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Ah Ming 88
post Mar 28 2022, 12:28 AM

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Hi, sifus.
4 winners ezbet 15. Prize is 1/35*jackpot pool.
1 winner won 2,710,374.20
But now total won is 10,841,496.80
Question is why no split prize for partial won?
Should be 1/35*94,863,097 divide by 4 winners
Or 2,710,374.20 divide by 4
= 677,593.55 each winner


Ah Ming 88
post Mar 28 2022, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(Jenglot @ Mar 28 2022, 12:49 AM)
keyword here is "Prize is 1/35*jackpot pool"

jackpot pool yesterday = RM 94,863,097
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Jackpot winnings is based on only one ezbet winner in that particular draw. If 4 winners need divided by 4.
Ah Ming 88
post Mar 28 2022, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Mar 28 2022, 06:30 AM)
All games (incl ez bet) winners are bettng on the pool money.

Every ez bet system 15 ticket will have 15 different numbers but only 6 numbers will be drawn to win part of the 1st prize. A very low % that any two or more tickets with 15 numbers are the same.

If there are more than 35 winners, then the pool money will be divided and the jackpot considered won and revert to 8,888,888.

If is straight betting of 6 numbers, yes, the pool money will be divided by the number of tickets sold since ALL tickets are the same numbers.
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Ezbet 15 got 5005 combinations, total combination 40million+.
1 of 5005 tickets hit 6 numbers in jackpot, only that ticket won jpt.
Not 15 numbers ticket.
Prize 1/10010*286*jpt=1/35*jpt
So 4 winners bought 15 different numbers, but only 1 ticket same 6 numbers won jackpot.
Have to share the prize 1/35*jpt.

This post has been edited by Ah Ming 88: Mar 28 2022, 09:36 AM
Ah Ming 88
post Mar 28 2022, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Mar 28 2022, 09:55 AM)
The 4 winners ticket can have the same 6 numbers in each of the 15 numbers.

In ez bet, 'winner' cannot win the total jackpot but part of it.

EZ betting is not betting among each other to be a winner but against Sports Toto.

If a winner has 2 similar tickets number, he wins x2.

Similar to 4d betting. Punters bet based on the prize payout and not on how many people bet on the same number. The max payout is based on the 'pool' limit set by operators. Once a certain number is 'sold out', that is the max payout.
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Check in how to play ezbet 6/58 prize structure,
There is a note stated Jackpot winnings is based on only one ezbet winner in that particular draw.
1/35*jpt if only one ezbet winner in that draw.
Ah Ming 88
post Mar 28 2022, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Mar 28 2022, 10:46 AM)
What happens if a ez bet winner wins under System 9 and 4 wins System 15 yesterday ?
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94 million divide by 5 portions.
System 15 not ezbet 15
System 15 cost RM10010.
Ezbet 15 cost RM286.

This post has been edited by Ah Ming 88: Mar 28 2022, 11:02 AM
Ah Ming 88
post Mar 28 2022, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(-Nos- @ Mar 28 2022, 10:53 AM)
lol top kek

why this guy butthurt ppl win money?

dont worry la, toto can afford to pay.  rclxub.gif
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Are those winners really exist?

Ah Ming 88
post Mar 28 2022, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Mar 28 2022, 11:02 AM)
The cost to play each ez bet system is different and how can it be fair to share the 2.7 mil equally ?
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94 million divided by 5 portions, if 5 system play.
System 15 not ezbet 15
System 15 cost RM10010.
Ezbet 15 cost RM286.
The cost different, you get different combinations, and different prize
Ezbet 9, prize 1/2*jpt , cost ticket RM84
System 9 cost ticket RM168, 84 combinations only
Ezbet 9 prize 1/168*84*jpt= 1/2*jpt

System 15 cost ticket RM10010, 5005 combinations.
Ezbet 15 prize 1/10010*286=1/35*jpt

If 1 ezbet 9, 4 ezbet 15
1/35 (2.7 million) shared by 5 winners, each portion 540k.
1/2-1/35 (47-2.7= 44.3 million) won by ezbet 9
Total ezbet 9 prize for jpt only is 44.84 million.


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post Mar 28 2022, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Mar 28 2022, 11:33 AM)
The topic is on ez bet system 9 to 15. We shall not be confused with system bet even though I may not indicate sometimes.

Why cant take ez bet 9 winning and share by 5 ?
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If 1 ezbet 9, 4 ezbet 15
1/35 (2.7 million) shared by 5 winners, each portion 540k.
1/2-1/35 (47-2.7= 44.3 million) won by ezbet 9
Total ezbet 9 prize for jpt only is 44.84 million.

Ezbet 9 pay RM 84 for 84 combinations, cost per combination RM1, one ticket RM2, 1/2*jpt = 0.5*jpt
Ezbet 15 pay RM 286 for 5005 combinations, cost per combination RM0.057, one ticket RM2, 1/35*jpt = 0.0285*jpt

This post has been edited by Ah Ming 88: Mar 28 2022, 11:48 AM
Ah Ming 88
post Mar 28 2022, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Mar 28 2022, 12:00 PM)
EZ bet winning table is based on per winning ticket based on the overall pool money.

If ez bet 9 can claim for ez bet 15, then how about ez bet, 10, 11, 12, 13 and 14 if there is winning for each system ?

Buy 1 claim 6 ?
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If 1 ezbet 9, 4 ezbet 15
1/35 (2.7 million) shared by 5 winners, each portion 540k.
1/2-1/35 (47-2.7= 44.3 million) won by ezbet 9
Total ezbet 9 prize for jpt only is 44.84 million.

Ezbet 9 pay RM 84 for 84 combinations, cost per combination RM1, one ticket RM2, 1/2*jpt = 0.5*jpt
Ezbet 15 pay RM 286 for 5005 combinations, cost per combination RM0.057, one ticket RM2, 1/35*jpt = 0.0285*jpt

Ezbet 9 should won 1/2*jpt
Another 1 for ezbet 10 and 4 for ezbet 15

Ezbet 10 pay RM 84 for 210 combinations, cost per combination RM0.4, one ticket RM2, 1/5*jpt = 0.2*jpt
1/35 (2.7 million) shared by 6 winners, each portion 450k.
1/5 - 1/35 (18.8-2.7 =16.1 million shared by ezbet 9 & 10. Each portion 8.05 million
1/2-1/5 (47-18.8= 28.2 million) won by ezbet 9
Total ezbet 9 prize for jpt only is (28.2+8.05+0.45) = 36.7 million.

Ezbet 9 max prize is 1/2*jpt = 47 million.
If more winners, ezbet 9 prize reduced cause need share the prize.

If one person all in buy all combinations cost RM 84million+, cost per combination RM2, one ticket RM2, 1*jpt
1 ezbet 9 pay RM 84 for 84 combinations, cost per combination RM1, one ticket RM2, 1/2*jpt = 0.5*jpt
they both should not get same 47 million.
Total All in prize for jpt only is (47+23.5) = 70.5 million.
The ezbet 9 prize is (47/2) = 23.5 million

This post has been edited by Ah Ming 88: Mar 28 2022, 12:52 PM
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post Mar 28 2022, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(N900rocks @ Mar 28 2022, 12:12 PM)
Tak puas hati then set up your own toto company
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Some people said lottery is scam, it is called poor man tax.
There is one of the 4 winners in this draw. He bought RM286*4 in ezbet 15 (4 bet).
4 winners bought RM286*4 in ezbet 15.
more winners the winner will get lesser prize.
I gave up on this lottery, very hard to win.
Good luck to all gamblers.

This post has been edited by Ah Ming 88: Mar 31 2022, 05:54 PM
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post Mar 28 2022, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Mar 28 2022, 10:46 AM)
What happens if a ez bet winner wins under System 9 and 4 wins System 15 yesterday ?
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Go check Sports toto malaysia facebook.
There is a post Q&A explaining Ezbet winnings.
Question 2 : why i can’t win full jpt with ezbet?
Answer : if buy ezbet 15, pay RM286 to win 1/35*jpt (2.7m), if there is only one winner.
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post Mar 31 2022, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Mar 31 2022, 05:39 AM)
Now Joey foreign syndicate shifted from Sabah Sarawak to Penang jor .... lol

His research van parked outside the shop ...

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Since the jackpot won, the ezbet winner will have share the pool money with other winners ....

97,751,643.90 ÷ (35+1) = 2,715,323.44

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If jackpot not won, the ezbet winner will receive ....

97,751,643.90 ÷ 35 = 2,792,904.11
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How to get the actual amount?
35+1?
1/35*jpt if one ezbet 15 win,
why add 1,
should share by how many winners, divide 2!

My calculation is like below.

Ezbet 13 RM286, 1 portion, there are 3 portions
prize= 1/12/3*1*97.7m=2.71m

Big Boss buy 1 ezbet 13, 1 system ticket. Won 95m.
Think yourself.

This post has been edited by Ah Ming 88: Mar 31 2022, 05:47 PM
Ah Ming 88
post Mar 31 2022, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Mar 31 2022, 06:25 PM)
Can't believe that the fella is still arguing over the jackpot calculation..

Calculate winning numbers probability even better lah.. Bring it up to Toto lah if they are wrong ..
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I like do calculations on the prize because i don’t know actually.
Too free i guess,
Research for the winning numbers looks impossible in this lottery.
Good bye.

This post has been edited by Ah Ming 88: Mar 31 2022, 07:45 PM

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