I think he meant Sony flagships like A9G? X90H is actually not a flagship.

Can get Sony A80J. The 65" was Rm7559 before LZ cash during 12.12. C1 was around Rm9.2k.

QN90A also IPS panel unless it’s the 85” as confirmed by bro Convael. You can check the Samsung thread also. I am also interested to get the 55 but too bad not VA.

We dont get the QN90A like those reviewed by Rtings in US.

This post has been edited by Kahlamx: Dec 30 2021, 12:13 PM

Q6N uses VA? I just did a search and native contrast ratio is 1300:1 which is rather low (and normally IPS panels is around those values). Probably the QD filters help a bit to bring out the colors more and you might think you are having darker black as a result of that.

VA typically around 3000-5000 : 1 (without LD on, native)

If it's IPS, then backlight bleeding will be more obvious from the moment you turn on your TV (without any images on the screen yet). Like uneven light splashes on the screen.

This post has been edited by Kahlamx: Mar 27 2025, 10:56 AM

Normally in order to have a good representation for HDR you need ~20000 : 1 (Resulting in peak luminance 1000 - 0.05 nits min black luminance) with local dimming on, and this is almost a decade old requirement for LCD based.

These days it should be higher like 50000 : 1, 100000 : 1 (like the bravia 7, but obviously premium price has to be paid) for LCD or QLED based.

But then if you are happy with it, then just enjoy!

I don't think there are commercially available 12-bit OLED TVs yet (Not sure about some 12-bit phone brands in the market). The current reference grade displays like the Sony HX3110 or Flanders Scientific XMP650 (QD-OLED) are still with 10-bit color depth with peak luminance keeps increasing each iteration.

While I am not sure how a 12-bit HDR to 10-bit HDR would look like, I am sure I can tell a 8-bit SDR to 10-bit HDR video (A big step up 16.7 million colors to 1.07 billion colors, 12-bit is 68.7billion colors) which translate to a very smooth gradient to the color's representation, more "life like", again more noticeable in "4K HDR" videos, D65 calibrated display.

HDR is a different kind of immersive-ness, I think the more proper word would be to let you "submerge" into the "life-like" visual experience. Also, HDR is not a hype and certainly not a "newer tech hype", it is about expanding the range of luminance (contrast ratio) again to be more "life-like". The wider the range, the better the display would be able to finetune the colors and details. Once you experience an OLED TV hanged to the wall in a completely dark room (to the point you can't even see the border of the TV), and firework, starry night, bright sun floats/glares right in front of you, you probably wouldn't say the same about HDR.

I own OLED, QD-OLED, FALD LED, 700 nits Art OLED laptop (with overall Delta E <1) and some 1500 nits RGB OLED phone from a fruit company. I can tell you one thing for sure, the higher the brightness and contrast of the display, the better it is with HDR specular highlight "life-like" details and colors. It's actually those little steps up in technical that make the HDR videos more impactful. E.g. Between a 700 nits OLED and a 1000 nits OLED TVs, the higher brightness TV will always produce a more "correct" feel and colors and "depth" to a dark scene composition (Furnitures, lights, surroundings). This will also aid what postproduction/colorists in a movie to achieve their intended "feel and mood" of the movie/scene.

Don't want to get into the debate of which is being more immersive that is completely subjective, just trying to give my opinion on what HDR is. But I am sure you understand my point since you have projector, OLED TV and photography rig (pretty sure you already have a dark room/environment). I guess if you watch a lot of SDR 100 nits movies still, projector is perfectly fine.

*I am not an AV, videophile or video production guy or colorist or whatever you want to call by any means. I just like HDR movies and gaming as a hobby. Peace

That's correct and it would do a lot of HDR tone mapping for sure

Lower brightness Tv will also do tone mapping with a EOTF gradual roll off for specular details at peak luminance. Say for example the content is mastered at 1000 nits and the TV is only capable of 700 nits.

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As for vivid or warm follow your correct presets for B4. If you use the correct presets like the filmmaker mode it should not look vivid, contrasty with soap opera effect, in fact most will find it slightly yellowish. Also, these days OLED TVs are very accurate in terms of color dE right out of the box, again if you use the correct presets.

*To give you another idea about color temp (I am sure you probably already know this), I like to set my tablet and phone for reading to almost 4-5K temp. Whenever I turn on my TV knowing it's at D65 and correct filmmaker mode, I will also feel a slight "vividness" because my eyes are adjusting back to D65 temp when in actual fact it's not vivid. Colder temp would be anything higher than D65.

This post has been edited by Kahlamx: Apr 1 2025, 12:57 PM

I take this as a positive thing though , most of the time these "highest peak brightness" TVs is only for vivid (cold) mode. When calibrated to 6500k then it's lower than those numbers. Accounting for ABL and ambience bright room condition to overcome the glare (cause most if not all people don't watch in a dark room), there will be plenty of head room and less to none tone mapping required. I think sweet spot would be 1300-1500 nits (at least for 1000 nits content)

Dolby Pulsar used for Dolby Vision mastering is actually a 4000 nits monitor which is available for many years already and recently I believe Sony Pictures want to set the minimal content target to 4000 nits. I guess the general direction is moving towards a higher and fuller Rec.2020 coverage + 4000 nits target.

Yes I do agree that APL (not to be confused with ABL) for movies “in general” (especially Netflix ones since deliverable requirements is 1000 nits) never exceed that level but there is another thing called color luminance >1000 nits (at higher brightness) to look into also.

Also, I believe that filmmakers or cameras they are using can already shoot out to these high dynamic ranges? But whether or not post houses want to master at those level that one I am not sure la. But I saw on some "colorists" thread, they say it looks gorgeous on the HX3110 at least and save them time working on one color space and not both SDR and HDR 1000 nits workflow (540 nits transform).

Just a mere discussion on this topic. Peace

This post has been edited by Kahlamx: Apr 4 2025, 12:55 PM

Can consider Bravia 8 mark II. From what I read, it will supposedly handshake PS5 HDR settings better with the TV (Normally we need to calibrate the MaxTML, MinTML by the clicking in PS5 HDR settings).

Yes. 120hz.

https://www.sony.com.my/bravia/products/bravia-8m2/feature3

https://www.sony.com.my/bravia/products/bravia-8m2/spec (specs yet to be updated, but looks like there is a 55" !)

X90L probably would be a better choice due to XR. X85L is still using X1 processor which seems like forever.

But you already have quite a decent budget for the new TV and a PS5 "Pro". Why not pair it with an OLED?

PS5? You won't go wrong with Samsung S90D (glossy) /S95F (if you are okay with matte screen) or LG C5.

I would lean more to S90D since PS5 doesn't support Dolby Vision anyways.