and having kept data since day 1, the daily goal is to achieve rm1(nett of commission) for every km driven. Reset your trip meter every time you start your day so that this can be tracked throughout the day. Will call it a day should this target drift near 0.50/km.

This 1/km is impossible to achieve without the incentives which is
1. Boost (1.1-2.1x)
2. Quest/flash quest (1.30-9.70/trip) btw FQ is extinct now
3. Ace (useless if you make use of 1&2)

1 &2 is announced every Thursday/Sunday evening, so that's the time to work out your schedule for the next few days.

Average speed 21kph. Goes up if more airport trips.

Average cost: fuel 0.16 +50% scheduled maintenance (engine/gear box oil & tyres are the top 2) +25% accelerated depreciation & accident risks. Total 0.28/km

Average dead miles:35% of daily km driven

Barest minimum cost should be 0.50/km and consistent nett earning 10-35/hr..

That's the reason why I go offline when earning drift towards 0.50/km and also when I achieve the daily quest quota.

Btw driver destination which was useful in getting long trips with high boost/surge is useless since the start of the new year.

Would definitely like to hear from those who can consistently achieve >1/km.



ys2233
post Jan 19 2018, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(Utopia Angel @ Jan 19 2018, 09:07 AM)
At least 90% short trips, I hate it.
It's a waste of time, total charity work.
You can drive non-stop for hours doing these short trips and make only rm50.
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I totally disagree (see my earlier post on how you can earn or lose money).

Since the incentives are based on number of trips (regardless of distance), the shorter the trip, the lower your costs so effectively you earn more.

What's the point of doing an airport trip that earns you additional rm3 incentive when you can earn the same by doing a short 0.5km trip?

Many drivers are making the mistake of equating total fares with higher earnings when they don't take into account their costs. In reality the more you drive without incentives, even if your total fares are sky high, you may end up doing charity work

Long trips are only worth doing when the boost/surge is very high else you can never get anything close to rm1/km. Unlike before, without the SD feature, getting a long trip with surge/boost above 2x is like striking 4d


ys2233
post Jan 21 2018, 08:59 AM

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Uber's business is all about balancing the demand and supply through their big data analytics.. their only target is number of trips. Balancing of rider's is done through selective promo codes. Drivers are distributed via boost incentives.

As long as income from non-incentive drivers are not less then payouts to incentive drivers, they can do business at no costs.

Why are we discussing strategies in public? Hopefully, if we are united, we may be able to have an edge over big data. In short, a very simple strategy

No boost, no surge, no drive

It's either the company or the rider has to pay for your hard work.

Another scenario is that they will bring back more and/or higher boosts areas. Have you notice that boost does not exist on Fridays which is usually very busy? So they can now sapu all your earnings.

If enough drivers have the courage to go offline, they may even bring back flash quest (which used to be about 5/trip) which is available at very short notice and limited to peak hours.

Happy strategizing!!
ys2233
post Feb 10 2018, 10:24 PM

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Is it true that long trip warning (40+min) is blanked out for trips originating from airports?

Klia - confirm
Other airports??
ys2233
post Mar 7 2018, 05:45 PM

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I beg to differ that Ubers technology is inferior to crap. On the contrary, it's at least 1 year ahead. From past history, whatever Uber throws away, crap will pick up, for eg hourly guarantees, SD.

believe that Uber is now refining SD to prevent abuse by certain groups (you know who you are!!). Very typical of Uber ethics, instead of resorting to banning, they use technology to prevent the abuse.

Accidentally discovered, so it may be under trial now..

- SD can be set any time, any location after completing 20+ trips

- app will ask if you want to activate SD when you switch offline. This is random, no particular pattern

- the excuse of maintaining network reliability is bullshit! If terms are not met, SD is not available even in the middle of the jungle


ys2233
post Mar 7 2018, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(bcombat @ Mar 7 2018, 06:27 PM)


Can someone enlighted the criteria for using ublur SD? cannot brain how their backend set their system criteria.
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As mentioned earlier, I believe it's still on trial with AI factored in (your online pattern) to prevent being abused by certain groups for their selfish benefit.
ys2233
post Mar 7 2018, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(AciDPoWer @ Mar 7 2018, 05:53 PM)
I usually gave 1 star to all short distance riders to create awareness for other drivers before they pick up the booking. I alway choose riders above 4.6 and distance below 3km.
Hope all drivers can do the same so we can know how is the riders behavior. I think all drivers understand the feeling of picking up the riders short distance. Sorry to riders alway looking for short distance and cheap rides.
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Rather unusual that you don't like short trips... Don't you have quest & boost which can add 10 bucks to the trip. Can't imagine that you wanna forego 13 bucks for a 1km trip
ys2233
post Mar 27 2018, 01:01 AM

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10. For incentives calculations, you can't pick up the same rider more then once per week.

This was the main reason that I refuse to drive crap. It's so ridiculous for the drivers to be mindful of so many things while driving.

So will Uber drivers switch over? Let's just wait and see if they have the sense to make adjustments to their t&c.

Moreover, everyone knows their app is so crappy (both rider & driver). Can their system withstand the expected surge? After all, last week they can't even handle a simple form submission for their existing drivers to opt in for 20% commission.

A lot of their extra work and payment delays comes from gaming detection. Why can't they do this at the system level like Uber which prevents it from happening in the first place? Too stingy to hire top notch engineers?

Well, interesting times ahead with both Japanese and Uber people in their management.


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post Mar 28 2018, 01:28 PM

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Go-jek coming to Malaysia?
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post Mar 28 2018, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Mar 28 2018, 02:34 PM)
Keep dreaming lah๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿ‘Š

Dont forget gojek boss and grab boss are ex-classmates and they already enemies from the business starting๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜‚
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They made an announcement this morning that they are expanding to 3 SEA counties without naming them. Philippines is for sure as they have already made an earlier announcement

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